rudy giuliani is back. the associated press in an article published today that he's seriously eyeing another run for the presidential nomination despite the spectacular failure last time. he's critical of barack obama, saying the democrat has made a faltering economy even worse. of course, it remains impossible for rudy giuliani to speak to a reporter or the public without mentioning 9/11. the ap article quotes him as saying we handled everything, giuliani says now, but this was so far beyond what we'd contemplated. well, it certainly was beyond anything rudy giuliani contemplated, which is why giuliani made the worst tactical decision in the history of the city of new york. it was at giuliani's insis tans that the response was located by giuliani at the world trade center. giuliani was advised by the professionals in his administration that the emergency command and control center should be located in brooklyn instead of at an obvious terrorism target. but the mayor insisted that it be located within walki

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rudy giuliani will weigh in on it.nis miller is going to hammer senator reid tonight over some of the debt comments reid made. miller has some thoughts on the president's >> bill: while all the polls show president obama falling has it at 42% lowest in that poll ever. the republican party has its own problems. here is sarah palin on mitt romney. >> i have respect for mitt romney but i do not have respect for what he has done through this debt increase debate. he did this. he waited until it was a done deal that we would increase the debt ceiling and more money would be spent, more money borrowed and then spent on bigger government and then he came out and he made a statement that oh he didn't like the deal after all. >> bill: with us now possible republican contender rudy giuliani. there is no doubt there is a split in the republican party between -- i am not going to say conservative and moderates. i think that's too simple. it's the new wave tea party people, fundamentalists. >> right. >> bill: conservative republica

rudy giuliani will weigh in on it.miller is going to hammer senator reid tonight over some of the debt comments reid made. miller has some thoughts on the president's it was created with the power of verizon 4g lte. introducing the lightning-fast, 10-inch samsung galaxy tab. stay up to date, entertain yourself, and enrich your knowledge like you've never imagined. only at verizon. built so you can rule the air. ♪ ♪ when you're resonsible for this much of the team, you need a car you can cot on. ♪ >> bill: while all the polls show president obama falling has it at 42% lowest in that poll ever. the republican party has its own problems. here is sarah palin on mitt romney. >> i have respect for mitt romney but i do not have respect for what he has done through this debt increase debate. he did this. he waited until it was a done deal that we would increase the debt ceiling and more money would be spent, more money borrowed and then spent on bigger government and then he came out and he made a statement that oh he didn't l

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former new york mayor rudy giuliani, same thing, he crashed and burned. i don't believe governor perry is the same, he will be an active campaigner. he will pull from michelle bachmann bachmann. rick asantorum placed his agenda on social conservatives. if he's able to craft a strong economic message he greatly impacts mitt romney. he impacts three or four candidates beyond one candidate. >> we're going to leave it there. erick erickson, roland martin, mimi swartz. thank you. >>> it's more complicated and the relationship is fascinating, take a look, reportedly there's been bad blood all around, jim acosta has "raw politics" tonight. >> amen. >> amen. >> amen. >> reporter: for rick perry a question keeps coming up, not whether he's running for president, but whether he's running from a certain president named george w. bush. >> i called him on his birthday. >> reporter: this week. ery told "time" magazine there's no bad blood with the man he replaced as governor from texas in. >> reporter: is there? >> not from my perspective and not between george w. bush

i know the governor had at one time talked earlier in the spring about looking at rudy giuliani. >> isg rudy should be the vice presidential candidate for rick prry? >> that's an interesting thought. i'm sure there are folks talking about that. >> bob, would you ever want perry as president as giuliani as vice president. >> well, it is not going to happen in the republican party for the same reason that john mccain couldn't get joe leiberman, couldn't pick tom rich, former governor of pennsylvania wp rudy giuliani is pro choice, too moderate on social issues for most of the republican party. i can't imagine rick perry, if he gets the nomination with a base he has, doing that, i think he is much more likely to go with someone like marco rubio. finally, i don't think george pataki, and i can say this and maybe michael can't, i don't think he has much more of the chance of being the republican nominee next time than i do. >> it would be like that secretary of state, every night the president goes to bed, giuliani would be saying, i'm in charge. thanks for your time this evening. >> take c

former new york mayor rudy giuliani, same thing, he crashed and burned. i don't believe governor perry is the same, he will be an active campaigner. he will pull from michele bachma bachmann. rick asantorum placed his agenda on social conservatives. if he's able to craft a strong economic message he greatly impacts mitt romney. he impacts three or four candidates beyond one candidate. >> we're going to leave it there. erick erickson, roland martin, mimi swartz. thank you. >>> it's more complicated and the relationship is fascinating, take a look, reportedly there's been bad blood all around, jim acosta has "raw politics" tonight. >> amen. >> amen. >> amen. >> reporter: for rick perry a question keeps coming up, not whether he's running for president, but whether he's running from a certain president named george w. bush. >> i called him on his birthday. >> reporter: this week. ery told "time" magazine there's no bad blood with the man he replaced as governor from texas in. >> reporter: is there? >> not from my perspective and not between joornlg w. bush a

rudy giuliani at something like 28%.y at 3% went on to went iowa caucus and had a surge in the race. romney was down at 13. mccain who was nominated was 11%. i think these things are really flew which. perry is the new bright shiney object. formidable candidate, three-term governor and all of that. there's going to be a lot of vetting done of him. there's controversial things he said. he called social security a ponzi scheme. he's got some immigration issues. this stuff plays out. >> we say back home, picky, picky. >> a lot of 310 million people in america, is this all we have in the republican party? we have a guy name perry, who managed to out-jesus george bush, which is i found nice and skillful. >> hold that thought. from what i'm hearing in my ear, we aring about to -- we are about to take a break. more right after the break. [ lopez ] beautiful skin needs protection. introducing venus proskin th moisture rich shave gel bars that create a layer of protection with every close stroke. leaving your skin beautifully smo

former new york mayor rudy giuliani, same thing, they loved him. he crashed and burned. i don't believe governor perry is the same, he will be an active campaigner. but again, he will also turn from, in terms of tea party, michele bachmann. rick santorum placed his agenda on social conservatives. rick perry pulls from him. if he's able to craft a strong economic message he greatly impacts mitt romney. so he actually impacts 3 of 4 candidates beyond one candidate. >> we're going to leave it there. erick erickson, roland martin, mimi swartz. good to have you all on the program. thank you so much. >>> reality it's a lot more complicated and the relationship is kind of fascinating. take a look. reportedly, there's been bad blood all around. jim acosta has the "raw politics" tonight. >> amen. >> amen. >> amen. >> reporter: for rick perry, it's a question keeps coming up, not whether he's running for president, but whether he's running from a certain president named george w. bush. >> i called him on his birthday. >> reporter: this week, perry told "time" magazine there's no b

opportunity to come to new york city which is where i live now in the opportunity was to work for rudy giulianion his presidential campaign. not during the course of my time working for president bush, i sensed a mounting animosity and distant and of my peer group from the republican party. i noticed this not only in 041006, but she couldn't miss it in l.a. and polls really solidified that the youth vote had completely turned away from the republican party. now for the record, i'm completely accustomed to being in the minority of my peer group when it comes to politics. i'm very comfortable. in fact day job as a hoover and cut out for it. when you grow up related to the most vilified president in 20th 20th century history, whom i history books taught caused the great depression, who ap u.s. history books to this day say he did nothing to solve it and i know this for a fact because duke blackwood, director of the reagan library here brilliantly e-mailed because his daughter had an ap u.s. history essay she had to write about herbert hoover not doing anything to fix the crisis in the great depres

former new york mayor rudy giuliani, same thing, they loved him. he crashed and burned. i don't believe governor perry is the same, he will be an active campaigner. but again, he will also turn from, in terms of tea party, michele bachmann. rick santorum placed his agenda on social conservatives. rick perry pulls from him. if he's able to craft a strong economic message he greatly impacts mitt romney. so he actually impacts 3 of 4 candidates beyond one candidate. >> we're going to leave it there. erick erickson, roland martin, mimi swartz. good to have you all on the program. thank you so much. >>> reality it's a lot more complicated and the relationship is kind of fascinating. take a look. reportedly, there's been bad blood all around. jim acosta has the "raw politics" tonight. >> amen. >> amen. >> amen. >> reporter: for rick perry, it's a question keeps coming up, not whether he's running for president, but whether he's running from a certain president named george w. bush. >> i called him on his birthday. >> reporter: this week, perry told "time" magazine there's no b

perry -- for rick perry >> remember when we were predicting that rudy giuliani and hillary clinton would be the nominees? >> the thing about george herbert walker bush is that he got a republican challenge in pat buchanan, who made him spend time and energy treasury paid by the time he got the nomination, it was not -- >> i am trying to think of mark in cowboy boots at the inaugural. >> looks like gaddafi is finished in libya. >> there is no way back for the gaddafi regime, and many of its key members are on the right. >> i wish i could talk like that. that is william hague, british foreign secretary. looks like the rebels have won. evan, who can take credit? >> everybody will until it turns bad. i been a critic of the obama administration for working -- intervening on this, and it turned out better than anybody expected because gaddafi is gone. there could be civil war that comes out of it, but look, it is better than gaddafi. the west can generally take the credit, a brief people who overthrew him to take credit -- brave people who overthrew him can take credit. >> how about nato? >> t

plus, he's run for president himself and could run for the white house again, rudy giuliani and one of president obama's most trusted moguls and a man with strong opinions who likes nothing better than a good argument, magic man and atheist penn gillette. when you see this economy so badly tanking. >> will you come to praying again? >> praying does help. at least i have a prayer. >> do more. do more. if it helps, do more. you can tell these people are not praying enough. that's what's wrong. >> this is "piers morgan tonight." >> good evening, president obama is out on the trails today blasting republican rivals and urging americans to send a message to congress. he sat down with wolf blitzer for a one-on-one interview. wolf joins me now. wolf, congratulations on your scoop interview. what was the most striking part of it from your point of view? >> at one point we started talking about the tenth anniversary of 9/11. and i'm very worried, piers, i don't know about you, but i'm very worried having studied terrorism in the middle east for a long time that al qaeda elements, whatever is le

only five points separate romney from rudy giuliani and sarah palin, both palin and juliani haven't officiallyr candidacy. texas governor rick perry a favorite but still on the sidelines. >>> candidates for san francisco mayor meanwhile have another debate this evening. it will be their second debate since monday when interim mayor ed lee announced he was running for office. the debate will be at the african-american art and cultural complex starting tonight at 6:00. >>> google is making its mark and this time outside mountain view. the company has inked a deal to lease four sunnyvale buildings that could hold 2900 employees. the new campus would mark google's largest presence outside its home city. google intends to make 2011 its biggest hiring year ever by adding 6,000 employees worldwide. >>> well, coming up, one man's trash is another woman's treasure. >> how an idea once considered foolish is now helping people from the bay area all the way to africa. >>> there is a bull, run! you might want to run, it's coming this way, pahdna! run! >> it's not like the running of the bulls. how police w

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i hear, for example, maybe rudy giuliani is going to get in the race. i think he would be very formidable. by the way, congratulations to tim pawlenty for running a hard race. he's a good person. >> reporter: let's turn to the other republicans who have announced they're running for president: mitt romney, michele bachmann, rick perry. they all opposed the debt ceiling deal. you were on the senate floor during the debate. you criticized republicans who opposed the deal. you called them "tea party hobbits." would you call romney, bachmann and perry tea party "hobbits?" >> what i was talking about, quoting from a "wall street journal" editorial was there was a segment of the republican senators that said we cannot raise the debt limit until we pass a balanced budget amendment to the constitution. the senate would not pass... would not get 67 votes. so in my view, it was unrealistic to tell... you've got to tell the american people the truth. that's one of the reasons why people are mad at town hall meetings. they don't think they're being told the truth.

you find actually with organizations like go proud that's not the case i mean these are really rudy giuliani republicans they're people who are generally supportive of the republican kind of big government and big militarism but who happy with how diverse their yeah the riff there is really that they're you know social agendas different from what the christian right social agenda is and as a result those two groups and fighting it out in sea pac but also there are people who i think i'm trying to present and reframe that whole debate as being something that could be used against libertarians generally and people who are small government who are mind your own business and civil liberties orientated anti war and so the real question i have is whether what you're seeing happen right now with be clear most libertarians as i jump in here to say anti-war it's not so much specifically as i would just put a finer point on that against wars that are in self-defense that's right you know high status of everyone is in favor of self-defense whether it's you know there are a few cents and i wasn't so bec

palin is third in recent primary polls ahead of rudy giuliani who also says he hasn't decided whether to run yet, congressman paul ryan now says he is out for sure. all summer long palin has said she is still thinking. >> still haven't made up my mind yet. still contemplating whether i should jump in there or not. i'm still considering it. >> reporter: she told abc's jake tapper she will announce her decision by the end of september. >> i think just practically speaking that has to be a drop dead time line. >> reporter: her political action committee put out a statement overnight, saying any professional pundit claiming to have inside information regarding governor palin's personal decision is not only wrong but their comments are specifically intended to mislead the american public. take that, karl rove. if she gets into the race she could have new company. sources tell abc news, george pataki is seriously considering jumping in the race as soon as saturday, we're told. >> that's right. he'll be in iowa on saturday. as you mentioned former mayor rudy giuliani seriously considering it

>> rudy giuliani, that's an interesting question. reports that he has said that he's not going to make any kind of a noun announcement on this until after the anniversary of the september 11th attacks. as you know, the tenth anniversary is coming up. rudy giuliani will be very visible during that time. as you remember, he was walking the streets of lower manhattan that morning of september 11th. so i think the giuliani folks would like to see that anniversary pass before they make that final decision. it's going to be interesting to note, randi, that coming up in september in just about a week from now, there's that big debate that's happening in los angeles. a republican debate that's happening that will be rick perry's first debate as a matter of fact. and as you heard earlier today, president obama has scheduled this big address to congress. >> right. >> you know, he's asked for this joint address to congress to talk about his jobs plan. it's supposed to happen on the very same night as that gop debate. never a dull moment. >> no.

rudy giuliani arrived in downtown manhattan just after the second plane hit the south tower.inutes before the hour. two top justice department officials are out after an investigation into this failed gun trafficking scheme known as operation fast and furious. the acting atf chief kenneth nelson will be reassigned after they funneled hundreds of weapons into the hands of dangerous mexican cartels. darrell issa helped lead that investigation. >> there are two things we have to do to wrap up this investigation. we need to get to those responsible which means we needed the discovery and cooperation we haven't been getting. most of what we have we have gotten from third parties who have given it to us at great risk. bill: sir, good morning to you, welcome back to america's newsroom. are you satisfied now? >> absolutely not. there is still a horde of documents. we issued letters and subpoenas to try to secure these documents. we have an oversight responsibility to find out why such a disaster like fast and furious was allowed to happen. bill: how much further do you think this goe

rudy giuliani, who a lot of people think he will not get into this race, at 12%. sarah palin at 12%, and then ron paul and michele bachmann come in after that. a lot of people are looking at this field as brackets. if he can bump out michele bachmann, ron paul, folks like that, he is going to give mitt romney a run for his money. >> we'll have a lot more on this story coming up jim, thank you. let's get to the stomach churning zigs and zags of the stock market. all major inadditions scoring big gains with the dow closing up. talk about a wild ride. at the dow has -- was down more than 600 points on monday, up more than 400 points tuesday, back down more than 500 points yesterday, and now today's 40046 plus surge. poppy harlow of cnn money is joining us now from the new york stock exchange. poppy, is there any explanation why this incredible fluctuation is going on? >> i wish i could gifz you one. all the traders down here on wall street do, too. you had wall street on sale today. buying on the lows today, was the 11th best day effort. the s&p, the nasdaq performed

basically a dead heat with rudy giuliani. sarah palin and congressman ron paul. 12%. d giuliani out of the mix because they are flirting with it but not having campaigns yet at all. look at this. romney at 23%. perry at 18%. paul at 14%. i will grab you a fried twinkie. >> thanks so much. we will talk to you again soon. 11 minutes past the hour. news we are getting out of estonia. breaking story. we are looking into reportedly the shots were fired today at the ministry of defense at the capital of colin estonia. a government spokesperson is saying, in fact, there were shots fired there at the ministry of defense. as they put it, there has been a security incident there. there has been a shooting and security forces are currently involved. we are not certain at this point if the actual defense minister was in the building or is involved in this in any way, shape or form. that's not what we are being told yet. confirming at least through a government spokesperson in estonia shots were fired at the ministry of defense. security forces have responded to it. we will keep a

rudy giuliani doesn't count, not in my book anyway because although he's made millions and millions ofllars in lecture fees all because of 9/11, the guy actually was mayor of new york city during 9/11 and that's a legitimate component of his memoirs as he presents them for sale in the lecture business, no matter how falsely he presents them. but this huckabee thing, yeah, strictly speaking, you know, if you want to be like, you know, a strict constructionist about 9/11 profiteering, mike huckabee is now a 9/11 profiteer. but i, for one, am going to go to bed tonight confident that we live in a country where the parents who actively seek educational supplements for their children are going to aim a little higher than mike huckabee's dvds. and no matter how much former baptist pastor mike huckabee abjectly debases himself to sell his thoroughly stupid dvds, he can only become a 9/11 profiteer if the dvds actually make a profit. i'm betting we live in a country that's better than mike huckabee and won't deliver him a profit for what he's trying to push on 7-year-olds. you go next if you h

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rudy giuliani's numbers were sky high. >> will?en to a guy like roland talking about no perfect candidate. democrats knew that. they dealt with gore and kerry for years. fred thompson was at the top of the charts. rick perry needs to realize somebody could jump it. it could be chris christie or jeb bush. >> john? >> the center is still open with rick perry is at the top of the polls. the problem is the candidates who could shake up the race like paul ryan and mitch daniels have said they will not run. the folks who could shake up the race have decided to wait this one out. still a question mark on sarah palin and rudy giuliani. we will see about that. >> if roland and will jumped in, who's v.p. would you like to be? >> answer it, john. >> i'll have to think about that. i'll do some horse trading. >> you get free health care. >> 20 seconds each. the head of starbucks has led more than 100 other ceos now into promising donation campaigns. who else would we like to see their nose out of the campaign, shall we say? roland? >> how about

mitt romney's announcement was stepped on by palin and rudy giuliani. they made sure they were in new hampshire on the day mr. romney was trying to make a splash with their own announcement. it's like wearing white to someone else's wedding. i'm sorry, did i step on your moment. all the republican candidates trying to make a splash with a good showing in the ames-iowa straw poll will be overshadowed by rick perry making his first appearances in south carolina and new hampshire. the rick perry, soon to be campaign. all though he won't formally say he's running for president, the appearances mean he's running. they do represent the official-unofficial start of his campaign. anybody who sees iowa and the iowa straw poll and pr they might get from doing well in the straw poll as crucial to the campaign, hint, hint, michele bachmann. we'll have more on his candidacy and why it's important in the republican presidential field, we'll have more on that over the course of the week. finally, we have an answer to a campaign finance ministry. ministry, mystery, sor

busting budget plans in the spring is reportedly thinking of getting in and former new york major rudy giulianiie says he's not interested, but uh-huh the buzz about him won't go away. and then there's sarah palin she's been showing up at gop events for months now teasing supporters if she intends to run in 2012. she'll head back to iowa in september. over the weekend sarah pac released this online video just to get everybody in the mood. pailen still isn't saying when she'll decide for sure. but karl rove says her time is running out. >> if she doesn't get in shortly after next week, then i think people are going to basically say she's not in. she won't be in. if she gets in, i'm not going to be for her. you can only tease so many times. >> next month's iowa visit will be palin's second in as many months. we'll be right back. listen to . three out of four americans don't get enough vegetables. so here's five bucks to help you buy v8 juice. five bucks. that's a lot of green. go to v8juice.com for coupons. you can count on us. helps defends against occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas and bloa

former new york mayor and presidential candidate rudy giuliani says he is seriously considering a run. oh, yes. and billionaire donald trump says he would seriously consider a run as an independent. but seriously, folks, one possible candidate made it clear today he is out, wisconsin congressman, paul ryan. oh, darn. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." what dot latest developments in libya mean for president obama in he took heat earlier this year for how he handled the situation. does he now deserve credit for his policies. howard fineman is is editorial director and robin wright is from the u.s. institute of peace and woodrow wilson international center. she also authored a flu book called "rock the casbaah." howard, no u.s. troops on the ground. no u.s. casualties that i'm aware of. is gadhafi fall a vindication for the strategy of leading from behind? >> in this case, yes. i think any fair observers and i've been talking to some of them today would have to say so. he was criticized for not putting more muscle american muscle in the the air or on the ground. but ga

. >> rudy giuliani disagrees with the president on a lot of things. rudy is still considering a run for the white house himself. he joins me now. interesting interview there with wolf bliter and the president. hammering the same drum he is beating all week which it's now all about jobs. clearly all about the economy. he's personally pleading really to the american public to have faith in him. and, yet, at the same time is this battle bus tour. we see his personal approval rating drop below 40% to record lows for him. what's your overview of what the president is up to and where he stands? >> well, i mean my overview is that president is seeing the impact of the results that he's had. i mean he's been president now for three years. he still is trying to blame it on bush. it's not working. i mean three years into it i couldn't blame my problems on my predecessor when i was the mayor. he was elected to straighten out the economy. he made it much worse. and the proof is in the results. when he did the stimulus, he told us we would get unemployment down bel

report that rudy giuliani is hire campaign state in the first in the primary state of new hampshire.hat is not accurate giuliani has not made up his minority -- mind not looking at staff yet. >> shepard: carl cameron with the candidate. watch the republican debate here on the fox news channel tomorrow night in the normal hannity time slot 9:00 eastern 8:00 in oxford. democrats coming up short in the wisconsin recall elections. they won three seats but they needed -- they won two but they needed three to take control of the state senate they so they didn't make it trying to replace republicans who voted for scott walker's law who voted for union rights state workers. democratic lawmakers even left the state to try to prevent a vote. one analyst called wisconsin an example of the political roller coaster the entire country has been on since last november's election. wisconsin democrats say they will try to recall governor walker himself next year. a deepening mystery on the island of aruba. an american woman has disappeared. reportedly, while snorkeling with a man she had met on line.

someone throwing out the name rudy giuliani. but what about vice president for you?number two? >> i love what i'm doing but i'm watching what's happening. the wrong thing happens, things can happen with me. >> we'll see if rob lowe has

i understand the basis there but rudy giuliani is the only one winning against obama in a recent pollwants a more moderate position. >> i'm geding the hard rap. you think mitt romney is a front-runner and you think he's done a great job. both of you have done a great job. >>> we turn to the $50 million lawsuit filed against one of the world's richest men, a soap opera star forming her former boyfriend, claiming he attacked her after he promilessed to buy her an apartment in new york. mike taibbi joins us, after their may december romance fizzled. >> may-december love gone bad, it happens and not something that couldn't be predicted that wouldn't end up in a lawsuit and it has. it's a gold digger looking for a payday or a real promise of the apartments and more importantly whether or not there was a physical assault. here is the background on it, a year ago yesterday, august 11th of last year, there was an argument about this apartment business. she says he promised twice to buy her an apartment, one for $2 million, one for $4 million in the upper east side lux building and broke the p

rudy giuliani leads president obama by six points. 51-45. why he's thinking about getting in this, i guess. the only republican with a lead. the president edges out mitt romney 48-47. we'll be right back. i >>> we're back. american, ready to blame washington for the debt crisis and the s&p downgrade and according to them both parties are equally at fault. plus, mitt romney touting his reign as governor. here it is. under "the washington post," steve mcmahon and pat buchanan. what do you make of the fact romney bragged about the fact that he got better credit rating from the s&p out of massachusetts but never noted the fact he got because they raised taxes in the assembly up there? >> that wouldn't be something he would want to bring up and put out front. perhaps you think that might be advantageous to him, but it wouldn't be, chris. romney will be hit on think, the taxes, the real taxes, were enacted in the governorship before his, which was a democrat, and then he took advantage of that and got the state's credit rating raised, which i thin

after labor day has been the nominee for every election since 1994 other than 2008 when it was rudy giulianis. it may be perry come labor day but the polling of people who consider themselves born again and evangelicals is displaced or misplaced by the fact that a lot of these people care about fiscal issues, too. they are looking at a guy like romney and romneycare in massachusetts and they are thinking he's not our guy. the question is who do i think can beat barack obama. >> you have run campaigns and forget about perry on the issues. just as his performance as a candidate it's hard to do that, but just his performance as a candidate, how do you think he's been so far in this first couple of weeks? >> he's been a good candidate for the evangelicals and a good candidate for iowa and south carolina voters. republic republican. he's doing good on his side of the fence and romney is in a jam. he has to figure out a way to attack him. i think the democrats won't attack perry until this is over. the most democrats i talked to are happy to let him have the bit in his mouth and run. >> both of yo

rudy giuliani leads president obama by six points. 51-45.e's thinking about getting in this, i guess. the only republican with a lead. the president edges out mitt romney 48-47.ht back. i'm robert shapiro. over a million people have discovered how easy it is to use legalzoom for important legal documents. so start your business, protect your family, launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. listen to this. three out of four americans don't get enough vegetables. so here's five bucks to help you buy v8 juice. five bucks. that's a lot of green. go to v8juice.com for coupons. you can count on us. >>> we're back. american, ready to blame washington for the debt crisis and the s&p downgrade and according to them both parties are equally at fault. plus, mitt romney touting his reign as governor. here it is. under "the washington post," steve mcmahon and pat buchanan. what do you make of the fact romney bragged about the fact that he got better credit rating from the s&p out of massachusetts but never noted the fact he got b

the one governor to endorse rudy giuliani's 2008 presidential campaign, rick perry., because ideologically they are far apart, but whether he endorses him down the line, he endorses him. so maybe some of those folks come along. my argument with the race at the moment, i agree with jonathan about the fact that i don't think you'll see any of the top tier people take a shot at perry. i do think huntsman, santorum, gingrich, some of those people might, but rick perry is still in his honeymoon period. the guy announced his campaign august 13. we're not even to the end of august yet, so i think the first month or so you're not going to see anyone take the shots, but that said, september 7 and october 11 or 15, some time in there, rick perry is going to come under serious debate scrutiny. >> i maintain it's early, but i can make the argument mitt romney stands the best chance in a general election. if that's true -- >> no question. >> okay, probably the three of us might agree on that, how would mitt romney make the argument and would the gop base care? we want to get rid

look at a guy like rudy giuliani. the ideal mayor. chris christie in the same skill set.he same thing you want on a national level. what you think about taxes or abortion or war might matter more. >> now, christya what do you make of mike bloomberg's performance? last christmas thought he had blown the snowmageddon. lots of complaints. how do you think he did in this one? >> they say you don't get a do-over in life. i feel this hurricane was the mayor's do-over for the storm and that does explain why new york took precautions above and beyond, and, you know, we can be monday morning quarterbacks and say, well, did the city go too far, but the down side of overpreparing is pretty low. i think new yorkers are probably saying, the man did a good job. >> imogene, a lot of folks obviously, there was overhype nontrivial damage and death involved, folks saying you could have done this without jumping on top of the mountain and sounding the alarm quite the way we did. how do you think the media performs in all this? >> again, they actually did very well. fundamentally a hurricane

of course, rudy giuliani, remember, was the national front-runner -- >> you read my mind. >> -- around this point. >> and hillary clinton, by the way, was the national front-runner far later into the fall in 2007 and we know how that turned out. >> maybe if i'm mitt romney i'm feeling pretty good that you aren't the national front-runner just right now, but what it does do it forces mitt romney to almost abandon the nominee-in-waiting strategy he's had where he's campaigning more against barack obama than he has been about all the other republican presidentials who are in the field right now. >> he really has to your point, mitt romney, people have tried to engage him, republicans, he's avoided it. we've talked about how long he can keep avoiding it. someone asked him yesterday, at a bunch of town halls in new hampshire, are you changing your strategy because rick perry's in the race? let's listen to what he said, and we'll come back and talk about it. >> yeah, you'll try to find something that's changed. i got a dark shirt on yesterday. it was a light shirt yesterday. look, i'm follow