i want to thank rudy giuliani, by the way of being part of "larry king live" history.w welcome maybe the most frequent guest in the history of this program. senator john mccain. member of the homeland security and government affairs committee. and he's in a battle to be renominated for his position as senior senator from the great state of arizona. what does this bombing attempt in new york say, if anything, to you about the level of terrorist threat in this country, john? >> well, larry, i think that and the underwear bomber and other attempts that have been made and other plots that have been uncovered indicate that terrorist threat is out there, that there is a radical islamic extremist element that is bound and determined to train, equip terrorists to come to our country and try to do terrible things. by the way, i would like to, at the beginning of our conversation, say that our law enforcement agencies and agencies of government at all levels did a great job and we're very proud of them. >> larry: yesterday, you said it would be -- this is your quote, "a serious

let's bring in former new york city mayor rudy giuliani.telling us in the green room new york didn't have enough cameras. >> we probably need more. we have more than anywhere else. i remember being in london for, unfortunately, when the bombing took place in 2005 and they had pretty clear images of those characters and had them arrested within maybe less than 24 hours. and the whole privacy issue, i mean, i should point out there are more cameras there than when i was the mayor, mayor bloomberg was able to get more cameras in there. if we didn't have them, we'd be in a difficult situation right now. >> right. if that's the best picture we got, we're in trouble. >> i'm hoping and praying that last count i read in the papers this morning, they put 30 cameras, something like another 60 to look at. hopefully there's a better shot. remember the first terrorist incident i was in mayor, was a shooting on the brooklyn bridge when an islamic terrorist started shooting at a bunch of hasidic students that were coming home from school and we got him in

and he probably should have had made daily press conferences, as bobby jindal did or rudy giuliani did after 9/11. so that would have been nice, if he maybe explained more, or showed more theatre but that would not have closed the hole at the bottom of the ocean. and so you know, i'm not sure we should really be looking to the government in these circumstances . >> lehrer: replace the word "government" with "president" it is not the government, the opinion ree or the bureaucracy but the president, mark's point that like it or not, when things get rough, they're going to look to the president. is that inevitable? you are saying it's not? >> i'm not sure it was in the 19th century. i'm not sure that is the way we naturally are. the guy in the shrimp business and mes have a sense. the government has certain jobs and part of the job is to regulate the oil industry so this thing doesn't happen as much as it could. part of the job is to help people who are hurting, who are in those industries, who are in those towns, who are in the restaurants. that's clearly a part of the government's job.

. >> if you look at new york city and rudy giuliani when he was mayor, they did the opposite of that.police officers you can't ask these things. i don't understand how they do something that is in complete violation of the federal law. >> he did that because he thought hispanic voters wouldn't come forward with tips about crime to police. >> yeah. >> i think this is the reason why there needs to be comprehensive immigration reform, certainly before 2012. i don't see how the republican party stands in a national election with the image that is anti-hispanic, which the controversy over this bill is exacerbatiexacerba. >> chris: well, i'm glad for one we settled that problem. we have to take a break here. up next, president obama says we're beating al-qaeda and fires the director of national intelligence. we'll tackle both in a moment. i can download files up to 10x faster than 3g... outside. i can stream the movie "airplane" to my cell phone... at the airport. i can have a crystal-clear videoconference with my clients... ...muffin basket or something... ...while working offsite, or shar

former new york mayor rudy giuliani joins larry king live tonight at 9:00 eastern time. >>> tennessee is slowly starting to dry out, but try selling that line to the folks in nashville. folks are still submerged and some lost everything. one i-reporter tells us about his personal battle to keep the river away. >> as you can see, our driveway is completely covered over with water, not as high as it was yesterday, but i don't think it really matters at this point because today you can see all the oil and gas, residue on the water. it smells pretty much like sewage. >> boy, the state's death toll stands at 19. ten of them in nashville. president obama has named parts of the state a disaster area. >>> an immigration protest on the basketball court. the nba's phoenix suns will wear their los suns jerseys. the suns owner ordered the uniform change to take a shot at arizona's tough new immigration law. >> i don't think sports and politics mix, and i don't think that as far as that goes even celebrity and politics. >> you have a professional wrestler that's now a governor. you have kevin john

they discovered, the police chief the mayor, at that time, rudy giuliani, that a bad criminal environment breeds crime. so if you have a neighborhood where there are old junk cars falling apart in the yard, there's trash in the front yard they haven't taken stuff off their stoop, there's windows broken out, there's a neighborhood with no pride and therefore the criminal element breeds in that neighborhood. but if you go in and get the criminal element out of there, get the criminality of the environment out of there, the neighborhood improves. and you put a beat cop there that allows them to know that the law enforcement is there for them, law enforcement is involved. then the public can feel confident and they start to take care of their neighborhood and in turn make the crime move elsewhere. so they cleaned up new york city with that basic theory. went back to the old walk-the-beat cop theory that came out of the 19th century. now, why do i mention that? people say to me, why do you think the cartels who were in colombia and other parts of the country, why did they come down and settle

bush, and senior advisor to the rudy giuliani presidential committee, david is a veteran of political campaign war rooms and white house communication shops. most recently david made national news, calling on politicians to step away from what he called, overheated talk, hysterical accusations and pseudo information. about health care reform legislation. seated at the end is wade henderson. cherished friend of the anti-defamation league and president and ceo of the leadership conference on civil and human rights and the leadership conference< education fund. the leadership conference which is celebrating its 60th anniversary this month is the nation's premier civil and human rights coalition. under which more than 200 national organizations join together across a diverse array of communities. adl continues to be proud to be a part of the leadership conference family and co-chairs its task forces on human rights and on hate crimes. under wade's stewardship the leadership conference has become one of the nation's most effective advocates for civil and human rights. frank sharry to davi