people like allen becker, royce altman, the fellow that wrote the certification process for the federal government. it is pretty much concluded that the current systems are not appropriate. the question is where we go from here. this conversation seems to have been in the direction of talking about ballot design issues, and whether it is prudent to have an instant runoff rather than a follow-up runoff. i think those are interesting questions, and some of them are philosophical. my point today is to say i think we are good with the current ballot design. what we really need to do is focus on the election systems. it should be stated that the ranked joyce algorithms and software additions -- they create an extra muddling of the current systems that are already concluded by the review of the secretary of state to be inappropriate. we are a little bit ahead of ourselves, talking about ballot redesign. just to be also noted, the open source systems we advocate can handle ranked joyce voting. -- ranked choice of voting. we want the security aspects to be highlighted continually. that is why i