ruckelshaus knew. and if we should name, the epa, the ruckelshaus building was the most honest public servants ever encountered. and i got to know them well. i did his oral histories for university of washington, washington state. ruckelshaus had the hard job. you guys end this. you guys know how brown versus topeka. it wasn't just about the legislation and separate but equal no good. now got to integrate the schools. what is? the whole civil rights movement. it's about making the people to brown you go to little rock in 57. are you complying going to the brown decision? you go to france elementary school and orleans with ruby bridges. are you complying king ruckelshaus is the burn telling polluting companies extraction, industries, chemical industries? we're busting you. the feds are busting you. you're not applying you're following epa standards or nepa or the clean act, which nixon signed in 1970 and soon to be clean water act of 1972. and so by the time nixon leaves, that was the end of a revolutio