so i think that would be a bit of an odd job for mayor rudy giuliani.s deep experience in homeland security. he understands how the intelligence agencies fit together from his time as mayor. it's a mixed picture. but i think the initial reaction is probably right, andrea. >> we already have controversial choices in the national security sector. let's talk about michael flynn. admired in his combat roles and as a defense intelligence analyst. also came into conflict, was removed as head of the intelligence agency. now in a nonconfirmable post. he's the national security adviser. >> he s. mike flynn worked for me in afghanistan. he was a spush tactical intelligence chief. he led the intelligence fight in afghanistan for us. before that he'd done similarly exceptionally good work intact call intelligence in iraq working for general mckristal. he's well known in the flag and general officer community. can he step up to the strategic level when he has made forays in that direction talking recently about islam as a political entity, not a religion. it's been

is rudy guiliani going to be dni? >> possibly. >> what has rudy told you?sunday and -- >> you are missing my point. >> it's not up to the mayor. >> the president-elect will make the decision. as it should be. and donald trump is not going to be pursuing an investigation against hillary clinton, and do you think he will focus more on the agenda. >> when the president tells you he doesn't wish to pursue the charges, and it sends a strong message. i think hillary clinton still has to face the fact that a majority of americans don't find her to be honest or trustworthy, but if trump can help her heal, perhaps that's a good thing. he's thinking of many different things as he prepares to become the president of the united states, and things that sound like the campaign are not among them. >> and tell us what is going on in the press? traditionally presidents somen in the press. >> we buried the hatchet in the backs of most of the tv anchors, and what was the purpose of the meeting and did it go off -- >> i have a different view of the meeting having sat there and

rudy was loyal to him.y went on tv and said really nice things about him -- >> and absurd things. remember what he said over and over, hillary's sick. look at her. and when i would challenge him on that, he would so -- >> that goes a long way with trump. when trump was in the fox hole and the campaign looked like it was going to lose by 20 points, rudy stuck by him. and you cannot overstate how much that means to donald trump. >> not only that, but in the primary, he actually paved the way. he and chris christie were the one who is gave him credibility as somebody that should be taken seriously, that could win a republican primary. and that's what i think rudy giuliani really brought to trump. >> do you think he gigged up the new york offices of the fbi to get them all excited? i always wonder. you're ready to speculate here. do you think he sort of got the fbi jazzed up to go back into the e-mail situation? >> i think that he certainly didn't do anything to dissuade their enthusiasm from getting, you know,

giuliani crooked rudy now or terror taking money from former terrorist groups rudy giuliani. >> rudye's always out in front of the president-elect embarrassing him out in front talking about everything he's been offered. >> this is a political nightmare for republicans if he had to go through those hearings. >> there's a very strong chance he would not be confirmed. talking to people on capitol hill last week. that was a sense. if trump puts him up as secretary of state nominee would have the most difficult confirmation battle of anybody on trump's roster right now. >> it would be worse than jeff sessions, right? >> far worse than jeff sessions. at least jeff sessions gets the customary senatorial courtesy. rudy giuliani doesn't get that. >> rudy would be a blood bath on the hill. >> no question. anything that donald would give rudy? donald does feel obligation to rudy because rudy was out there more than anything else. >> ed, he shouldn't tell him. rudy will go around telling everyone because he's out front. rudy out front. >> anything that rudy would be interested in short of secre

not a direct comparison because rudy giuliani was a private citizen, but the same kind of ties that rudy giuliani found problematic when he labelled clinton foundation and secretary of state clinton as engaging in a play pay to play scheme. >> it is a racketeering enterprise. >> turning the state department for a play for pay operation. >> reporter: he rose to national prominence on september 11th, 2001 and became known as america's mayor but the fame failed to catapult him to a higher political office, despite running for president in 2008. what it did do is make rudy giuliani rich. he traveled the globe,ing making big dollar speeches, gaining security consulting contracts with foreign governments and foreign entities including some countries that aren't always on the best of terms with the u.s. a list of clients and countries. his law firm represented the subsidiary of the oil company. and it adds up to a tremendous amount of making money overseas but his political experience is limited to an american mayor. >> he was a good mayor of new york city but has no foreign policy experience.

and i'm following rudy malano down treacherous ground. police have been waiting for rudy to inspect the scene. >> we have a floater. lifeguard personnel brought him ashore. >> but rudy isn't a detective. he's an investigator with the l.a. county coroner, the first person allowed to examine the body lying in the water a few feet away. what happens to us if we die suddenly or violently? more likely than not, we'll be picked up by a coroner. everybody on this floor is waiting for people to die. >> you never know what the next phone call is going to be. we never know what is going to happen. >> it took me a year to get access, but for the next ten days, i'm embedding with the l.a. county coroner, the busiest under one roof in the nation and while i'll see things that shock me. oh, my gosh, i'm a little speechless. for the men and women that work here, dealing with the dead is business as usual. >> death is going to happen and seeing all the bodies, it's just part of my job. ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> i've lived in l.a. for most of my life, and driven by this

rudy? rudy, it up here.nother great man who has been really a friend to me, but i got --know him as a competitor dr. ben carson. where is ben? by the way, mike huckabee is here someplace. he is fantastic. sarah,nd his family, thank you very much. general mike flynn. where is mike? [applause] donald trump: we have over 200 generals and admirals that had endorsed our campaign. they are special people, and it is really an honor. we have 22 medal of honor recipients. a very special person that -- believe me, i would read reports that i was not getting along with him, but i never had a bad second with him. he is an unbelievable star. you about rights. i know it, i know it. look at all these people over here. rights is a superstar. but i told him that they cannot call him a superstar unless we win. if secretariat came in second, it would not have had that date, beautiful, wrong -- bronze bust at the track. that he is a star. he is the hardest working guy. here.get up boy, oh boy.\ go ahead. say something. >> ladie

give youself some credit." >>> rudy giuliani, former new york mayor rudy giuliani's strong play to takea role within president-elect trump's cabinet could be in trouble. this is what we're hearing, a source familiar with transition talks is telling cnn that close trump confidante rudy giuliani may not be a lock for the position of secretary of state because of his previous business ties in places like qatar and the venezuelan government. that said while speaking to the "wall street journal," the former new york mayor dismissed talk of becoming trump's attorney general suggesting he prefers the secretary of state j job. with me now, rick wilson, a former strategist for rudy giuliani's 2000 senate campaign. you're the perfect voice on this. rick, good to see you. >> how are you, brooke? >> wonderful. my question for you is, you know, with your knowledge of rudy giuliani, does he have the chops to be secretary of state? >> i don't doubt rudy has the chops to be secretary of state but i think you're seeing a game being played out inside the nascent trump administration and you're seeing the

so if rudy giuliani wants a job like second, it could be his. at the same time, you'll siemens and other people who have been through this process in washington before say now to the president-elect is we really need to dig through their background. we can't just take loyalty as the number one qualification. we have to make sure this person can get confirmed and in most administrations you have one or more people who get nominated and have to pull back because of something that comes up during the vetting process. >> howard, we know transitions are messy even though we know president obama has talked highly about going from bush 43 to his administration. that said, when you hear words like "knife fight," "game of thrones" in terms of decision making and lack thereof, confusing buffoonery, does that worry you? >> not especially. this is the toing and froeing of a transition. transitions are by definition challenging and difficult and i think everybody is sitting back and enjoying the kind of palace intrigue that's going on right now but fundament

here's what i think folks may not appreciate in rudy. i worked for rudy giuliani for speech writer and worked on policy. so i know him well. in a different stage of my career and we disagreed about this election pretty intensely. but i think what people fail to appreciate in the wake of 9/11 and the interim period between then and now he has been focused on foreign affairs and traveling around the world, not only for his business but the natural evolution of mayor has been a focus on global issues and that translates to his issue, not simply the top job. >> there's been a, since 9/11 and now, especially in the recent months, a different rudy giuliani has appeared. many people don't know who that rudy giuliani is. is that right? >> i think that's fair. one of the things we saw -- we have seen a difference in donald trump in the last week than we saw campaigning. it was clear there was a formula for campaigning that was incendiary, really controversial rhetoric and suddenly you see a man, for the last week and a half or so, as taking on a

is that rudy? rudy, get up here.ther great man who has been really a friend to me but you, i got to know him as a competitor because he was one of the folks negotiating to go against those democrats, dr. ben carson. where is ben? [cheering] donald trump: and by the way, mike huckabee is here someplace and he is fantastic. mike and family, sarah, thank you. general mike flynn, where is mike? donald trump: and general kellogg. we have over 200 generals and admirals who have endorsed our campaign. we have 22 congressional medal of honor recipients, just tremendous people. a very special person who believed me, and there were reports i was not getting along with him. i never had a bad second with him. he is an unbelievable star. that's right. let me tell you about reince. i have said this. reince, and i know it, all of these people know it, i said reince is a superstar. but i said, they cannot call you a superstar unless we win. like secretariat. if secretariat came in second, secretariat would not have that beautiful br

how would rudy giuliani do as america's top diplomat? >> i think we have no idea and that's the scary part. you know, we've had condoleezza rice and john kerry, people with very deep national security and foreign policy backgrounds who knew people all over the world. >> madeleine albright. >> madeleine albright. could not forget my partner this business, madeleine albright and also working for her as secretary of state, just people with incredible depth and rudy giuliani has had a very active business practice and legal practice, all kinds of conflicts of interests which would have to get resolved because he's worked for foreign governments which is actually unusual, actually, and he'd have to recuse himself and the office of ethics would have quite a bit to say of him moving forward. >> when you look back at henry kissinger, james baker, this was bob corker's foreign relations chair on "morning joe" this morning who was thought to be in the running for secretary of state. >> i think most people would have an interest. at the same time,

rudy didn't endorse -- rudy didn't endorse him at the beginning. rudy didn't endorse him anywhere.mber, there was an interview where he named all of thlican president. jeb, marco, he named kasich, he named all of these people. didn't even name donald trump. now he's running around because he shows up after trump's already won it. in the new york primary, when it was already over, and now he's running around saying i won't be attorney general. i'm not going to be attorney general, which he said to him. i'm not going to be attorney general. but i'll be secretary of state. something that he's temperamentally not qualified to be. and he's not qualified to be it based on any experience or training. or any context. donald trump, as michael said, owes nobody nothing. he owes the republican party nothing, the democratic party nothing, he owes donors nothing. he owes nobody nothing. >> absolutely. >> so when rudy giuliani and other people say, you must accept me because i -- no. he owes nobody anything. >> i feel like the john bolton speculation is also very donor-driven. >> it is donor dri

rudy giuliani was an early backer of donald trump. and part of any transition is rewarding those people who have been loyal, whether it's -- >> that's right. >> good or not. >> there is nothing unusual here about what's going on. donald trump is in the moment of putting his stamp on the government of the united states. it's going to be a trump government. that's the way it works. the old saying from the andrew jackson days goes, to the winner goes the spoils. this is how it works. >> what do you make of kushner, the stories that he's at center of a lot of this infighting, that some people describe things as a knife fight, clearly a purging of chris christie. >> somebody is putting that out too. i never met jared kushner. i hate going after family. i don't. kids are impressive. i'm sure the son-in-law is impressive. they're not children but adult children who are now assuming real power and influence. i suppose that makes him a target. i'm not ready to cast stones at him. this is clearly coming from inside trump land. people are attack

julie: rudy giuliani, newt gingrich, the yes men.he people that won't stand up to say you're not right about that around on every bad inclination i have. meghan: if i were a democrat i would hold my criticism warranted. advice to all liberals faux hysteria on line and everywhere will get you knowwer. why you lost the election because everybody is hysterical about every little thing. wait until he warrants something that does outrage. julie: steve bannon warrants outrage. dagen: he listened to kellyanne conway, why he won? because of a lady. it was on, it was off, now it is on again. president-elect trump meeting with the editors of "the new york times." this on heels of big powwow with network news executives around reporters. what it all mines when it comes to the press and our incoming president. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts. great tasting, he

it's the only job rudy wants is the problem. >> rudy is not the president. rudy tried to run for president and he sucked. he got destroyed on the campaign trail. his staff couldn't wake him up before 9:00 in the morning. who is rudy giuliani to tell donald trump what he's not going to do? >> as i said yesterday, i suspect his approach to this was not appealing to donald trump going publicly and put him in a corner to give him the job. >> and revealing that he's been talked about these things. you don't turn down -- what is going on with him? >> also, if he gets selected, just like the steve bannon pick, and that's trump. trump's guy. that's up to trump. that's a different conversation. but when you're talking about secretary of state, you bring some of the same problems to that position that hillary clinton brought as far as judgment and did he trade in on his experiences to make a lot of money. >> my reporting is the problem is no one who wants to stop it being bolton or giuliani has been able to come up with a name that has put in trump's head to say, okay

rudy giuliani, former mayor of new york city. who have had diametrically opposed views of donald trump during this campaign. let's take a walk down memory lane here. >> donald trump is a phony. a fraud. >> i am sick and tired of the defamation of donald trump. >> donald trump lacks the temperament to be president. >> he has the temperament to win. >> mr. trump's bombast is already alarming our allies. >> he is a man who's not afraid to say radical islamic terrorism. >> let isis take out assad, he said. this recklessness is recklessness in the extreme. >> donald trump has the intellect, the stamina and the strength to confront our enemies. >> now donald trump tells us that he is very, very smart. i'm afraid that when it comes to foreign policy, he is very, very not smart. >> kayleigh mcenany, you have one guy essentially saying that donald trump is the best thing ever. then you have another guy pretty clearly saying that donald trump may be one of the worst things ever, at least one of the worst things running. these are two guys

>> i want rudy guliani, i think rudy busted his tail for him. >> thank you for your answers. >> vote in our poll, question is do you believe country will ever awaken to subversive threat posed by american lift. not a dress rehearsal they mean business, cast your vote, follow me on twitter, like he on facebook. on wall street stocks prices closing higher, dow up 24, s&p up 3, nascar up 11. -- nasdaq up 11, volume on big board picking up, 3.7 billion shares, banks reports record profits in third quarter. crude oil plunged down 4% over doubts that opec of cut product at the meeting tomorrow. >> dollar is so track for best month against japanese yen since 2009 after a half percent against yen today. listen to my reports 3 times a day, coast-to-coast on salem radio network. >> up next, donald trump said that the economy is his priority. >> i asked my transition people to develop a list of executive actions we can take on day one, to restore our laws and bring back our jobs. it's about time. lou: about time, he is ahead of schedule. he is not even in office yet, but the economy is already

that doesn't mean that rudy giuliani would not be confirmed.does not mean he would not make it through the process. it could just set yourself up for a bloody fight. and maybe that's not the first thing you want to do when you take the white house. >> i heard rudy giuliani, when his name came up, or senator rand paul spoke with me earlier today, made it clear he's going to vote against it. potentially he could try to block that nomination. >> you know, look, other people might do the same on the democratic side. look, somebody like -- i mean, that's a perfect example of no matter who you put in there, no matter who is in the white house, you are going to have senators like rand paul on the republican side and maybe even a bernie sanders on the democratic side who used to do this from time to time, against president obama's nominees, will continue to do so. >>> stay with us. don't go to far away. check out the first-ever book from cnn politics called "unprecedented, the election that changed everything." in stores starting december 6th. preorder

you can see on the other side of the coin rudy giuliani lobbying publicly for the position. a lot more public airing of grievances than we would normally expect to see in a transition but it is a high-stakes decision, unique situation because donald trump's own party was lined up against him. the pool of contenders is a little smaller than another republican president would have right now. leland: the phone briefing with sean spicer and the kelly and conway tweet about mitt romney, she talked about how it would be possible to have a secretary state who didn't travel the world as much and stayed closer like henry kissinger did, their response to that tweet was, quote, a lot of intrigue is overblown at this stage of picking a cabinet and president-elect trump meeting with many candidates who share his vision was one has to wonder who shares his vision within his camp, you brought up rudy giuliani, his public lobby, we have never seen an example of that from the wall street journal or. i have traveled in the last 13 years as much as hillary did in the years she was secretary of

let's talk about rudy giuliani as secretary of state. you have said you are supportive of rudy giuliani for secretary of state. there's also another name out there, john bolton, for secretary of state. you are supportive of him. someone who is not, senator rand paul. he has called bolton totally unfit. he has called giuliani, said giuliani will have a stiff uphill climb. what do you say to rand paul? >> you can put the republicans in a very small car who is going to follow rand paul's advice when it comes to national security. he is my friend, he's a libertarian, he's an outlier. overwhelming majority of republican senators have the utmost respect for rudy giuliani. he led the nation and new york through 9/11. he's a citizen of the world, eminently qualified. john bolton was u.n. ambassador under president bush. he has been my friend for 20 years. he's a reformer. he would turn the state department upside down and make it work better. he knows where the bodies are buried in the u.n. and we see the world very similar. i think overwhelming

you know rudy giuliani well. is he qualified to be secretary of state? >> well, he's not a born diplomat. he's a very smart, very strategic, very effective public figure who's kind of a blunt instrument. i mean, this is a man who threw yasir arafat out of lincoln center. he's not cut from the james baker or george schultz world. he's a very surprising choice for a role that calls for diplomacy. >> but is he? because the way you describe him is sort of what donald trump's platform was and those supporters who said shake up washington, drain the swamp, we want something else. >> right. right. you can see why donald trump would be attracted to that personality and also there is an element of political pay back here for giuliani's support in the campaign. you know, donald trump and giuliani have very similar personalities, right? they're very against political correctness, they're not afraid to take very strong kind of antagonistic action towards their enemies. you know, one interesting thing to watch if giuliani gets this job is how the two of them get -- y

he's in type of controversies are not old for rudy giuliani.r when he ran for president in 2008, his firm giuliani partners came under scrutiny for some of its advising and contacts it took from the government of qatar. certainly all of these international dealings that rudy giuliani, the former mayor of new york, has done since he left office are going to be raising a lot of eyebrows and certainly a concern as they move forward for the confirmation of a top u.s. diplomat, wolf. >> all right. sure there's a lot of vetting going on now. thank you very much. >>> reaction to this and more. u.s. senator rand paul is joining us. he's the republican senator from kentucky. a member of the foreign reses committee and homeland security committee. senator, thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me, wolf. >> what's your reaction to what was just reported about rudy giuliani? former new york mayor. do you think he would be a good secretary of state? >> worrisome, ties to foreign governments. concern for many of us about hillary clinton and he

he was rips rudy over his foreign collection to chavez, the whole slew of them. this is not draining the swamp. this is expanding the swamp. >> i'm not sure city oil is going to get him in trouble though. >> i don't think so. the point i would take from this it seems nothing donald trump is going to do as he puts together his cabinet and team is going to resemble anything we have seen by way of the traditional markers of people who hold high positions. why should we be surprised? nothing he did in the campaign was by the book and nothing he is going to do in this round will be by the book either. >> we should think of the bar scene in star wars. >> i mean they had a thing going there. they seem to be joining themselves. >> and hopefully someone is still on the list. it would be profound and brilliant. thank you. he wouldn't be a hawk. he might be good for us. >>> hillary clinton's lead in the popular vote is growing. it is fuelling some to call for an end. even donald trump is tweeting about it. could it ever change? this is "hardball," the place for politics. th

giulia- rudy giuliani is a candidate for secretary of state. we're hearing about heturmoil o the transition people. what's the latest? >> reporter: there's been a lot of it. i have to say one week after an election, especially a tumultuous e lerklection it's nl that surprising. a number of thing have happened today. the headline on all of it is the second high profile republican establishment figure my rodgers, former house intelligence committee chairman is out. he was seen as reassuring figure to many republicans, especially on the issues of national security and was thought on the short list for cia director. he's gone. of course he was hired by chris christie, who, as well, was demoted. so the question is why, what's going on with the transition. the story they certainly want to put out is this is all about a blinding of the campaign staff, that traveled around the country with donald trump and the transition staff that was put in place to figure out what was going to happen in the event he won, but there is also a question as to whether al

giuliani primarily from rudy giuliani.re they considering other names? are we down to these two. >> these are pretty much the final two. i think there was general john kelly whose name was floated earlier in the week. he may be under consideration for other national security diplomatic or defense posts. what the incoming trump administration is really trying to do here is broaden the number of people in these senior posts who have military combat experience because it's their thinking that if you have people who fought in wars making decisions about whether or not to commit the united states to more wars, that that's a better thing. that makes people on the civilian side of the military very nervous because there's a long tradition of having civilian control of the military in our country. going back to the secretary of state issue, you know, rudy you could tell from that sound bite he's still in it. he wants to make sure he does everything he can to persuade donald trump to pick him. that's why he was on his best behavior

clients of ru rudy's law firm. and these fbi agents, assuming they believe that clinton is getting a political pass, they don't say by the way, i'm being paid to have this conversation with you, i'll going to go bill it at my law firm. >> really quickly, vaveed, a lot of people point out the fbi is incredibly aggressive when it comes to trying to pin something on the clintons, even when it comes from a book or devilling into the political but they doesn't see to be so aggressive in running down some of these allegations of foreign hacking, russian hacking, attacks on the delegates and the dnc. what do you make of that? >> it's a very important point. i want to clarify that. there's what we see and there's what we don't see. you're absolutely right. the investigative arm, which tend to fall under the criminal auspices of the fbi is very vocal and above the waterline. the counterintelligence area, which is where this would fall, one area is investigation and the other is operations. it tends to be the fact that the f

donald trump and rudy giuliani. find any compatibility between these candidates for secretary of state? >> obviously as you pointed out, candidate romney had a different view of rush why. when i work on the transition, people are not chosen based on a litmus test and what the views it was a much more personal relationship with the president. and then we duked it out in the administration. i suspect it will be a similar process here. that is enormously powerful. 16 agencies. >> well, if he loses the musical chairs game at the state department, he has been very loyal to president-elect trump. they have to find a place for him and that process happens in transitions all the time. i would say and the dni, they have a different job in the inner agency process. they are not supposed to be making policy. it's a different kind of job. they are making policy or the head of the dni, that might be a better place for them. if president-elect trump decides he is not the right fit. >> it has been a career military career diplomat

>> you will see. >> rudy giuliani , you are lucky because we got to go. i am out of time. >> we are not going to go down, and certainly not stop fighting. that was two days before the letter and earlier today, on fox news, rudy giuliani was asked if he knew ahead of time that the fbi was looking into this newly related e-mails. >> and you looked at martha and look out, something is coming down and certainly it did. a lot what did you know and a lot of networks are pointing it out. >> all i heard were former fbi agent telling me that there is a revolution going on inside the fbi. it is now at the boiling point. >> from more, i want to bring in wayne barrett, author of the untold story of rudy giuliani of " 9/11" and of the great author of trump. wayne, thank you for being with us, i think you are by phone, right? >> yes, i am. >> particularly here in new york and retired agents. what's your latest reporting? >> well, he's been, his law firm has been counciled seled for ma many years of 13,000 members active and retired. he was honored twice in the last two

why wouldn't rudy giuliani want that? joining me right now communications director for democracy of america. and ceo of american majority ned ryan, and good to see all you guys. we'll get to that in a second. i think rudy giuliani has the background, the qualifications to really perform in that capacity and we need someone with the background to actually really be able to do the best possible job in homeland security but first let me ask you about, ned ryan, this mitt romney thing, general petraeus. do you think there is a chance the general can get it? everybody is so up in arms about mitt romney that it become as very difficult task for him to be able to give it to romney at this point? >> i think so. first of all, kellyanne appearing on tv was no mistake. it is not by chance it was on tv. she had clearance at some level to go on to express her feelings what is taking place. she made very valid point. there is significant revolt on the grassroots with mitt romney as secretary of state. romney was going out of his way to

is that rudy? rudy got up here.er great man who has been really a friend to me, but i will tell you, i got to know him as a competitor because he was one of the folks negotiating to go against those democrats, dr. ben carson. where is ben/ -- where is ben? huckabee isay, mike here someplace and he is fantastic. mike and family,

. >> is rudy guiliani's name mentioned? >> they are still high on this list, as best we understand it, more than anything, just the fact that these two men are coming toke, whether it's a reassuring signal with democrats and moderates, this will send a big message. >> mitt romney. >> can you image season. >> to new jersey. to be a fly on the wall. thank you very much, peter. thank you, katy tur. joining me now, representative marsha black burn of tennessee, a part of the president-elect transition team. thank you very much, thanks for being with us. he promised to shake things up. he's shaken things up. jeff sexes is something more predictable. so maybe you can say they're both good loyalists. also mike pompeiio. how about that? >> i'll tell you, andrea, i loved the fact that he is taking a non-traditional and unexpected approach. i also appreciate the fact that mr. trump and congressman pence, governor pence, are looking first at the national security issues and they're bringing to bear answers and direction and movement o

is that rudy? rudy got up here. another great man who has been really a friend to me, but i will tell you, i got to know him as a competitor because he was one of the folks negotiating to go against those democrats, dr. ben carson. where is ben/ -- where is ben? huckabee isay, mike here someplace and he is fantastic. mike and family, sarah, thank you. general mike flynn. where is mike? and general kellogg. we have over 200 generals and admirals that have endorsed our campaign and they are special people and it is really an honor. we have 22 congressional medal of honor recipients. -- he is an unbelievable star. that's right. let me tell you about rights. -- -- reince. a superstar. but i said, they cannot call you a superstar unless we win. like secretariat. if secretariat came in second, he would not have that beautiful bronze bust at the track at belmont. ince isill tell you, re really a star. where is he? get over here. oh boy.oy it is about time you did this, reince. my god. come on. face up. gentlemen, the next

the trump transition team may be looking to rudy giuliani or mitt romney to fill the spot. >>> we are the diverse america who are alarmed and anxious. >> that is the speech that got the president-elect fired up. the cast of "hamilton" was addressing vice president-ect mike pence who was in the audience. and he had a very different reaction. >>> and president obama had a >> good morning, anne-marie. >> reporter: president-elect donald trump assessed several more contenders for those posts including chris christie, rudy giuliani, and former critic mitt romney along with retired marine corps general james mattis who has emerged as the leading candidate for defense secretary. president-elect donald trump capped another day of high profile meetings in new jersey and more cabinet appointments to come. >> we have made a couple of deals but we will let you know job-seekers who visited mr. jersey governor chris christie. >> a very talented man. a great guy. >> reporter: the former new york mayor rudy giuliani was under consideration for secretary of state. the president-elect is also consideri

with rudy giuliani, there was basically nobody as you know closer to the president-elect than rudy giulianim hearing is that save rudy idea is it's not that he is in deep trouble or something it's that his international business dealings, since he has left his mayor make a lot of money. entitled, free country. complicated. the kind of clind clients he ha. >> no more complicated than the clinton foundation. >> after both rudy giuliani and president-elect trump spent a lot of time beating up on the clinton foundation. you don't want that to boomerang on you. >> how would -- we are talking about a senate confirmation that needs 51 senators. the republicans have the 51 senators. >> very close. >> and maybe 52. depending on louisiana. >> you would expect that there would be some democrats that would support rudy giuliani because before this campaign, especially after 9/11 very non-script. >> you go, listen, you didn't have a problem with the clinton foundation. why do you have a problem with rudy giuliani? >> you could certainly try. that's why the key word was save. it wasn't under the bus. we

>> reporter: wolf, we're laning that several of the leaders of his transition team, including rudy giuliani, michael flynn, newt gingrich, all of them likely to take senior national security roles in a trump administration. they were with him throughout the campaign, but it might surprise that late comers, even some of the never-trumpers aren't entirely off the list, as well. trump adviser and former new york city mayor rudy giuliani now helping to lead trump's transition team. >> donald has been my friend for 28 years. all my work on behalf of him has been out of great loyalty and friendship to him. i can see already how he's going to be a great president, and i'm glad i could play a small role. >> reporter: before the election, dozens of gop national security officials and experts declared in two separate letters that they would never work for a trump administration. but sources tell cnn many of those so-called never-trumpers

rudy out front. he's out there again. the former mayor of new york touting his credentials to "the wall street journal" saying i probably have traveled as much as hillary in the last 13 years. >> stop. did he really do this? >> china three times. once with bill clinton by the way. i don't know what that means. is that good or bad? you can't say i don't know the world. >> he started singing the third verse of "never been to spain." >> other breaking news that we have to report, after rudy went way out front -- >> i got to ask this question. i know we have some breaking news coming up here. we'll get to that in a second. jon meachem, this is breathtaking. it's unbecoming to say the very least. you're a presidential historian. has this ever happened in the history of at least in our lifetime where somebody for a position as serious as secretary of state worked so aggressively to box in the president-elect? >> not publicly. you know, as we all know, privately people do everything they possibly can. no. m

rudy giuliani is a loyalist and he's someone is a lightning run. romney was one of the most critical people of donald trump during his campaign and one of the top that came out and called him unfit for the presidency. so the fact that kellyanne conway honing in on that word, loyalty is interesting as president-elect trump gets closer to making this critical decision. you have a lot of republica republicans -- they think romney is a future caantasthoice. he's of course the national security adviser and a hard liner who has a number of controversial positions. i anticipate we are going to get the answers in the coming days possibly as early as tomorrow. i don't think we are going to learn today. today is about family and the president-elect trump celebrating thanksgiving with those around him. >> kristen, donald trump was tweeting as well, making sure we think of him as hard at work this evening, what's he been telling us. >> he's putting out this image where he's not just eating turkey. >> this is typically something that presidents do during the ho

. >> plus a stunning admission from rudy. >> did i hear about it? you're darn right i heard about it. >> tonight the question, did people inside the fbi tip off the trump campaign about the comey letter weeks in advance? all that plus what we know about where the polls stand right now and jay-z and hillary live in this hour from ohio when "all in" starts right now. >> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. on this final friday of the campaign, four days to election day, the presidential race is nearly as close as it has ever been. tonight hillary clinton's campaigning in cleveland with an assist from jay-z and maybe possibly according to rumors the queen b herself. beyonce. that's sherrod brown on stage warming things up. clinton's third stop of the day. trying to turn out young people and african-americans who don't appear to be turning out at least quite at the 2012 levels according to polls and early voting. those two groups have been targeted by republican efforts to restrict or repress voting founded by donald trump's claims of voter frau

but so is former new york mayor rudy guiliani, an outspoken trump supporter. there is strong resistance from loyalists. sources say they spoke over thanksgiving and romney is still very much in the running. while retired gems are also being considered for the job along with senator bob corker. a law enforcement official says the secret service may take over a floor at trump tower. it could add up to a million-and-a-half dollars a year in the building owned by the president-elect. police protection there already costing new york city a million dollars per day. and the new report suggests a russian propaganda campaign built around a tore represent of fake news stories aimed as flushing the u.s. election. researchers found they exploid ploited u.s. technology. i'll be speaking with republican chris collins and we have full coverage of the day's top stories. we will start with the trump transition. the president-elect makes a couple key appointments. there is a feud over one of the biggest cabinet posts. what are you learning, ryan? >> well, as you mentioned the t

one day it's rudy, one day it's romney. he's trying to frame this out in the reality tv version he does without making an assessment of what we need to do in terms of having somebody in that role who would be a serious substantive international player. >> joeshgs how do you respond to "the apprentice," "survivor" comparison. >> i don't think he's making light of the situation. he's got four people he's weighing for this job, all of whom are tremendously qualified. i think some of the criticisms of rudy giuliani are unfounded. he's someone who certainly proved his loyalty both to president-elect trump and to the party. and has a vast array of foreign policy knowledge. but that's it. the three other candidates are, good, too. donald trump is in a position of taking and weighing the opinions of a lot of people and doing what he's supposed to be doing, despite the belief he wouldn't be acting this way before he was elected. >> why do you think, joe, it's gotten so public, so public? >>, yeah i mean, certainly i think some peopl

rudy giuliani is critical to be the attorney general. the most important agency in this government is clean up that justice department and because this president is going to come under all kinds of attacks. lou: you know, you keep saying the most important and i'm sure you're right but all i can think of, i look at that government right now. there is such a bureaucratic morass beneath the face we've seen for almost eight years, get rid of those faces, that is the top of it, and the next three or four levels, there's still a tremendous, a tremendous mess to clean up across nearly all of the departments of the federal government. >> here's what i did in the reagan days. they asked me what kind of notice should we give the political appointees, i said give them a week. when i was a ford appointee, carter gave us two weeks, i want to show i'm tougher to be here. we wrote a letter, have you one week to keep them. and get them out. if they are there, they are there, they function, settle in and want to make sure your people aren't captured by

we are hearing names like rudy giuliani as well.ow might the tone influence the decision making of a donald trump for transition team? >> i don't know if they are going to be hearing it or not, actually. maybe if there's enough protest outside his properties, it will make an impact on the kids. this is difficult because there's no experience any can rely on. you have to write about government in transition. you don't want to pretent this is a normal situation where you have a candidate who has said and done the things he did in his campaign. i don't think we can forget it. he won fair and square, but you cannot forget about what he said with his attacks on minorities and other groups in the united states. >> even if he says we will win, win, win. even if he says we will be unified, i will get us there? >> another quick point, by this point if president-elect barack obama had a press conference in chicago to show how far behind they are, there isn't, if there is a presidential inaugural committee, i don't know it. if there is a whole

he traveled with us and he went rudy never changes. where is rudy? where is he? rudy. governor chris christie, folks, was unbelievable. thank you, chris. the first man, first senator, first major, major politician, let me tell you he is highly respected in washington because he is as smart as you get, a great man. another great man, tough competitor. he was not easy. he was not easy. who is that? is that the mayor that showed up? is that rudy? another great man who has been really a friend to me, but i will tell you, i got to know him as a competitor, because he was one of the folks that was negotiating to go against those democrats. dr. ben carson. where is ben? where is ben? and by the way, mike huckabee is here some place, he is fantastic. mike and his family, sarah. thank you very much. general mike flynn. where is mike? and general kellogg. we have over 200 generals and admirals that have endorsed our campaign. and they're special people. it is really an honor the we have 22 congressional medal of honor recipients. just tremendous people.