so i think that would be a bit of an odd job for mayor rudy giuliani.s deep experience in homeland security. he understands how the intelligence agencies fit together from his time as mayor. it's a mixed picture. but i think the initial reaction is probably right, andrea. >> we already have controversial choices in the national security sector. let's talk about michael flynn. admired in his combat roles and as a defense intelligence analyst. also came into conflict, was removed as head of the intelligence agency. now in a nonconfirmable post. he's the national security adviser. >> he s. mike flynn worked for me in afghanistan. he was a spush tactical intelligence chief. he led the intelligence fight in afghanistan for us. before that he'd done similarly exceptionally good work intact call intelligence in iraq working for general mckristal. he's well known in the flag and general officer community. can he step up to the strategic level when he has made forays in that direction talking recently about islam as a political entity, not a religion. it's been

>> i'm biased about rudy giuliani. i happen to like him a lot. know him very well. i think careful what you wish for because you may get it. even if he is rudy and so many republican senators like him and he campaigned for them he will have to go through the scrutiny that anyone lobbying for a position would. he has a lot of foreign government and it will be an issue for democrats. and even some republicans like rand paul. >> we will focus on that later this hour. >>> and talk to fareed zakaria how the rest of the world sees donald trump. and later, a fourth day of stories about steve bannon. look at his relationship with donald trump and how bannon has managed to get so close to the president elect. when coughing keeps your family awake. breathe easier with vicks vaporub. soothing cough relief that starts working instantly. we catch flo, the progressive girl," at the supermarket buying cheese. scandal alert! flo likes dairy?! woman: busted! [ laughter ] right afterwards we caught her riding shotgun with a mystery man. oh, yeah! [ indistinct shouting ] is this your c

that was jeff sessions and rudy giuliani. mp has been rattled by disclosures. >> i heard that before that list was reduced to jeff sessions after giuliani went out saying i'm not taking ag position. i'll only take state. >> when you say he doesn't owe him anything, i will say in the last three months of the campaign no one worked harder publicly and internally for donald trump than rudy giuliani. he was in the headquarters, sleeves rolled up working hard. >> do you turn over a position the guy is ill equipped to handle to be loyal when it will cost you politically. >> worst thing you can do. >> you've done this before. give advice to donald trump. >> the worst thing you can do is to reward the people who were in your campaign with positions in government that they're not suited for. it's not helping them in the long run. it's certainly not helping you. >> you had to make a lot of tough choices in your career. >> tough choices. my cabinet when i became governor seven out of ten people i never met before until i got elected. >>

how would rudy giuliani do as america's top diplomat? >> i think we have no idea and that's the scary part. you know, we've had condoleezza rice and john kerry, people with very deep national security and foreign policy backgrounds who knew people all over the world. >> madeleine albright. >> madeleine albright. could not forget my partner this business, madeleine albright and also working for her as secretary of state, just people with incredible depth and rudy giuliani has had a very active business practice and legal practice, all kinds of conflicts of interests which would have to get resolved because he's worked for foreign governments which is actually unusual, actually, and he'd have to recuse himself and the office of ethics would have quite a bit to say of him moving forward. >> when you look back at henry kissinger, james baker, this was bob corker's foreign relations chair on "morning joe" this morning who was thought to be in the running for secretary of state. >> i think most people would have an interest. at the same time,

give youself some credit." >>> rudy giuliani, former new york mayor rudy giuliani's strong play to takea role within president-elect trump's cabinet could be in trouble. this is what we're hearing, a source familiar with transition talks is telling cnn that close trump confidante rudy giuliani may not be a lock for the position of secretary of state because of his previous business ties in places like qatar and the venezuelan government. that said while speaking to the "wall street journal," the former new york mayor dismissed talk of becoming trump's attorney general suggesting he prefers the secretary of state j job. with me now, rick wilson, a former strategist for rudy giuliani's 2000 senate campaign. you're the perfect voice on this. rick, good to see you. >> how are you, brooke? >> wonderful. my question for you is, you know, with your knowledge of rudy giuliani, does he have the chops to be secretary of state? >> i don't doubt rudy has the chops to be secretary of state but i think you're seeing a game being played out inside the nascent trump administration and you're seeing the

sources say former new york mayor and close trump confidant rudy giuliani is a leading candidate for the job. but others are pushing for former u.n. ambassador john bolton. >> john would be a very good choice. >> is there anybody better? >> maybe me. i don't know. >> reporter: giuliani is hardly keeping his ambitions hidden but his international business ties like doing business with qatar and lobbying citgo could complicate his confirmation. jeff sessions is already under consideration for a high profile position such as secretary of defense or attorney general. >> i won't be attorney general. i won't have to decide that one, thank god. i can escape that one. >> i should ask jeff sessions that question, should i? >> wouldn't be a bad idea. >> reporter: he spent 13 years in the u.s. army reserves and was the first senator to endorse trump for president. >> at this time in americans' history, we need to make america great again. >> reporter: another name pence is looking to add to consideration for defense secretary, arkansas senator and u.s. army combat veteran tom cotton. today trump

this is no new issue to rudy giuliani, you remember that when he ran for in the 2008, his connections through his consulting firm giuliani partners, questions were raised about the work he did for the government of qatar. so clearly all of this is being looked at as he's being vetted for a top cabinet position and given the fact that donald trump has talked about draining the swamp, ending this coziness between consultants and washington and also the criticism that he gave about the clinton foundation, these are going to be looked at very carefully. it doesn't necessarily mean it's a disqualification but it's something being talked about. >> duly noted. and sara murray, i defer to you. we saw pictures of vice president-elect pence in trump tower. what are they working through, how are discussions going? >> part of the disorganization you've been seeing is the fact that the transition was being headed by chris christie, now it's being headed by mike pence so mike pence and donald trump are finally getting together to go over these cabinet names and that may be why you see shifts from s

but the blind dismissal of rudy giuliani as somebody who is unqualified to serve doesn't strike me as right because a lot of the people doing the dismissing have 1/10 the governing record that rude bring giuliani does. >> there you have it. steve schmidt doing new jersey proud. >>> up next, newly discovered audio from 2011 painting an ugly picture of donald trump's chief strategist. >> you know, they wouldn't be a bunch of dykes that came from the seven sisters school up in new england. and, you know, that drives the left insane and that's why they hate these women. >> you heard that right. yup, that was steve bannon. a democratic senator leading the call for donald trump to fire mr. bannon joins me next. the decision to ride on and save money. he decided to save money by switching his motorcycle insurance to geico. there's no shame in saving money. ride on, ride proud. geico motorcycle, great rates for great rides. asmy family tree,ing i discovered a woman named marianne gaspard... it was her french name. then she came to louisiana as a slave. i became curious where in africa she was

let's talk about rudy giuliani as secretary of state. you have said you are supportive of rudy giuliani for secretary of state. there's also another name out there, john bolton, for secretary of state. you are supportive of him. someone who is not, senator rand paul. he has called bolton totally unfit. he has called giuliani, said giuliani will have a stiff uphill climb. what do you say to rand paul? >> you can put the republicans in a very small car who is going to follow rand paul's advice when it comes to national security. he is my friend, he's a libertarian, he's an outlier. overwhelming majority of republican senators have the utmost respect for rudy giuliani. he led the nation and new york through 9/11. he's a citizen of the world, eminently qualified. john bolton was u.n. ambassador under president bush. he has been my friend for 20 years. he's a reformer. he would turn the state department upside down and make it work better. he knows where the bodies are buried in the u.n. and we see the world very similar. i think overwhelming

he's in type of controversies are not old for rudy giuliani. when he ran for president in 2008, his firm giuliani partners came under scrutiny for some of its advising and contacts it took from the government of qatar. certainly all of these international dealings that rudy giuliani, the former mayor of new york, has done since he left office are going to be raising a lot of eyebrows and certainly a concern as they move forward for the confirmation of a top u.s. diplomat, wolf. >> all right. sure there's a lot of vetting going on now. thank you very much. >>> reaction to this and more. u.s. senator rand paul is joining us. he's the republican senator from kentucky. a member of the foreign reses committee and homeland security committee. senator, thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me, wolf. >> what's your reaction to what was just reported about rudy giuliani? former new york mayor. do you think he would be a good secretary of state? >> worrisome, ties to foreign governments. concern for many of us about hillary clinton and he t

you can see on the other side of the coin rudy giuliani lobbying publicly for the position. a lot more public airing of grievances than we would normally expect to see in a transition but it is a high-stakes decision, unique situation because donald trump's own party was lined up against him. the pool of contenders is a little smaller than another republican president would have right now. leland: the phone briefing with sean spicer and the kelly and conway tweet about mitt romney, she talked about how it would be possible to have a secretary state who didn't travel the world as much and stayed closer like henry kissinger did, their response to that tweet was, quote, a lot of intrigue is overblown at this stage of picking a cabinet and president-elect trump meeting with many candidates who share his vision was one has to wonder who shares his vision within his camp, you brought up rudy giuliani, his public lobby, we have never seen an example of that from the wall street journal or. i have traveled in the last 13 years as much as hillary did in the years she was secretary of

donald trump and rudy giuliani. find any compatibility between these candidates for secretary of state? >> obviously as you pointed out, candidate romney had a different view of rush why. when i work on the transition, people are not chosen based on a litmus test and what the views it was a much more personal relationship with the president. and then we duked it out in the administration. i suspect it will be a similar process here. that is enormously powerful. 16 agencies. >> well, if he loses the musical chairs game at the state department, he has been very loyal to president-elect trump. they have to find a place for him and that process happens in transitions all the time. i would say and the dni, they have a different job in the inner agency process. they are not supposed to be making policy. it's a different kind of job. they are making policy or the head of the dni, that might be a better place for them. if president-elect trump decides he is not the right fit. >> it has been a career military career diplomat

why wouldn't rudy giuliani want that? joining me right now communications director for democracy of america. and ceo of american majority ned ryan, and good to see all you guys. we'll get to that in a second. i think rudy giuliani has the background, the qualifications to really perform in that capacity and we need someone with the background to actually really be able to do the best possible job in homeland security but first let me ask you about, ned ryan, this mitt romney thing, general petraeus. do you think there is a chance the general can get it? everybody is so up in arms about mitt romney that it become as very difficult task for him to be able to give it to romney at this point? >> i think so. first of all, kellyanne appearing on tv was no mistake. it is not by chance it was on tv. she had clearance at some level to go on to express her feelings what is taking place. she made very valid point. there is significant revolt on the grassroots with mitt romney as secretary of state. romney was going out of his way to

>> reporter: wolf, we're laning that several of the leaders of his transition team, including rudy giuliani, michael flynn, newt gingrich, all of them likely to take senior national security roles in a trump administration. they were with him throughout the campaign, but it might surprise that late comers, even some of the never-trumpers aren't entirely off the list, as well. trump adviser and former new york city mayor rudy giuliani now helping to lead trump's transition team. >> donald has been my friend for 28 years. all my work on behalf of him has been out of great loyalty and friendship to him. i can see already how he's going to be a great president, and i'm glad i could play a small role. >> reporter: before the election, dozens of gop national security officials and experts declared in two separate letters that they would never work for a trump administration. but sources tell cnn many of those so-called never-trumpers

rudy giuliani is a loyalist and he's someone is a lightning run. romney was one of the most critical people of donald trump during his campaign and one of the top that came out and called him unfit for the presidency. so the fact that kellyanne conway honing in on that word, loyalty is interesting as president-elect trump gets closer to making this critical decision. you have a lot of republica republicans -- they think romney is a future caantasthoice. he's of course the national security adviser and a hard liner who has a number of controversial positions. i anticipate we are going to get the answers in the coming days possibly as early as tomorrow. i don't think we are going to learn today. today is about family and the president-elect trump celebrating thanksgiving with those around him. >> kristen, donald trump was tweeting as well, making sure we think of him as hard at work this evening, what's he been telling us. >> he's putting out this image where he's not just eating turkey. >> this is typically something that presidents do during the ho

the trump transition team may be looking to rudy giuliani or mitt romney to fill the spot. >>> we are the diverse america who are alarmed and anxious. >> that is the speech that got the president-elect fired up. the cast of "hamilton" was addressing vice president-ect mike pence who was in the audience. and he had a very different reaction. >>> and president obama had a >> good morning, anne-marie. >> reporter: president-elect donald trump assessed several more contenders for those posts including chris christie, rudy giuliani, and former critic mitt romney along with retired marine corps general james mattis who has emerged as the leading candidate for defense secretary. president-elect donald trump capped another day of high profile meetings in new jersey and more cabinet appointments to come. >> we have made a couple of deals but we will let you know job-seekers who visited mr. jersey governor chris christie. >> a very talented man. a great guy. >> reporter: the former new york mayor rudy giuliani was under consideration for secretary of state. the president-elect is also consideri

with people involved. >> are you doubting that there is one way conversation and the idea that rudy giuliani is only listening and not talking about. >> i have known rudy for many, many years. i knew him extremely well when he was a federal prosecutor. i don't think he ever had a one way conversation. the suggestion being made that there is a group in several publications today that there is a group of agencies here in new york feel strongly that hillary clinton deserves more scrutiny. does that match with what you are hear sng. >> i call it a fifth column. you know, i don't think it is pervasive everywhere but i think there is certainly some agents who have been pushing this agenda. now, that's not something that depends on my reporting. look at the reporting that's been done and the times and in the wall street journal or whatever. stories indicated that the agencies in the new york office who were looking at the weiner's e-mails were the ones that went down and convinced comey to essentially issue it. >> are things at a boiling point as rudy giuliani said it. >> i think theyer at a boilin

i don't mind rudy giuliani particularly diplomatic or knowledgeable about world affairs. i think that would be a big mistake. >> what are the rules for a president when it comes to potential conflicts and the business interest and getting top national security clearance for his children who will potentially be running his business? >> don, the rules are that there are no rules right now for the president or vice president. let me just read you a little bit about where we stand right now and what is required of the president. the u.s. conflict of interest prohibits officials from holding assets that would inflict with their additional duties, but congress enabled the president and vice president, are exempt from those rules and are exempt from earning income from their businesses as they hold office. they are exempt again from what other federal officials are required to abide by. havinged that, donald trumps that his children are going to run the businesses. we'll see what exactly happens, but of course it's going to be an incredible amount of scrutiny over any decision d

rudy giuliani is critical to be the attorney general. the most important agency in this government is clean up that justice department and because this president is going to come under all kinds of attacks. lou: you know, you keep saying the most important and i'm sure you're right but all i can think of, i look at that government right now. there is such a bureaucratic morass beneath the face we've seen for almost eight years, get rid of those faces, that is the top of it, and the next three or four levels, there's still a tremendous, a tremendous mess to clean up across nearly all of the departments of the federal government. >> here's what i did in the reagan days. they asked me what kind of notice should we give the political appointees, i said give them a week. when i was a ford appointee, carter gave us two weeks, i want to show i'm tougher to be here. we wrote a letter, have you one week to keep them. and get them out. if they are there, they are there, they function, settle in and want to make sure your people aren't captured by

primarily from rudy giuliani.re they considering other names? are we down to these two. >> these are pretty much the final two. i think there was general john kelly whose name was floated earlier in the week. he may be under consideration for other national security diplomatic or defense posts. what the incoming trump administration is really trying to do here is broaden the number of people in these senior posts who have military combat experience because it's their thinking that if you have people who fought in wars making decisions about whether or not to commit the united states to more wars, that that's a better thing. that makes people on the civilian side of the military very nervous because there's a long tradition of having civilian control of the military in our country. going back to the secretary of state issue, you know, rudy you could tell from that sound bite he's still in it. he wants to make sure he does everything he can to persuade donald trump to pick him. that's why he was on his best behavior

donald trump had rudy giuliani in his column, he believes in the way donald trump views the world, believes in his vision. mitt romney clearly does not. i want to put myself firmly in the rudy column. >> matt lewis, people are wondering is donald trump messing with these guys? i mean, seriously, rjs udy giuliani, no one spoke out more strongly for donald trump during the campaign. if he rewards loyalty like people say he does, why isn't it rudy? no one spoke out more forcefully against him during the campaign than mitt romney. is this donald trump stringing him along so he can ultimately reject him. >> that's one theory, he brings people to sort of bow to him at trump tower, toying with them. i hope that's not what's happening. i really think that peter and kayleigh both were hitting on interesting and plausible theory, a microcosm of a really interesting idea which is to say, should a president surround himself with people who have a consistent and coherent sort of world view and vision in terms of foreign policy and national security? or should a president have a team of rivals, people wh

the campaign is about screwing your enemies. >> somebody is putting it out there that rudy giuliani -- >> somebody inside trump land is stabbing rudy in the back. campaign is about screwing your enemies. transition is about screwing your friends. rudy is being screwed by his friends right now. >> come to washington. >> how do you see this transition? >> beyond the ethical questions, the question is, first of all, donald trump, maybe his biggest foreign policy attack on hillary clinton was her support for the iraq war and his supposed opposition to the iraq war. here's a guy who ran against lobbyists and now lobbyists in the transition. ran against the iraq war, brought a fervent supporter of the iraq war to be secretary of state. so does raise the question whether donald trump believes in any of this stuff. the second question is what qualifies rudy giuliani to be secretary of state? okay, attorney general maybe. he has been in law enforcement. he has never been a diplomat. he was a mayor. yes, he did rally the country and the city to some degree after 9/11. that's not foreign policy.

i don't think that rudy giuliani is a pick to the right but other candidates might. normally there would be an obligation to reach out and bind the nation's wounds. we're not seeing that. we are seeing it tonally but not substantively. >> thank you very much. i a appreciate it. >>> up next, donald trump's election energizing the so-called alt-right movement. >> we just won the lottery. we just stole america back from the establishment. afoot and light-hearted i take to the open road. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me. the mistay connected.elps us the microsoft cloud offers infinite scalability. the microsoft cloud helps our customers get up and running, anywhere in the planet. wherever there's a phone, you've got a bank, and we could never do that before. the cloud gave us a single platform to reach across our entire organization. it helps us communicate better. we use the microsoft cloud's advanced analytics tools to

we are hearing names like rudy giuliani as well.ow might the tone influence the decision making of a donald trump for transition team? >> i don't know if they are going to be hearing it or not, actually. maybe if there's enough protest outside his properties, it will make an impact on the kids. this is difficult because there's no experience any can rely on. you have to write about government in transition. you don't want to pretent this is a normal situation where you have a candidate who has said and done the things he did in his campaign. i don't think we can forget it. he won fair and square, but you cannot forget about what he said with his attacks on minorities and other groups in the united states. >> even if he says we will win, win, win. even if he says we will be unified, i will get us there? >> another quick point, by this point if president-elect barack obama had a press conference in chicago to show how far behind they are, there isn't, if there is a presidential inaugural committee, i don't know it. if there is a whole

and that's jeff sessions and rudy giuliani. atie pointed out, trump has no guiding ideology or known principles that he applies to foreign policy. but what he does have is this overriding sense that loyalty matters. rudy was loyal to him. rudy went on tv and said really nice things about him -- >> and absurd things. remember what he said over and over, hillary's sick. look at her. and when i would challenge him on that, he would so -- >> that goes a long way with trump. when trump was in the fox hole and the campaign looked like it was going to lose by 20 points, rudy stuck by him. and you cannot overstate how much that means to donald trump. >> not only that, but in the primary, he actually paved the way. he and chris christie were the one who is gave him credibility as somebody that should be taken seriously, that could win a republican primary. and that's what i think rudy giuliani really brought to trump. >> do you think he gigged up the new york offices of the fbi to get them all excited? i always wonder. you're ready to sp

clearance is likely but has not happened yet. >>> critics have taken to rudy giuliani claiming extensiverunner for secretary of state, particularly serious conflicts of interest. his former law firm, and another company, giuliani security, they've done work for government across latin america and middle east. rand paul calls the ties to foreign governments worrisome. >>> let's talk trump transition with cnn's josh rogin and column for "the washington post." good morning. let's talk about why the rudy giuliani is a problem in his mind. >> well, i think it is worrisome, some of the ties to foreign governments, because that was a big complaint with many of us with hillary clinton and her ties and money she received from foreign governments. whether or not you have divided loyalty obviously is very important. >> but not insurmountable if there were to be -- >> that's right, all of these guys after leaving government make money. the question is where do they draw line. rudy giuliani doesn't seem to have drawn any line at all. he consulted for the government of venezuela. qatar, and for shady

rudy giuliani was his hatchet man throughout the "access hollywood" tape. he took a lot of flak for him. it's the only job rudy wants is the problem. >> rudy is not the president. rudy tried to run for president and he sucked. he got destroyed on the campaign trail. his staff couldn't wake him up before 9:00 in the morning. who is rudy giuliani to tell donald trump what he's not going to do? >> as i said yesterday, i suspect his approach to this was not appealing to donald trump going publicly and put him in a corner to give him the job. >> and revealing that he's been talked about these things. you don't turn down -- what is going on with him? >> also, if he gets selected, just like the steve bannon pick, and that's trump. trump's guy. that's up to trump. that's a different conversation. but when you're talking about secretary of state, you bring some of the same problems to that position that hillary clinton brought as far as judgment and did he trade in on his experiences to make a lot of money. >> my reporting is the problem is no one who wants to stop i

julie: rudy giuliani, newt gingrich, the yes men.he people that won't stand up to say you're not right about that around on every bad inclination i have. meghan: if i were a democrat i would hold my criticism warranted. advice to all liberals faux hysteria on line and everywhere will get you knowwer. why you lost the election because everybody is hysterical about every little thing. wait until he warrants something that does outrage. julie: steve bannon warrants outrage. dagen: he listened to kellyanne conway, why he won? because of a lady. it was on, it was off, now it is on again. president-elect trump meeting with the editors of "the new york times." this on heels of big powwow with network news executives around reporters. what it all mines when it comes to the press and our incoming president. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts. great tasting, he

rudy giuliani was a good mayor of new york. i discussed foreign policy with him over the years and i found him kind of congenial. i agreed with him most of the time on foreign policy. he's a serious guy. i'm not sure he would be my first choice but i think it's a reasonable selection. >> do you think that there's a problem, a confirmation problem in that he would have to recuse himself from countries and leaders with whom he's had contracts? >> i think he would sell his part of the firm or step away from the firm, i should think. that's judiciarily been down. i assume rudy giuliani would do that. >> finally had mike flynn for national security adviser. >> he was respected by many people when he was head of the defense intelligence agency in government. he's been pretty extreme since then and done some things, did some things pro putin i didn't like. he'll be national security and dealing with donald trump and powerful. a lot for me depends who the secretary of state is, who the secretary of defense is, who the head of cia is. t

rudy giuliani former prosecutor with ties to law enforcement, now admitted he had knowledge of the fbi director's announcement last week. >> all i heard were former fbi agents telling me that there's a revolution going on inside the fbi and it's now at a boiling point. i had expected this for the last -- honestly, i thought it was going to be about three or four weeks ago. i did nothing to get it out. i had no role in it. did i hear about it? you're darn right i heard about it. i can't even repeat the language that i heard from the former fbi -- >> an interview on "hardball" a few moments ago giuliani denied having any information about the fbi. >> i had no idea that jim comey was going to do what he was going to do the day that he did it nor did i ever think he was going to do it. what i did know, which is quite true, for about four months, is that the fbi was very, very upset about the way jim comey had handled the case. but i heard that from former fbi agents, not from current fbi agents. >> you have no inside information, as of this moment from the fbi? >> correct. >> two democrati

i think some of the criticisms of rudy giuliani are unfounded. he's someone who certainly proved his loyalty both to president-elect trump and to the party. and has a vast array of foreign policy knowledge. but that's it. the three other candidates are, good, too. donald trump is in a position of taking and weighing the opinions of a lot of people and doing what he's supposed to be doing, despite the belief he wouldn't be acting this way before he was elected. >> why do you think, joe, it's gotten so public, so public? >>, yeah i mean, certainly i think some people shouldn't be, you know, airing their dirty laundry on television. that might be a prudent thing to do. donald trump is a transparent person. the doors to trump tower are open for all to see. when you people people like david petraeus walking through the front door, you can't keep that secret. the transition team has been very open about who they're seeking for different spots. frankly, i think it's sort of good we're having a public debate about some of the candidates themselves. >> hi

so supposedly between mitt romney and rudy giuliani. are really upset that mr. trump is even thinking of mitt romney because of the awful things that mitt romney said about mr. trump in the run-up to the election. so, what do you think might happen? >> well it's certainly very interesting and it represents an inherent tension that is going to be a theme of donald trump's presidency throughout. and that is he has to balance between this very angry base that elected him as the republican establishment, who he has to work with on capitol hill, and really get along with about he represents both wings of the party and so you have a lot of establish republicans who really do want to see mitt romney in there. they feel he would be a better representative for the republican party and for america abroad and question whether or not rudy giuliani can get confirmed by the senate because of his previous ties lobbying for all kinds of countries that don't have great human rights records, don't have great records with the united states, and so there i

nicole: former new york city mayor rudy giuliani emerges as a candidate to be the next secretary of stateump says there is no competition for the job. giuliani said defeating a fifth would be an early focus of the trump administration. >> i says short-term is our greatest danger. and not because of iraq and syria, because isis did something up qaeda never did. isis was able to spread hope around the world. nicole: maybelle conservative radio show host laura ingram is considered or the white house press secretary edition. she was on fox news tucker carlson on my site which debuted last night. the sand. >> you know, i'm honored to be considered for that job another that job and other jobs. we'll see what happens. i met the plane if our country in a span i can do something to advance the trump agenda which is stuff i've written about for 15 years, trade and immigration renewing america, i would obviously have to seriously consider that. nicole: trump officials say john spicer and trump transition spokesman john miller are also being considered for press secretary. nicole: president-elect don

let's talk about rudy giuliani. has been openly asking, pleading for on some level, campaigning for the secretary of state position. for the better part of a week, the position trump transition officials were confirming he had the leading role toward getting. when asked today, donald trump, the president-elect, about whether or not rudy giuliani was in line for the secretary of state. he nodded and said, also some other things, as well. a hedge there and good reason why. we talked about it all day yesterday, poppy. mitt romney coming in under active consideration for secretary of state. still a lot of questions about whether that's a real position, real possibility. no question at all, the president-elect is intrigued by the possibility. that may mean rudy giuliani might not be in position for that, poppy. >> phil, all right, so let's play a little game here, if you will. that is, let's assume that it is between giuliani and mitt romney for secretary of state. you've also got to think, you know, what message would d

you two know rudy giuliani extremely well. he's someone who was solid behind donald trump, who president-elect trump really came to rely on. during the years, even when giuliani was mayor of new york, i think trump had a lot of respect for how he didn't put up with, you know, much guff. i think he liked that. you're seeing people around giuliani who are pushing for an announcement of some kind. >> so now there's talk that rudy giuliani wants secretary of state or that he will become secretary of state, but the other name in contention is former ambassador john bolt bannon. so rudy giuliani was at an event last night and asked about this. let me play this for you. >> john would be a very good choice. >> is there anybody better? >> maybe me, i don't know. >> okay. he's being coy, sort of. what do you think is going to happen? >> look, i think that trump values loyalty above all else. rudy giuliani has been a scrapper for him, a street fighter for him. if he then wants to turn out to be the chief diplomat, it might make you scrat

maybe the biggest name out there is for a job, rudy giuliani. was interesting we talked about this with peter alexander and newt some did not want to stand up there. gingrich said that means giuliani can get the top job and top appointment in the cabinet if he wants it. >> that seemed to be the case. that is the guiding principal in this transition and the idea of loyalty tow donald trump being repaid with paid appointments. rudy giuliani is another fiery, sometimes impettuous figure that in some people's mind make him not the best choice for secretary of state. it's a question of rewarding loyalty. >> with loyalty, understandably it will be a test for any president, but given the lack of support for the campaign for republican republicans. >> it's all relative. who else is on that list? there are other choices that could arguably set off alarm bells much more in terms of the base of voter who is elected him who is really shocking to a lot of people. john bolton is one of the original neocons who supported the war in iraq and talked about a very

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i think rudy giuliani would have trouble getting confirmed. if you spent the last, essentially, four years prosecuting hillary clinton and her husband of all the ways they made money and what they did, rudy giuliani is no better. for republicans to confirm rudy giuliani after he went out insulting latin america governments and european governments and making money with all the people he is working with -- >> i think it's worth mentioning petraeus here. that's unbelievable. he was out on the campaign trail talk about how petraeus -- how hillary clinton should have gotten the petraeus treatment. which is basically an admission that petraeus misused classified information. mishandled classified information. now you're going to put him in one of the primo spots. >> trump loves generals. part of this is the tone you pick. right now people on the national security team are more hard-liners. it would be hard to see mitt romney if he's on the team how does he sit down with the national security adviser general michael flynn when he says things like th

from rudy giuliani making a public play for secretary of sate. he, too, may have been a candidate for attorney general in the sense that he had prior to be new york city mayor. the laws something he knows. that's not something he's not interested in and wants to be secretary of state. another person missing from capitol hill who's expected to play some kind of role in the trump administration is jeff sessions who's been an ally of trump from the early moments. she was involved in his immigration plan. there were different posts where his name gets associated with from department of defense to homeland security or attorney general, both of those positions would have direct responsibility of implementing immigration policies. he's been very closely involved in the transition working to assemble the name. jeff sessions is one of those names are also being talked about. >> and senator bob corker. >> yes, he of course is the chairman of the senate form relations committee. there was a brief moment of time where he was interviewed and went to visit tru

with rudy giuliani, there was basically nobody as you know closer to the president-elect than rudy giulianim hearing is that save rudy idea is it's not that he is in deep trouble or something it's that his international business dealings, since he has left his mayor make a lot of money. entitled, free country. complicated. the kind of clind clients he ha. >> no more complicated than the clinton foundation. >> after both rudy giuliani and president-elect trump spent a lot of time beating up on the clinton foundation. you don't want that to boomerang on you. >> how would -- we are talking about a senate confirmation that needs 51 senators. the republicans have the 51 senators. >> very close. >> and maybe 52. depending on louisiana. >> you would expect that there would be some democrats that would support rudy giuliani because before this campaign, especially after 9/11 very non-script. >> you go, listen, you didn't have a problem with the clinton foundation. why do you have a problem with rudy giuliani? >> you could certainly try. that's why the key word was save. it wasn't under the bus. we