there was this big plastic rubbermaid tote and of top of -- it's a little toolbox and there's a hacksawit and that's all that was going through my mind was, holy crap. >> reporter: 20 minutes later, gina excuses herself and is out the door. but she's laid the groundwork. and one week later, she's back. heart beating a little bit that time? >> yeah. yeah. >> reporter: what are you worried about? >> well, i was nervous for my safety, because i was going to try to get a little more in depth in conversation with him and engage him. >> reporter: this time she gets a warm welcome. >> he comes out, comes around, and as soon he saw me, he just lit up. he was grinning, i mean, genuinely happy to see me. >> reporter: then you know you're in. you're in. >> yeah, i knew. >> reporter: gina tells him she needs to take more photographs. but he has no clue she's got her audio recorder rolling too. you also hide your recorder in a very interesting place. >> i just come in and stick it right here in my bra, ready to go. you can't see it, you don't know it's there. i know it's there. >> reporter: they spe