department, i came up here to see a little center, the colin powell center, that had been endowed by the rudin family, and i wanted tohat they were doing. they'd been, you know-- and the answer was that they hadn't been doing much. it was more of a mini think tank. and i sat in theonference room here at ccny, and about a dozen students came in, yed i saw passion in their i saw them hungry for a better life. i knew that most of them came from families where nobody had yet graduated from college, and this was the first generation of that family. en it got back to me, i said, "my god, this is me. this is me, 50 years ago. i got to be a part of this." david: i know you're very proud of the school, as you should be. you look back on your extraordinary life in public service, did your parents live to see your success? very proud of that, but my father was failing, i could see that, and then he died about a year and a hal mlater, so he didn't smake general, but mother was there when i was promoted to general, and she stood there in this line of people, very proud. she was only about this tall, 5'3" o