as a family therapist and executive coach roz zander has specialized in finding pathways to possibility. she is a master at opening doors inhallenging situations. when all roads seem to lead nowhere it is a skill anyone can learn and it is much needed in times of crises. welcome to kamp solutions. (upbeat music) - we're in a time when everything is different you know, there's a big cris. first of all, of course there was the fires and then there was social unst and it's very unsettling in society. what do you say to people who live in fear? - well, most people realize if they're living in fr, it isn't actually helping them. and 's a natural reaction. no, i'm t here in california in some very nice woods and a deer will co by and i want to make friends with that deer, but it's not going to make friends with me. 's gonna run like mad. and we are wired as aighting ecies and also a fleeing species. so that's the natural state of human beings. now, what i say to them is it's time in our history that we rewire our natural state that we learn not to react with fear. and how do you do that? well