that immediately led me to think rube goldberg. the term rube goldberg machine is named after a famous american artist who was known for designing cartoons that performed simple tasks in the most complicated way possible. >> getting from concept to reality takes more than six months, 25 people and many sleepless nights. >> it was trial and error. >> build an element, pray that it works. if it does, build the next element. and we had 133 elements. >> at first when i started, i was like, oh, this is fun, this is interesting. by the end of it, it was like pulling my hair out. i actually started to have nightmares about the machine. >> i think the photo booth might have been the most complicated element actually. it turned out to be a very complicated series of mouse traps and a very painful thing to set up as well. mouse traps are super sensitive. >> i think my favorite element of the machine is the little mario that jumps across the screen. who doesn't like mario? >> they have hundreds of synchronized moving parts and every one has t

so he has such a rube goldberg machine in his head in terms of this massive conspiracy to depopulate the united states, to literally kill americans that, you know, when you come to talk to him about guns or anything remotely within the political mainstream, he simply goes off his rocker. and i agree. i mean, this is very much the scary part of the militia world. it's not that people think the constitution is a great thing and ought to be defended, it's that they take these views to the very far out reaches to the point where they think anyone who does anything in terms of law enforcement or anything along those lines is part of some kind of fascist plot. >> let me bring in nick again. nick, there is a concerted effort going on now by some american politicians to actually get real action. you can sense it, that there is a movement here from president obama, joe biden, dianne feinstein and others, they really are determined to try to make a difference now. is it going to be successful? >> i fear that it is not going to be very successful. and if i can push back at one thing you said, i