. >>> we're back with rudy chavez medina, the nephew of cesar chavez, talking about the legacy of a great man who passed away 20 years ago -- was it next month? >> next month. april 23rd. >> right in front of us is what we call el cortito. i don't know if you have experience with it. but i tell people, because i take it around now when i'm giving presentations, and i say this looks cute if you're working in your backyard on the flower bed. but it wasn't cute back then. tell us about it. >> no, it wasn't. the reason why they -- the farmers had the workers saw off this other end, because they didn't want them leaning on the hoe, making it look like they were working. they wanted -- they wanted them bent over, and they actually wanted to see the hoe moving. so they didn't allow -- so they actually were long hoes, they just had to cut them. that's the name. cortito, short. so that's the way it was. and what it actually did, it really ruined many, many, many thousands of backs of farm workers, both men and women. and even children. because you're stooped over for sometimes 10 or 12 hours a day