sensations exhibit, where the depiction of the virgin mary particularly angered the mayor of new york, rudy giuliani, and he threatened to cut off funding. you had to watch that with interest. what was your take on that controversy? well, it was very clear that the mayor was in violation. he can say whatever he wants to say; that's fine. but he cannot withhold money from the people's museum. and, you know, that's in violation of what the supreme court's decision was. he can say whatever he want-- what bothers me a little bit is, i think people need more education-- and the mayor certainly did-- about where the artist came from: nigeria; what his parents thought about the virgin mary and how she was deified in that country before he started to make a decision about it being sacriligious or something. you tell a number of very interesting stories in the book about specific battles over specific art. and one is a about a film called watermelon woman and that your description is that it has a lovemaking scene-- but fairly modest by standards-- and it involved some lesbians-- african-american lesbian wom

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when the sensation exhibit was under attack by mayor rudy giuliani. what is it that americans fear about art that leads to the kind of backlash that you had to speak out about? well, they should fear art. they should fear film. they should fear theater. i mean, this is where ideas happen. this is where you-- somebody goes into a dark room and starts to watch something, and their perspective can be completely questioned, and they can look at something and identify, and the very seeds of activism, i think, are empathy and imagination. once you can imagine yourself as a mother that loses a child-- even she is a palestinian, whatever, you know-- it just opens up a whole new thing. so governments have always been afraid of art, and they should be, and i think it's an artist's job and expertise-- and i use the word artist with myself in a very humble way-- to--we're outsiders by definition, and you know, it's our job to kind of aerate things and punch holes in things so that people can squirm around in there and kind of let some light in and see what's goin

bush. 2001, rudy giuliani. 1992, bill clinton. so it seems like politics helps move you up on the list there, michael. >> yeah, and it is supposed to be for better or worse. you take a look at the very interesting 2001 pick. at the time, i remember being caught in the ferver of it thinking it should be giuliani and it shouldn't be bin laden. if it's really for abort or worse, it probably should have been bin laden. even individuals who are on the other side of the political fence from the tea party i think would have to acknowledge they had a profound impact on this cycle's election. >> so let me ask you since i mentioned the candidates, the unemployed american, to me that seems like that affects us certainly in the past and continues to affect us in the future. you have some people out there who perhaps will never work again. those folks who are in their 60s and who will be pumped out of the line by younger people coming into the workforce or industries like the auto industry who has not recovered. that's the only place they work

if it weren't socluse rudy giuliani woobt have come in either. fan. >> but scott brown has curt schilling okay? >> and another. >> schilling? >> well, he's not there any more. >> oh. i don't know anything about sports. >> the chuvannah goes to -- there are a lot of people we didn't nominate. >> don't yell at us on twitter. >> we know there are so many worthy nominees. >> the winner is -- >> martha coakley. you know what made her the winner of this. we went through this. she just won the re-election to attorney general. >> a popular prosecutor in massachusetts. >> duval patrick just won re-election. you had to run an exceptionally bad campaign. yes, she was a bad candidate, but she clearly can win campaigns. this was an exceptionally bad campaign. >> highly consequential because, of course, it changed everything with the health care reform law losing that seat to the republicans. >> absolutely. >> we could go on all day, but that is "daily rundown." >>> coming up next, "chris jansing & company." at 1:00 p.m., don't miss "andrea mitchell reports."

republican leaders, former new york city mayor rudy giuliani and governor mike huckabee all supporters this. joining us now a leading champion of the bill, new york senator kirsten jill he brand. senator jill brand, i think everybody wants to take care of the people who helped take care of new york city in the aftermath of that awful event. but the bill, the tab for this, $7 billion. why so much money? >> well, this is a fund that will pay for the health care for all of these fist responders, these heros and all the victims of the families who were there at ground zero who some of the children are really suffering from very difficult lung disorders and conditions. so this is a fund that's going to pay for their health care over the next ten years. and can the bottom line is this is a question of right versus wrong. these are the men and women who literally climbed up the towers when everyone was running down, the men and women there looking for survivors in the fist days and remains thereafter. they remained there day in and day out for months and months, and i can tell you these are o

remember how rudy giuliani turned around new york city the small thing the street lights, because thated people know, hey, you can work together to do do these things, tackle the big insurmountable problems too, the president picked up the phone, harry reid, get the earmarks out of the budget, pick up 20 points in the polls, people believe him he had credibility on spending, co-begin to turn -- >> no he wasn't. >> one of the few opportunities he have. >> he wouldn't. because some of the biggs supporters of earmarks are folks out of mississippi, thad cochran, jim imhoff. >> trying to help your guy, ro. >> not do anything helping him with any poll numbers. the reality is you have people who complain about earmarks, the general public, hate earmarks, they don't mind it when they come to their congressional districts, never seen a constituent say, oh, send it back, please, they all lie when it comes tory marks. >> the street lights of new york city the president could begin to turn the ungovernable city around if he picks up the phone and calls. >> if they don't pass this and all of a sudd

it's how rudy giuliani cleaned up new york city spretreet ligh. it gives people confidence. this is an important symbol and the president whiffed on it. tax cuts do not cause deficits. spending causes deficits. if my friend paul goes to the bar and blows the rent money, not saying you have done it again, but if you blow the rent money then fail to rob rich guy to pay for it, the rich guy didn't cause the deficit. >> you must be somewhere between getting drunk and mugging somebody. president bush cut taxes for the rich, put a prescription drug benefit on the national credit card. that plus the recession, those four things caused the deficit. we need to address each of those four things. raise taxes on rich people like you, end this god awful war in iraq. >> i want to turn the corner to s.t.a.r.t. we don't know if it's going to happen. sarah palin, this was issued in the "national review" online today. says the proposed new s.t.a.r.t. agreement should be evaluated by the only criteria that matters for a treaty. is it in america's interest? i'm convinced this treaty is not, it