we have the transit card, rtc card that provides low income discount. at this time it's not something that we've looked at in terms of parking. not sure there would be an easy way for us to implement that and also people who have access to a motor vehicle tend to i think a lower number of people that close to vehicles are low income. so it is something that i imagine that we'll hear more as the process goes along and something that we can look at. it's not something that the committee recommended at this point. >> okay. thank you. >> bob, i wanted to amplify on that. it wasn't an issue ignored or dropped. when that suggestion came to us, i started to realize that would be a very staff time burdensome issue because maybe this year you win the lottery, maybe and suddenly your income jumps that you might be eligible this year but because you win the lottery next year you are rolling in dough. maybe this year i lose the job in july and i have a problem and my income drops. maybe this year i'm not eligible. this year i might be. it has to be year to year rec

so for example, when real estate collapsed in 1989 to 1992 and we had the rtc resolution trust company, nobody wanted to buy real estate. it got down to the bottom and somebody brought us a potential investment which we could price anyway we want basically. and we picked a 16% return at the bottom of the cycle with no leverage. i didn't know anything about real estate but i said if we can create a 16% return borrowing no money and then we can borrow a little bit of money on top of it so we're getting like a 23-24% return. when we filled up this 20% vacant set of apartments, in effect that would give us a 45% return. then as the world got still better, the rents would go up and we'd make like 55%. and i didn't see a down side. and that was the start of our giant real estate business. and each one of the businesses we've gone into, there's always some point of inflection where even when you describe it to other people, they either don't believe it or they're so traumatized by the problems they're already dealing with they don't want to deal with it or people won't finance them because th

they sell arms to hezbollah through the rtc army, through syria, and they sell arms to them directly. dougie examples of all three of those in the chapter in the book they also train those guys according to some reports. about 100 commanders went back to north korea in 2007 after the war with the israeli defense forces and were trained by the recall on bureau in north korea. for those of you who don't know, the reid, bureau is the lead on -- one of the elite our's of the special operations forces. and they do construction of facilities for these guys. for example. they built nasa -- massive miles long underground facilities that made it very difficult for the israelis to get at them during the 2006 war. important to note that this goes on today under kim jong-un. why did they do this? is it of an ideology, you know, despising the united states or israel? welcome and certainly does not hurt that we are we are. these are highly profitable like to these that put cash into the coffers of the lead and support the military. that is what is really going on. so these are the same kinds of thi