rudy knows that.n here is that people like rudy giuliani are emboldened by the fact they think they have teflon on them in the trump administration with an attorney general like barr that they can do what they want and even though it might cause scrutiny in another administration, they sort of feel free to do whatever suits their purpose. >> so, michael, from your reporting, let me just quote rudy giuliani again. we're not meddling in an election. we're meddling in an investigation and he says it will help his client very much. his client being the president. joe biden is part of the story. this is the context here. joe biden is at the head of the democratic polls. he could be the opponent for president trump. rudy giuliani says there's questions about biden's efforts to remove a ukraine prosecutor who years earlier was investigating a ukraine natural gas company connected to biden's son. it sounds complicated but they think there's smelly there or opposition research that they could ask the foreign g

do you think what rudy giuliani is setting a bad press incident?> i'm not going to get into what a private citizen does. >> you should. he's talking about the guy you're working for. >> he's also acting in his ca passity as a private citizen, not on behalf of our campaign. go back to 2016. hillary clinton and the dnc was hiring third parties to go out and work with foreign operatives. >> you think that's the same as asking governments to get involved and -- >> that's another thing we're trying to figure out is was there any influence from the ukrainian government in the 2016 campaign as well? >> but i see what you're doing here, but are you equating -- i guess my question is how do you put this on the same level as what happened in 2016? does this not strike you as different? a guest earlier made the point that you have a former campaign manager, paul manafort, sitting in prison. >> not for anything that was -- >> not for anything related to the campaign yet, with this question of foreign interference in the election. can you sit here and say that

we heard that rudy giuliani is heading to ukraine to meddle in two foreign investigations. he'll reportedly meet with the president elect to urge him to pursue inquiries that allies of the white house contend could yield new information about two matters dealing with mr. trump. one is the involvement of former vice president joe biden's son in a gas company owned by a ukrainian oligarch. giuliani tells the time, quote, we're not meddling in an election, we're meddling in an investigation, which we have a right to do. there's nothing illegal about it. somebody could say it's improper and this isn't foreign policy, i'm asking them to do an investigation that they're doing already and that other people are telling them to stop. and i'm going to give them reasons why they shouldn't stop it because that information will be very, very helpful to my client and may turn out to be helpful to my government. so the next time someone asks you how bad things are here in our politics, you can tell them they're so bad that the current president publicly depends on foreign governments to p

this is classic rudy giuliani of late, i will say.t the old rudy giuliani, but it is such a shape and a stain frankly on him and his character >> let me give you another -- if i could just -- >> hurry up. quick point. >> this is also important because you have to communicate to the american people that the entire world tries to influence the united states. the united states has the same amount of power or more than the roman republic at the height of the roman republic's influence and later empire. the whole world -- allies, enemies of the united states want influence in the united states and there are all kinds of ties that exist in washington, d.c. among politicians, family and friends. so why not expand the discussion from this obsession on russia to bringing up legitimate questions? >> just remember what you asked for. as we get into the campaign, remember you said this was okay. jennifer, niger, thank you for this on a friday night. if you're watching at home and said, god, it's like they just switched sides, all of the sudden on

this is classic rudy giuliani of late. i will say. it's not the old rudy giuliani.uch a shame and stain on him and his character. >> another reason -- >> hurry up. >> this is also important because you have to communicate to the american people that the entire world tries to influence the united states. the united states has the same amount of power or more than the roman republic at the height of the influence and empire. the whole world allies, enemies of the united states want influence in the united states. and there are all kind of ties that are in d.c. why not expand the obsession to bring up some questions. >> remember what you ask for. as we get into the campaign. remember you said this was okay. thank you for doing this on a friday night. if you're watching at home, and you said it's like they just switched sides. one is saying it's great to pursue this stuff. and saying there's nothing there. didn't that just happen in reverse? yes, it did. we'll track it down and keep the facts straight. and keep it on course. now, i urge you stay with me tonight. here's

. >>> and rudy giuliani's travel plans causing a 2020 stir. the trip president trump's personal lawyer is taking that's raising eyebrows and might make joe biden nervous. >>> welcome to "the lead." i'm brianna keilar in for jake tapper. spy versus spy. as president trump continues to downplay and dismiss the threat of russian election interference, secretary of state and former cia director mike pompeo is preparing to meet with vladimir putin, the mastermind of russia's 2016 disinformation campaign. pompeo will meet face-to-face with the russian president in sochi next week to discuss a range of, quote, bilateral and multilateral challenges, according to the state department. the question, will he break with president trump and directly demand that putin stop interfering in u.s. elections? heightening tensions, democrats are vowing to hold former white house counsel don mcgahn in contempt if he defies a subpoena to testify on capitol hill. as cnn's pamela brown reports, it's just the latest salvo in the oversight battle between democrats and t

we frame this as rudy giuliani as a direct agent of donald trump.his is the trump administration and the campaign asking for foreign assistance. again, to investigate a former white house vice president. >> the top democrats are reacting today. here is judiciary chairman nadler and chairman schiff. >> i haven't read the details, but my reaction is we have come to a very sorry state when it's considered okay for an american politician never mind the attorney for the president to go and seek foreign intervention in american politics. >> it's just appalling and his defense that he's not seeking a foreign government's help in the election just an investigation. yes, it's an investigation designed to affect one of the canadas they fear -- candidates they fear the most, biden. >> ashley parker, there's almost an exhaustion that comes across in the two responses. you know, we just got through a 2 year long investigation into conduct that at least is recognizable in this. this willingness, this openness, to aid political aid in the domestic political campai

rudy doesn't have to go anywhere from here.e could go and sit on his couch and not go to ukraine, not go to russia. everyone's heard it on television. he achieved -- what rudy did today was the equivalent of, if it's what you say, i love it. the difference is -- >> yeah. >> and the difference between next year and three years ago is that we are dealing with an incumbent. we are dealing with an incumbent that can do what the republican party and the right wing did ten times over, whereas they give our candidates health problems. they give our candidates investigations. they give our candidates baggage. now he's going to have the full force of government which he has proven that he is more than willing to abuse for his own political purposes, and he is going to do it, and rudy just said, have at it. i'm going to go have a beer. i don't need to go to the ukraine or meddle in person. he has already meddled. rudy giuliani today has already committed a crime against the united states. >> felipe reines, thank you very much. >> thank y

how does it make sense for rudy giuliani to advertise this? >> there are people in the white house who wish rudy giuliani would stop making comments like that ones he's making there to the "new york times." they do not think it is helpful. people inside the justice department and the white house think they are responding properly to the russia investigation and the outcome of the mueller report, especially as it relates to the attorney general. they do not find it ever helpful typically based on people we have spoken to inside the west wing that when rudy giuliani makes stunning comments saying he's seeking help from other governments to discredit some of the investigations or prop up the president, that's not something the white house wants to hear from the president's outside attorney. there is consternation inside the west wing about what rudy giuliani does, especially things like this. this is something they don't want him to do or say publicly on the record to the "new york times" >> this has to do with a story that broke in the "new york

this is biden's response. >> rudy giuliani. it's hard for me to comment on rudy giuliani.ause my irish may come up. it is a personal attack. i expect that from rudy giuliani and the president. it's not been one ounce of evidence that my son interfered and i got involved in anything other than doing the job i was supposed to do. i'm proud of him. i think it's the way these guys play. >> what sparked his decision to speak out now? >> well the fact he's taking questions from reporters, something he's been more comfortable doing more of late. it's interesting in terms of his relationship between joe biden and rudy giuliani, i can't help but remember the 2008 primaries when joe biden was last a candidate. remember he shown through in the debate performances. one of those famous moments when asked a question about rudy giuliani who was then a candidate for president on the republican side and remember his famous response. the only thing we hear from rudy giuliani is a noun, a verb and 9/11. you get there's a bit of personal animosity between rudy giuliani and the vice president.

moments ago rudy giuliani said he will not be traveling to ukraine after all. the "new york times" first reported that giuliani was planning to push that country's new president to move forward with investigations that could be useful to his client, the president. one is the origin of the special counsel's investigation, the other is the involvement of former vice president joseph biden with an oligarch. paul, let me start with you, last night around this time we were digesting the news that rudy giuliani said he was going to ukraine. and he said i'm not going there to meddle in an election, but i'm going there to meddle in an investigation. he used those words. he said meddle in an investigation that might be useful to my client. that is the president of the united states, donald trump. now 24 hours later, there's been considerable criticism of that. today he says he's not going. let me ask you the bottom-line legal question, were there legal concerns that were raised by what giuliani said 24 hours ago? >> meddling in an investigation would be a crime if he di

now, rudy is doing the same thing. frankly, rudy is just because he's another one of the president's crazy lawyers who lost his mind, he is clearly thinking he is speaking on behalf of the united states. when trump has been running around for 24 hours saying john kerry should be imprisoned for violating the logan act because he no longer represents the united states. i want to know and congress should want to know and compel rudy to come in and tell them what instructions has he been given? if he is doing this, it's a problem. you got people in china right now and north korea in and iran who are hearing this and they are at their keyboards saying that we can do whatever we want. this is another abuse of power and my fear is that the democratic party will not do anything about it. they will put all our eggs in the basket of election day here and the day after, we will be like it's not fair. he had help from the ukraine. yeah. we are seeing it happen. we watched it happen in 2016 and did nothing about it. we are on the v

. >> rudy giuliani is opening his play book for all to see. he is encouraging ukraine to get involved in issues that help is quiet and friends, the president of the united states and calling for an investigation that will hurt joe biden. rudy giuliani is headed to ukraine with two key missions in mind, he wants to investigate if the democratic national committee and hillary clinton may have worked with ukrainians to reveal damaging information about paul manafort with hopes it would help clinton with the white house bid. the second giuliani objective involves getting ukraine's president elect to investigate joe biden's son hunter's involvement in an energy committee, something biden joked about last year. >> if a prosecutor is not fired you are not getting the money. they put in place someone who was solid at the time. >> he is referring to the chief prosecutor in ukraine who he wanted fired. >> reporter: peter schweitzer says biden was spreading to withdraw loan guarantees from the united states if they didn't drop the probe. >> that prosecut

plus the uproar over his personal lawyer, rudy fiscgiuli and his visit to ukraine. new polls show the president's approval ratings on the rise. the 11th hour on a friday night starts right now. >>> good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. i'm in for brian williams who will be back on monday night. day 841 of the trump administration and there's new reporting tonight from the wall street which broke this story and from the "new york times" on what appears to be the president's effort to persuade his formal white house counsel to declare that the president did not commit obstruction of justice. president trump sought to have former white house counsel don mcgahn declare he didn't consider the president's directive that he seek robert mueller's dismissal to be obstruction of justice. but mr. mcgahn rebuffed the request. "the times" report, white house officials asked at least twice in the past month for mcgahn to say publicly that he never believed the president obstructed justice. mr. mcgahn declined. his reluctance angered mr. trump by

. >>> this morning rudy giuliani abandoned travels to return to kiev.ian investigation on robert mueller's investigation and the other on the involvement of former vp joe biden's son on an oligarch. >> i'm not going to go and walk into in many ways a enemy of the united states. i will just step back and watch it unfold. >> let's bring back abigail tracy from "vanity fair." he's following this story. how did this come about? >> i think the key is we've seen this ukraine area bubbling up the last couple of months. rudy giuliani chief among them but other allies of the president and individuals on different networks and realities, fox news, have been putting this era of huntser biden, joe biden possibly abusing his authority as vice president or all of this sort of big narrative around then, and this other narrative around the origins of the mueller investigation and clintons and paul manafort. i think we've seen this bubbling up. and you see rudy giuliani amping up this measure and you saw he was go to take this trip to ukraine to speak to the attorney ge

president trump's lead outside attorney, rudy giuliani, is making a startling admission, that he plans to turn to ukraine's incoming president in an effort to dig up dirt not just on the special counsel's investigation into russian meddling but also on joe biden's son's hunter's ties to the eastern european country. giuliani first confirmed his plans to "the new york times," saying somebody could say it's improper and this isn't foreign policy. i'm asking them to do an investigation that they're doing already and that other people are telling them to stop. he also told cnn, quote, i don't want any favors, i juf just wan this investigated. tom democrats are calling foul. >> we've come to a very sorry state when it's considered okay for an american politician, never mind an attorney for the president, to go and seek foreign intervention in american politics. >> reporter: democrats say giulia giuliani's plans sound eerily similar on the president's call on russia to meddle in the 2016 election. >> russia, if you're listening, i hope you've able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.

rudy -- rudy did not want that interview to end "please don't send me back to the home the nurses areto me! [ laughter ] also, only a fox anchor would express shock and disappointment at making another headline you just got the president's personal lawyer to say that he might invoke executive privilege if asked about a foreign trip to dig up dirt on a political opponent to meddle in a presidential campaign meaning he's discussed that plan with the president himself. fox anchors react to news like when your five-year-old admits too much when you get to a birthday party "we're late. because we stopped at the store with bottles to buy some daddy juice. alright. that's -- that's enough. [ laughter ] that's not for them to know. but this is what it's like inside the bubble whether it's cheating at golf or cheating at politics when these guys are in their own little world, they operate by their own rules. that's why trump has so much affection for strongmen. he thinks he's above the law or as fox news would put it, he's - >> a little bit controversial, but that's okay. >> seth: this has bee

. >> meanwhile, the president's attorney, rudy giuliani, is planning a trip to ukraine to persuade the incoming government there to pursue an investigation into joe biden. you heard me right. giuliani insists this is not meddling in an election, it's just an investigation. does any of this sound familiar? joining us now to talk about this and so much more kaitlan collins cnn white house correspondent, s.e. cupp and bianna golodryga cnn contributor. great to have all of us. kaitlan, let's start with you. so they wanted russia's help in the last election and now rudy giuliani admits wanting ukraine's help for this election to investigate one of the president's top political opponents in joe biden and is there anyone hodges that this is a little strange? >> it's a pretty stunning statement coming from the president's personal attorney saying that he willingly is going to do this and even saying it on the record. it's causing a lot of confusion inside the white house which typically is the result of what rudy giuliani says in public. people in the white house will readily admit when he mak

at the same time, rudy giuliani is calling for an investigation that could her joe biden. >> rudy giulianiheading to ukraine with two key missions in mind. first, he wants to investigate if the democratic national committee may have worked with ukrainians to reveal damaging information about former trump campaign chairman paul manafort, with hopes that it would help clinton with her white house bid. the second giuliani objective involves trying to get president-elect to investigate joe biden's involvement in an energy company, something biden joked about last year. >> is that, leaving in six hours, if the prosecutor is not fired, he's not getting the money. the son of a [bleep] got fired, and they put in place someone who was solid at the time. >> he is referring to a chief prosecutor in the ukraine, who he wanted fired. >> investigative journalist peter schweitzer says biden was threatening to withhold a loan guarantee is from the united states if they didn't drop the probe. >> here is the problem, that prosecutor was investigating his son hunter biden, who was on the board and being paid

anyway, that was rudy giuliani then. does anyone remember that?his now is a low, low, i would say. and he's advertising it. it's not illegal as he points out, or possibly isn't. but as someone who's been to ukraine a number of times there during the 2015 elections, as part of the election observer mission, we interviewed all the candidates, the big issue, surprise, was corruption. and there's no reason to think now that rudy giuliani can't get any answer that he wants and bring it home. >> because clearly ukraine is for sale. could that be his strategy? while we're sitting here debating that trump tower meeting, don jr. being subpoenaed, what he could have done, rudy giuliani right in plain sight is announcing, i'm headed to ukraine to do the same thing again. is he trying to normalize that this is simply how politics works when you and i both know it's not. >> you and i don't want it to work this way. democrats do this too. let's understand. it's not one-way dirt. in this case let's remember, paul manafort and some others are being prosecuted for

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so the optics of this clearly don't look great for rudy giuliani. but' peers to be moving forward.s a question about whether or not he's actually going to have a meeting with the president-elect of ukraine who takes office at the beginning of june. >> are there any official meetings or did he tell you about his plans as he's over there? >> reporter: he sort of reticent about telling me or anybody else exactly what he's doing. he said there are no plans confirmed to meet with zellin ski, that is the incoming president of ukraine. but he has been in touch over the last several months with several current and former ukrainian officials over skype and including one meeting he had with the current prosecutor general of ukraine in new york. it stands to reason he may try to meet those folks while in ukraine as well. >> zellinski, the new reality tv show comedian turned president of ukraine. just reminding everyone so we're all on the same page. michael warren, thank you. >> thanks, brook. >>> coming up next, the mother who warned a colorado school about another columbine as the campus is

wes, let me begin with you, this about face with rudy giuliani. he says he is going to ukraine to dig up dirt on joe biden, then he's not going because he was going to walk into a group of people who were enemies to the president and the united states. what is really at the core of all this? >> i think it's remarkable. the reporting came out that rudy giuliani, the attorney for the president of the united states was going to go on this trip, seeking information not only about hunter biden and his role in the ukrainian gas company, but the beginnings of the mueller investigation, the russian interference investigation and whether or not democrats, dnc people worked with ukrainian intelligence on it. it underscored the point which this political moment is not one of shame. it's relatively shameless. someone close to the president of the united states, his personal attorney, would lobby, travel across the world and lobby a foreign government to investigate into the president of the united states, and two, to launch an investigation or encourage them

. >>> plus the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani, canceled a trip to ukraine thought to be talking damaging information on democrats. why he suddenly decided it's not a trip worth taking. >>> and turning up the heat on chinese tariffs. how this move could potentially have a huge impact on voters in key states. >>> start the hour with the latest between the white house and congress. this could go as was just mentioned all the way to the supreme court. release of the president's tax returns still in question. there's a new deadline that came out just last night. the treasury has until friday now to release six years of tax returns. so says a house ways and means committee subpoena for both treasury second stephen ma nunu and the irs president. a formal request was made in april. deadline arrived. mnuchin refuse pd neil had two options. issue a subpoena or go to court. if mnuchin refuses the subpoena, another deadline, final. and testimony in congress, ten days away. what the "washington journal" first reported, pressuring counsel don mcgahn. he declined a request that came after mueller filed

i think the way rudy giuliani is handling this underlines that. if there was anything here, predication for investigating a major american political figure for corruption, you can be certain the fbi would be on that. there would be an office domestically being handled by a u.s. attorney's office. here we have rudy giuliani who instead of perhaps if you didn't ploo believe that the fbi can read the newspapers but perhaps legitimately sending information to the fbi, but rudy giuliani and trump have so little confidence in the quality of the allegations that they are making that they are taking it to a foreign government that they believe they can pressure instead of our domestic law enforcement. >> fair point. thanks to both. >>> coming up, paying the price. how president trump's trade war with china could affect your bottom line. stay with us right here. bottom line. ay with us right here. you know that look? that life of the party look. walk it off look. one more mile look. reply all look. own your look with fewer lines. there's only one botox® co

rudy giuliani says that president trump know what is he is doing in the ukraine? >> yeah, but now the trump campaign says they are distancing themselves and that rudy giuliani is a private citizen. but he is also the president's personal lawyer. bind's campaign, they are not commenting. >> mary, thank you. >>> next tonight, the headline causing e headlines nationwide. a second grade teacher forced to pay for her own substitute. here is adrienne bankert. >> reporter: a popular second-grade teacher battling breast cancer in san francisco tonight is being forced to pay for her own substitute. >> she's wonderful, she's a beautiful lovely great teacher. she's one of the best teachers. it's terrible. >> reporter: california's between school districts and the teachers' union allows ten paid sick days a year. after that, teachers may qualify for 100 days of paid sick leave. the cost of a substitute. the teachers' union says their hands are tied. >> we'd love to change it but we're working under a public school system that's been on starvation resources since the '70s. >>

rudy giuliani will be here in moments, the president's personal lawyer will offer his first reaction to the new subpoena i just talked about hannity against donald trump jr donald trump jr., the pathetic contempt play against attorney general bill barr, and new details about joe biden's dealings in the ukraine. and a little later tonight, what happened when the democratic front front runners are compared to trump? and two recent school shootings have put students in positions of defending themselves. what happens when a conservative governor stepped in to take charge. a debate over ron desantis' move to arm teachers that every parent needs to see. but first, i want to dig into the latest democratic effort to kneecap the trump justice department. the effort to take down attorney general bill barr reeks of desperation, and as i told you last night, it is tied very closely to his efforts to fully investigate the malfeasance of the obama doj. most republican members saw what the democrats were doing yesterday at the hearing to hold barr in contempt. but at least one g.o.p. senator is odd

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rudy giuliani says he's not going to go, insinuating the trip was a set up by enemies of the u.s. president and, perhaps, the president of the united states. the president facing pressure to release taxes. democrats issue subpoenas to the irs and treasury department demanding the last six years of his personal tax returns. cnn's jeremy diamond is at the white house. jeremy, the president has a lot on his mind. he's been retweeting an awful lot. let's talk about the president's comments about investigating biden. >> reporter: that's right. the president, in an interview yesterday with politico essentially leaving the door open to directing his attorney general, bill barr to investigate some questions of conflict of interest involving the former vice president who donald trump, in that same interview referred to as essentially the likely nominee, the likely democratic nominee, who he expects to face in the 2020 general election. now, these questions of conflicts of interest are things that the president and his allies have been pushing for several weeks now and relates to the vice p

plus the uproar over his personal lawyer, rudy fiscgiuli and his visit to ukraine. show the president's approval ratings on the rise. the 11th hour on a friday night starts right now.

and, you know, it doesn't surprise me rudy giuliani's doing it. he's still stung over the fact in that 2008 campaign vice president biden in a debate said his whole campaign was a noun, verb of 9/11. he's been looking for revenge for a long time. >> let's listen to what the president said today about robert mueller. there's no agreement yet when mueller will testify to the house judiciary committee. and that apparently leaves mueller out there as someone he can attack with impunity. let's listen to this. >> bob mueller is no friend of mine. i have contacts with him. we had a business dispute, we had someone that is in love with james comey. they liked james comey, they were very good friends. they were supposedly best friends. you look at the picture file and you see hundreds of pictures of him and comey. and with all of that -- and other things -- he wanted the fbi job. i don't know if anybody knows that, but he was considered for the fbi job, wanted it and the day after he didn't get it, he became the special counsel. that's a conflict. >> chuck

bill barr is a sophisticated, disciplined, more intelligent version of rudy giuliani. and he's putting a smoke screen around all these issues, whether it's the mueller report, donald trump' taxes, to create an argument that it's nobody's business by the president's, that the president's judgment is paramount and he shouldn't be checked by constitutional powers that belong to the congress. people should be very concerned where that's headed. >> unitary executive theory. that appears to be what we have. talk to the media for a moment. this pattern, down to the use of ukraine as a lever against an american candidate, an american democrat that is attempting to run for president, what should the media be doing to govern itself if as expected rudy giuliani and whatever other minions they decide send around the world looking for dirt start offering stories to "the new york times" or "the washington post," to the american media to try and harm joe biden or any off the other candidates should they become the nominee? >> i mean, look at the facts. like, if you have a situation,

rudy giuliani canceling a trip to ukraine. thing would be walking into a trap. (dad) got it? (boy) got it. nooooooo... (dad) nooooooo... (vo) quick, the quicker picker upper! bounty picks up messes quicker and is two times more absorbent. bounty, the quicker picker upper. >>> so i've decided, sharon, i'm not going to go to the ukraine. >> you're not going to go? >> i'm not going to go because i think i'm walk intoog a group of people that are enemies of the president. >> welcome back to "up." a political trap, that is why rudy giuliani says he was not be traveling to ukraine. the "new york times" is the first to report rudy giuliani could take steps to benefit the president's re-election bid. he volunteered to go to kiev to urge him to look into two matters. one is the origin of the special counsel's investigation into russia's interference in the 2016 election. the other is the involvement of former vice president joe biden's son involvement in a oligahch. he said we were not meddling in an election, we have meddling in an in

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rudy giuliani should just back off. >> reporter: rudy giuliani's trip to ukraine comes as james comey is blasting the president saying he agreed with hundreds of former prosecutors who said mr. trump could be charged with obstruction of justice if he weren't in office. >> i think the ones that would be most likely charged are not the ones that involved me or this mcgahn episode. >> you think he's behaving less than honorably? >> i do. >> you're saying rod rosenstein is a person not of a strong character? >> i don't think he is. >> of accomplishment very bright but he's not strong enough. >> he does it. it's happened to me. >> reporter: the president is escalating his trade war. tweeting build your products in the united states and there are no tariffs. even some republicans are questioning what mr. trump is doing. >> the way you deal with that is not with using a tit for tat tariff war. you think of tariff like a sales tax. >> reporter: president's critics say he's a trade hypocrite as he has manufactured his own products in china in the past. >> the ties are made in where, china? tie

rudy giuliani defended the decision, then back stepped. just for some context, this is related to events that took place in 2016 when then vice president, joe biden was pushing to oust the top prosecutor in ukraine. that prosecutor was investigating an energy company in which hunter biden, the son of the former vice president, had financial interests. on friday, trump told politico, he thought he would be within his rights to ask attorney general, bill barr, to look into this. here is what he said. certainly, it would be an appropriate thing to speak to him about, but i have not done that, as of yet. it could be a big situation. biden was not alone in calling for the removal of the ukrainian official. there were a number of other western leaders doing the same at the time. there's no evidence the actions biden took were connected to his son's business activities. before giuliani abandoned his plans to go to ukraine, chris murphy wrote a letter to republican chair of the foreign relations committee, asking him to press for more details abou

rudy giuliani, the president's lawyer tweeted it out last night. he pulled it down, but he put it out there. >> this is what he did in 2016. it's the exact same thing, the same playbook. >> and it's higher movement here to discredit nancy pelosi with what was, i could use the word lie, you think in some way lie is overused at this point, but it's a fake video. >> it's a doctored video and it's manipulated and it is, i think, really important to highlight to everybody, because this is -- this election will require a lot of critical thinking. so when you see something that doesn't exactly smell right, it will require everybody to do double checking. it's out there, it's already happening, we're seeing it with this video and rudy giuliani tweeted it out. >> rudy giuliani tweet eed it o, and then the president tweeted out a spliced video of nancy pelosi, which was done in such a way to make her seem goofy, off, and not quite all there. and at a certain point, when you have all of these videos out there, if one is more real than the -- what's the differ

barr, the american people know that you are no different from rudy giuliani or kellyanne conway or any of the other people who sacrifice their once decent reputation for the liar that sits in the oval office. do you think it's okay for the president to ask his white house counsel to lie? >> well, i'm willing to talk about what is criminal. >> do you think it is okay for president to offer pardons to people that do not testify against him, to threaten the family of someone who does? is that okay? >> when did he -- pardon -- >> i think you know what i'm talking about. please, mr. attorney general.

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what do you think rudy giuliani would think of you coming to this conclusion? do you think in his heart of hearts he agrees with you and now nearly 500 others? >> i worked with rudy on a daily basis for nearly five years in a variety of positions. we were prosecutors together. i have absolutely no doubt that prosecutor rudy giuliani would have indicted someone who committed the acts that are put out in the mueller report in a heartbeat. i am 100% confident of that. >> all right, i appreciate both of your time very much. >>> and next, breaking news. treasury secretary steve mnuchin refusing to hand over president trump's tax returns to congress. will democrats hold mnuchin in contempt? >>> plus the fight for 2020. it's a county president trump barely flipped, but he won it. he needs to hold onto it. can he? >> where are places like saginaw going to be in 2020? >> from our perspective this is ground zero. >>> and before heading off to prison michael cohen takes a parting shot at the man he once said he would take a bullet for. >> there still remains much to be to

that rudy was on his way to ukraine. and the president saying to politico that he is going to talk to the attorney general about investigating the bidens. this picture is just stunning. we throw around the words banana republic. this conduct taken together is really chilling. >> when president trump took office he expected the bummers in the republican party to tamp down his controversial conduct. and then they did initially. and over time they've stopped. and they condone it. you have senator lindsey graham basically saying if i were donald trump jr.'s lawyer, i would tell him don't come back and face a lawful subpoena or cooperate with a bipartisan investigation on a subpoena that a republican signed off on. and so, everyone around the president, who he anticipated would be stopping him, become henchmen. he does what he can get away with. he called on the investigation of michael cohen's father-in-law. he has done all sorts of things that there's been no push back to. so the more he sees he gets away with, the more he

rudy giuliani remember is not just a lawyer, he is a former mayor, he is a politician and i think hey much thinks of himself as playing all of these roles on behalf of the president. >> absolutely. certainly not just a legal role. michael warren, thanks very much for your reporting and, shan, please stay with us. poppy? >> it is such a fascinating story. we will see where it goes. >>> at the same time former fbi director james comey is attacking the current attorney general william barr's character and his credibility when it comes to barr's handling of the mueller report. watch this. >> i think he acted in a way that's less than honorable in the way he described it in writing and described it during a press conference and continues to talk as if he's the president's lawyer. that is not the attorney general's job. >> shan wu is back with us, sabriis a breen nasa sabrina sadiddiqui ao joins us. from a legal perspective is he right? >> i think he is right. comey, whatever his other shortcomings may be, has been pretty darn accurate in terms of his legal analysis and i think almost ever

. >> the president's personal lawyer, rudy giuliani says he'll no longer travel to you crane tomorrow. he reportedly planned to seek new info about the origin of the special counsel's investigation. >>> new findings about joe biden's son involvement in a gas company owned by a ukrainian oligarch. >> i'm not going to go because i'll walk into a group of people who are enemies of the president and the united states. they ought to remove any political suggestion. i'll step back and just watch it unfold. >> democratic senator chris murphy called for a congressional investigation as democrats said giuliani was trying to seek foreign help to influence the election. >> it is highly unethical. >> the defense he's not seeking a foreign government's help, yes it's an investigation to affect one of the candidates they fear the most, joe biden and i think it's reprehensible. >> we've come to a very sorry state when it's considered okay for an american politician, never mind an attorney for the president to go and seek foreign intervention in american politics. >> trade talks between u.s. and chin

because the president disagrees with sean hannity and rudy giuliani. hen tweeted last week, i don't knowas why the radical left democrats want bob mueller to testify when he just issued a $40 million report that states loud and clear for all to hear, no collusion, no obstruction. now he has a different message, or at least his friends do, that's notie what robert muelle concluded. where's the white house on robert mueller's testimony, on the antics? >> clearly they were nervous watching him on television unsure of what he was going to say. they had some imagery ready to tweet out afterwards, saying case closed and everything else, but i think the reason the white house is sending out this message that you do not comply with these subpoenas from house democrats is that they appreciate the value ofde a televised hearing. theyhe understand what that wou mean for the country, how everyone would focus on the president. the president understands the poweren of television as well a anybody. he knowsis if if you sit bob mueller there for several hours and ever

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one thing i want to make clear is rudy giuliani didn't just invent this last week.been pitching this hard to anyone who will listen to him for some time. this is a cause for him. i don't expect him to back off. he may not make the pitch to ukrainian lawmakers because it's unclear what he expected to get out of that. this is something he's pitching hard right now. by even suggests he wanted the new ukrainian leader to start the investigation now it seems a little bit like meddling. yes? >> yes, it does. ask yourself if joe biden opted not to run, would we be having this conversation? would mayor giuliani be proposing going to the ukraine to ask for an investigation? it's all evidence of the concern by the trump white house about the biden strength he's exhibited out of the gate. >> are you okay after the sixers' lost? that game was -- >> no, i'm not. thank you for asking. >> i was concerned. genuine concern. >> i was running from one tv to another in my house for reasons i will not bore you. i missed the shot. >> no. >> the clicker wouldn't operate. by the time i got