out the guardian article by bernardine evaristo which who is the current president of the royal society of literaturet, of course, she believes in free speech. course the royal speech. of course the royal society this principle, society defends this principle, but that they just don't want to get involved seem to be get involved or seem to be politically partisan. that seems to issue here. and of to be the issue here. and of course, when it comes salman course, when it comes to salman rushdie, we all saw what happened with horrific happened with that horrific knife new york at knife attack in new york at the event. as says, event. and as miranda says, first is you have first port of call is you have to stand up say, no, this is to stand up and say, no, this is not acceptable. i happen to have read satanic i've read the satanic verses. i've read the satanic verses. i've read most of salman rushdie's read the satanic verses. i've read rit's: of salman rushdie's read the satanic verses. i've read rit's ayf salman rushdie's read the satanic verses. i've read rit's a brilliant] rushdie's read the satanic

having an activist president , what do you think the president, what do you think the royal society literature royal society ofrature doesn't do enough defend free speech? >> yeah, this is a really interesting one. uh, the royal society of literature, there was a week in the times, a piece this week in the times, i believe it was, which talked about uh, about how a number of, uh, fellows the society fellows of the royal society of literature former literature and also former presidents were questioning whether is really whether the charity is really backing freedom of expression. uh and actually, marina warner, who's a former president, uh, actually said explicitly she they didn't want to put out a statement to the statement when it came to the attack salman rushdie because attack on salman rushdie because they want to cause they didn't want to cause offence. with the offence. similarly, with the internet on on kate clanchy internet pile on on kate clanchy the poet kate clanchy, who wrote a brilliant piece, by way, a brilliant piece, by the way, about her her book was about how her her book was accused of raci