i can't prove that >> can't prove that, that wa rudy giuliani, the face of the big lie.privately downplaying that h knew anything about dominion voting machines. and then there is this conversation, from december 5th, 2020 this is a call between maria bartiromo and trump campaign officials themselves >> or any of the machines, i know it was on war room th other day with steve bannon. have any of the machines bee looked at? he had said that one was looke at in georgia. >> i have to check on that i terms of georgia i know during the audit, the did check on those machines. if we can just go off th record for one second? >> yeah, of course i don't want to say if it's not, that's why we're checking. >> yeah, i would think the have a look at the machines. when the secretary of state di its audit, there was a lot, think a fair bit of looking at the machines the audit came in pretty dar close to what the machine coun was with the receipts. so, i don't know the outcome o those, but our understanding again, this is from th secretary of state's office, was that there weren't any ph

we will fast-forward a bit where rudy giuliani falsely claims the venezuelan ties. >> it was formed, really, five three venezuelans, who were very close to the dictator -- by three venezuelans, who were very close to the dictator, hugo chavez, and it was formed in order to fix elections. that's the company that owns dominion. >> here we have rudy giuliani falsely claiming on air that for & co., dominion -- foreign company founded dominion, intended to fix elections. then we have another infamous election did not and trump supporter on the "lou dobbs tonight" show. here is sidney powell. where dobbs asked what evidence she has a fraud on the 2020 elections. let's listen to her answer. we will just fast-forward it once again. >> your reaction? >> i can hardly wait to put forward all the evidence we have collected on dominion, starting with the fact it was created to produce altered voting results in venezuela for hugo chavez and then shipped internationally to manipulate votes for purchase in other countries, including this one. it was funded by money -- >> here we have sidney powell c

dominion still has defamatio cases against -- rudy giuliani, trump lawye sydney powell, newsmax and o a f. if the evidence against them i those cases is asked wrong a the evidence against fox the the two will be crushed by dominion legally. and forced to pay judge -- settlements that will probably bankrupt them. steven shackleford is right. money is accountability. that is how the civil justic system works in that system, and in tha system alone, money it i accountability that is how lawsuits work. lawsuits are about money the outcome of a lawsuit is no expressed with words lik guilty or not guilty those words never enter lawsuit. it is expressed in amounts o money. and a settlement like this one is the equivalent of a guilt plea in a criminal case. fox knew from the top down, fo knew that is what dominion said in brief file in the case and dominion proved that they prove that in their case. and they proved to the judge i the case that what fox sai about dominion and allowed t be said about dominion was false. the judge accepted a undisputed fact that fox was providing a forum for rud

york, rudy giuliani. only rudy. good good afternoon. once again to the program .we've once again to the program. we've lost him .we've once again to the program. we've lost him . we've lost once again to the program. we've lost him .we've lost him. we've lost him. we've lost him. we've lost him. we've lost him. we've lost him. we will get rudy giuliani back. i'm sure you will. freddie grey, you've spent a lot of time as a journalist in america and the spectator as a magazine making inroads over there . quick question . i sense there. quick question. i sense in this country , even on the in this country, even on the radio four's today program , radio four's today program, there are people saying , you there are people saying, you know, justin webb, people like saying this is overtly political . you know, i said even the bbc are being balanced, whatever they may think of trump as a person, they're rising above that. what's how are american media playing this? well, i think that's i think there's a similar sort of disbelief on channels whe

so, without further ado, thi is rudy giuliani and fox new host, maria bartiromo, talking off air on november 8th, 2020. off air, mr. giuliani seem pretty candid about the fact that he has no evidence that there is anything wrong with dominion voting machines >> i'm going to be asking yo for as much evidence as you ca tell us about these lawsuits whatever you can tell us i terms of evidence, would b really helpful okay, great. >> i can tell you exactly what we have. >> perfect >> and what about the software this dominion software >> that's a little harder. >> seems troubling to tell you right, it's bein analyzed right now i mean, there are a couple o races that have been reverse because the democrat was tripl counted, two already i michigan now whether that applies for the whole state or not, i can' tell you yet >> this dominion software, doe nancy pelosi have an interes in it? >> i've read that. i can't prove that >> can't prove that, that wa rudy giuliani, the face of the big lie. privately downplaying that h knew anything about dominion voting machines. and then there is this conversation,

york, rudy giuliani. only rudy. good good afternoon. once again to the program .we've once again to the program. we've lost him .we've once again to the program. we've lost him . we've lost once again to the program. we've lost him .we've lost him. we've lost him. we've lost him. we've lost him. we've lost him. we've lost him. we will get rudy giuliani back. i'm sure you will. freddie grey, you've spent a lot of time as a journalist in america and the spectator as a magazine making inroads over there . quick question . i sense there. quick question. i sense in this country , even on the in this country, even on the radio four's today program , radio four's today program, there are people saying , you there are people saying, you know, justin webb, people like saying this is overtly political . you know, i said even the bbc are being balanced, whatever they may think of trump as a person, they're rising above that. what's how are american media playing this? well, i think that's i think there's a similar sort of disbelief on channels whe

and it shows that even on that day, bartiromo is still asking for proof from rudy giuliani and importantly giuliani has none, no proof. here's where it gets more complicated for fox. on that exact day bartiromo showcases sidney powell. she has sidney powell on her show and when sidney powell gets on the air, she uses the opportunity on the air to repeat the unfounded claims of dead voters and fraudulent ballots that rudy giuliani has just told bartiromo he has no evidence of. another recording that dates to december 5th of that year, a few weeks later, illustrates ways trump was signaling to fox what might go down on january 6th listen >> we have seen so much reporting, whether it be december 8th or december 14th, and we've seen virtually zero pickup of the january 6th date so realizing that a lot of folks, you know, who probably have normal lives haven't gone through it and looked at the case of hawaii in 1960 and how that went all the way to january 6th and such that's the whole reason why i wanted to chat with you to understand where the real back stops are here. >> the january 6th date

lawsuit, you will want to stay tuned for the next block, we have the audio recordings of rudy giuliani and trum officials and what they were saying privately to the fo news hosts that is coming up in our hour. >> that is a hello vtes, i don't go anywhere. >> stay tuned, brother thanks as always >> roll tape >> roll tape >> roll tape >> roll tape covers everything that could b completely confidential, all the way up to the nuclea codes. just hearing something i classified, doesn't give you a lot to go on in terms of terms of what the actual underlying information is, which is what makes this revelation from "the new york times" today such a big deal. special counsel jack smith is asking witnesses about multiple alleged instances of former president trump showing off a confidential map that contains sensitive intelligence information after he left office for months we have known that president trump took hundreds of classified documents with him when he left the white house, and we've known among those documents were top secret papers that could contain things like sensitive information,

the judge accepted a undisputed fact that fox was providing a forum for rudy giuliani and other trump supporters to lie to fox viewers about dominion votin machines dominion got rupert murdoch to admit under oath that he could have stopped the lying, but he chose not to that was a choice he made. dominion has proved that tucke carlson was lying to his audience about how he felt about donald trump dominion proved all of tha before going to trial. and that is the way it usually works in civil cases because each side and a lawsui gets the right to subpoena witnesses and force them t testify under oath before th trial. and the trial is usually just rerun of what happened in th depositions, what was said i the depositions, and what wa revealed in the document obtained by subpoena in the pr trial discovery process. dominion has been able to make public all of that materia already. and so, in a trial, we wer likely to learn nothing ne that we did not already know and that is common in civi trials rupert murdoch and the fox lawyer's strategy was so harmful to fox because i forced the revelati

discussing dominion with rudy giuliani in the powell in one, giuliani reveals it's been tough to prove allegations that dominion software was used to rig the election. here's part of that conversation. what about this software? this software. that's that's a little harder, troubling to tell you right? it's being being analyzed right now. i mean, there are a couple of races that have been reversed. because the democrat was triple counted two already in michigan. now whether that applies for the whole state or not, i can't tell you yet. but i can't. but i can tell you that. yep. we have more than we have more than enough observed ballots. in michigan area. pennsylvania to overthrow the election. okay perfect. and then did this killing himself for nancy pelosi have an interest in it. i yeah. i've read that. i can't prove that. the recordings were made by former fox news producer abby grossberg and provided to cnn by her attorney . gross work was fired by the network after she sued fox, alleging she was coerced into giving misleading testimony in a deposition for the dominion case out fron

to be fair to fox, they may not have known which embarrassing rudy giuliani tape they were being asked, one where oil is leaking from his head or where he is farting unbuttoning his parents for bragg's daughter. could be when he held a press conference outside a dildo shop? and that we have the other defendant who is being sued by dominion for $1.3 billion and that is mr. my pillow mike lindell, i will tell you does not have $1.3 billion. mike is the genius who uncovered the evil algorithms that spewed the voting machines and even though he is somehow have having trouble with a simple live video stream. >> a couple big announcements to make. are you there? [laughter] i can't hear you. i'm not hearing you this is not good. [laughter] go ahead. brandan? hello? >> jimmy: i guess we don't get to hear the big announcement. the big announcements were he ate a scroll and split his -- and other technological news, the president despite administration's crackdown on artificial intelligence. what has it wants to put measures in place to test these new chatgpt bots although i'm not sure biden eve

"rudy giuliani is insane." how could you leave out the rest? it's "rudy giuliani is insanely hot. that head dye right off." >> ooh-hoo! i mean, who wouldn't? right? and some of the messages they showed at the trial didn't even relate to the lawsuit at all. for example, the texts "mind-blowingly nuts," "off the rails," and "f'ing lunatic" were all sent in response to laura ingraham's text, "what should i put in my tinder bio?" >> hey, you go, girl. it's hard out there. >> uh-huh, okay. alright. we have a special guest whose appearances on fox were heavily featured in the trial. he's a fox news staple and happens to be our number-one advertiser. it's mypillow's mike lindell. >> hello, ainsley and the guys. i'm down at cpac right now, and it is an absolute blast. i was just over at the biden dunk tank. it's not the real biden you dunk, but the actor is just as old, so you never know if he's coming back up. there's real risk there. >> that's great. well, we're glad to have you on, but because of this lawsuit, our lawyers have asked that you please don't say anything crazy about domini

the fo news host, maria bartiromo talking with former presiden trump's lawyers, cindy powel and rudy giuliani turne over only a week ago judge eric davies also said, quote, he would very likel appoint a special master t investigate whether foxe lawyers missed handled o withheld material. joining me now is someone wh is inside the courtroom today, eric - the media critic for the washington post. who is covering the trial. eric, i was following your dispatches from inside the court today, we'll get to that that ruling. before we get to that, i sounded like the judge reall let the fox lawyer, dan webb who's a sort of famous legendary litigator, have it today in that courtroom. what was that about? >> well, there were two days o pretrial hearings, yesterday and today. and honestly, you know, judg eric davis has spent the pas two days scolding the entire fox news legal team, in one wa or another today, was particularly, i would say, stringent particularly acute he was very upset with the fox news team, because of evidence that had merged, they did no share the actual title o rupert murdoch, the fo

having said that i mean how do you rate the peril that potentially john eastman and rudy giuliani may be in given what the vice president is saying and the fact he testified in front of a grand jury and is likely to have talked about those bad lawyers? >> i think you can see a lot of ways in which the prosecutors are looking very closely at people like john eastman and rudy giuliani. that's clear. i think mike pence is another avenue of gathering that kind of evidence, and so i think that is important. but i also think what pence said in that clip is important in this sense. i don't necessarily think of mike pence as -- i don't assume that evidence is particularly damaging to donald trump. mike pence may even as a witness try to help donald trump. but i think the experience of mike pence overall is important evidence for the entirety of this case and the entirety of what prosecutors have to decide as to whether there are criminal charges here. >> do you think, devlo nchg, what pence says behind closed doors is eventually going to come out? assuming there is -- that there's eventual pr

when rudy giuliani came in as the mayor of new york, 1,900 plus people a year were being murdered in the streets. it was a freaking war zone. there are people alive today because of a change in the defunds the police wrap mentality to we are going to enforce the lawmen talt. they know this stuff doesn't work. even though the body bags pile up, they do it anyway. >> there was no statistical data academics or politicians could show us that bail reform would work and they did it anyway. and they pitched this that it would help the minority community. the sad part about all of this is we can stop this violent crime epidemic that's sweeping our country. we know what works. let's embrace broken windows theories and vehemently prosecute them and hold them accountable for their actions. we are getting to the point where we are not going to be turn around. it will take a generation to clean up our cities. dan: it's an open book test. they have the answers in front of them. i told you the police state is here. right now. a retired air marshal is here to sounds the alarm and how the biden admin

having said that, i mean, ho do you rate the peril th potentially john eastman and rudy giuliani may, given what the vice president saying in fact that he testified in front of a grand jury and is likely to have talked abou those bad lawyers? >> i think could see a lot o ways in which the prosecutor are looking closely at peopl like john eastman and rudy giuliani that's clear i think mike pence is anothe avenue of gathering that kin of evidence. so i think that is important but i also think what penc said in that clip is important in this sense. i don't necessarily think of mike pence as, i don't assum that that evidence i particularly damaging to donal trump. mike pence may even, as witness, try to help donal trump. but i think the experience o mike pence, overall, i important evidence for the entirety of this case, and the entirety of what prosecutors have to decide, as to whethe there are criminal charges here >> do you think, devlin, tha what pence is behind close doors, is eventually going t come out assuming, i suppose if there i eventual prosecution, there's high likelihood th

out for some kind of subpoena for her to turn these -- >> jack smith is looking at it to see if rudy giulianing about january 6th? this is about the planning for january 6th, he thinks? the >> question that he is looking at is the interference in the transfer of power. so, giuliani and sidney powell, they were -- the lawsuits. but i think the question here is, what were they saying publicly and arguing and what were they saying privately? so, potentially, what were they even saying to the former president? because the question is, what did he know? what was his intent when he was doing this. and one rationalization people have said is, he might have really believed his attorneys. because rudy giuliani was a u.s. attorney in new york. he was a very substantial lawyer. so, if trump really believed them, that is one thing. and that's a good defense for him. but if they knew and were having conversations that this was not true, that is a tougher defense for him. >> do you think they were trying to get his hands on their tape before this lawsuit played out? or do you think dominion kind of opened

he's fully aware of the efforts, with regard to the fraudulen electors, and sort o implicating rudy giuliani as well i think one thing to remembe about it is that it's such a unusual situation for a lawyer a legal adviser, to have his phone seized and the amount of time, as you were saying -- it could take just to go through the evidence and the phone in and of itself could take a long time - he does not seem like a man wh is a verse to talking. he may feel he can sort of tal his way around issues. he obviously could be assertin at times attorney-client privilege. but -- that long it certainly doesn't sound like he's making a blanket assertion. >> yeah, let's talk about th phone for a moment the fact that the fbi ha epshteyn's phone is pretty significant, i would say, give the fact that he, in som capacity, was a lawyer in th trump world. how does that change things fo him? they have his phone or perhaps were able to access it and obviously recover it, mayb juxtapose what they are able t see on the phone with what the are questioning him about -- >> it really gives him a outline to go throug

. >> all under the leadership of rudy giuliani.le watched that interview, including prosecutors in georgia, wh quickly subpoenas epshteyn ove his direct involvement wit this fake elector plot and two weeks later, the fbi seized his phone and all of this context is actually important because yesterday federal prosecutor in the special counsel's off us they interviewed epshteyn for multiple hours abc news reported that, quote, the interview was largel focused on efforts by trump an his allies to overturn trump's 2020 election loss now, with even more revealin about this interview as ab reports that special counsel jack smith actually sat himsel in on a portion of the interview. that's not common. and it's sort of a big deal. you know what else is also a big deal today, boris epshtey reportedly went back in for second day of questioning. considering that the fbi tha -- epshteyn has epshteyn phone -- another possibility is that da two of questioning is focuse on the mar-a-lago investigatio in which epshteyn also played key role joining

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quote, in one of the recordings from november 8th, 2020, maria bartiromo asks rudy giuliani about the dominion software. he says this, quote, it's being analyzed right now when she asks him about a false connection to nancy pelosi, giuliani says, quote, yeah, i've read that. i can't move that yet. i can't prove that yet, or ever. and now just moments before we came on the air, bloomberg news is reporting that rupert murdoch himself could take the stand in this trial as early as monday. b bloomberg's reporting goes like this rupert murdoch is expected to be called to the witness stand in the dominion voting system's defamation lawsuit against his company as soon as monday. that is according to people familiar with the matter murdoch would be the second witness called, people said, meaning he would likely testify on monday or tuesday bombshell legal developments in this dominion $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against fox news is where we begin with some of our favorite reporters and friends. as we mentioned, "new york times" political reporter and msnbc contributor, jeremy peters is he

to settle in, you know, against newsmax or some of the actual, you know, players in this the rudy giuliani's in the mike lindell's i mean, i don't even know that they be capable of selling. i don't know how much money those guys have. yeah i wouldn't think so. anderson i think maybe because there has been some fall out on on the media's part with respect to dominion not going through with the whole trial here and not insisting on an apology that they may be motivated to see at least some of those cases through to the end, or at least flues, full throated retractions by the giuliani's powell's and newsmax is of the world, but i don't know. i think it's an important point to make here that the law of definition is not about accountability. it is not about justice, pr folks that dominion who have been feeding those lines. typical lawyers who by the way did a fantastic job in litigating this case need to recognize that the law of defamation is about compensating. people and entities for injury to their reputation, and that's how this case ended and how it should have ended. dominion got compensa

questions like, do you personally know or have an opinion on rudy giuliani? sidney powell? mike lindell, the pillow guy? have you ever served as an election judge or volunteered at a polling place? have you ever had any capacity in connection with the 2020 election? besides voting? what do you make of those? what do you read into that typical jury questions that you would ask in a case like this because you you want to get somebody. obviously everybody's heard of the election and donald trump and rudy giuliani, etcetera and fox news. but you want to take it out people who are going to be biased, one way or another. you really just looking for people who are fair and impartial. and so those are the types of questions you would ask jurors to try and weed out the ones that have an agenda or have a bias. john what are your thoughts when you hear a tape like this? where you know, people don't necessarily know they're being recorded, and they're having a candid conversation. you see something where this now in and of itself has meaning, but when you match it with the other things

former president you know adviser rudy giuliani, sidney powell. mike lindell does today's settlement affect those proceedings to those continue on. yes no, anderson. you're absolutely right. we actually have another case against newsmax in this very courthouse before the very same judge as the judge. that's over that oversaw the fox news case. um i think what impacts those are actually the victories that you've seen and reported on along the way, the conclusion that the statements were false conclusions about what the first amendment does and does not protect the conclusions about the neutral report. all of those decisions will have a huge bearing on those other lawsuits as they play out in courts here and in the district of columbia. brooke i really appreciate your time today. congratulations on the settlement. thank you. we're joined by at least. levin, retired first amendment attorney represented both cnn and fox in the past and many other major media organizations in his distinguished career and cnn senior legal analyst elie honig , former ass

we fought through, we fought during the 1990s to bring back new york under rudy giuliani.e made it one of the safest cities in the country. now we are losing it. >> pete: are there other democrats who are either openly or secretly being introspective about the deals they have made with the far left saying we really do have to bring law and order? there is a few that are moderates and need that in new york city. hour, there is many on the progressive side that just won't admit it. but they want public safety but they are just playing to the theater of the progressives. >> pete: they probably do have security they probably live in nicer neighborhoods and maybe -- just, is there a point at which a city completely controlled by democrats and i realize there is a spectrum of democrats, suddenly says enough is enough, we have to have basic just safety for people? i think unlike mayor de blasio who is a disaster, eric adams is trying. is he a law and order guy. >> do you think so? i had a lot of hope in him but it feels like kind two of sides of a coin sometimes. >> i agree. and

and donald trump and rudy giuliani, etcetera and fox news, but you want to take it out people who areo be biased one way or another. you're really just looking for people who are fair and impartial. and so those are the types of questions you would ask jurors to try and weed out the ones that have an agenda or have a bias. john, what are your thoughts when you hear a tape like this? where, um, you know, people. you don't necessarily know they're being recorded, and they're having a candid conversation. you see something where this now in and of itself has meaning, but when you match it with the other things, you know that oliver has told us about which is there are emails where fox executives are saying , we've got to stop with this fake elections stalls stolen stuff for dominion voting machines stuff. there's one from abby grossberg, who supplies this tape. um after this show where they have sidney powell, the lawyer on where she sends a message saying, we're not doing any fact checking on this on today's broadcast when you marry all these things together, you know, they raise a ques

it had moved from the oval office up to the white house residence late on the night of the 18th rudy giuliani and joined the meeting late and started talking about a plan to voluntarily access the machines. rudy was against -- excuse me, mr. giuliani was againsted concept of seizing the machines, having the military seize the machines, but he assured the president that there was another plan that he had in the works and that was to get the machines voluntarily. and as you see in that letter that you cited at the beginning of the segment, through this litigation in georgia some details about what actually happened in georgia have come out. and there's videotape showing that georgia election officials allowed trump allies to access the machines, seize the hard drives and those hard drives have been disseminated, as one memo on the subject says, in the wild so that's the aspect of the scheme that mr. lyons was referring to mr. powell -- excuse me, ms. powell and mr. giuliani spoke a little bit about it but we're fairly confident that at that meeting that topic was brought up in front of the pres

because epshtey himself is entangled in both those investigations back in 2020, epshteyn helpe rudy giulianid he confirmed that much t my colleague, harry melber >> there's been reports abou the attempts to seat fraudulen electors is that something you ever worked on or what support fo example in michigan? >> yes, i was part of th process to make sure they were alternate electors for when as we, hope the challenges to the seeded electors will be heard, and successful >> epshteyn played a key rol in the production of a statement for federa investigators, a statement signed by trump lawyer christina bobb last summer that said to the best of mis bobb's knowledge, donald trump did not have any classifie documents left in his position down at mar-a-lago that statement turned out to b false. two months after miss bobb signed the compliment. the fbi found another 100 or s highly up -- on the premises miss bobb late told the lawyers that it was boris epshteyn, that putter in contact with evan corcoran who was the trump lawyer tha drafted the statement in the first place. now all of this is extremely

. >> reporter: dominion alleges fox intentionally allowed attorney sidney powell, rudy giuliani -- >>olen election. >> reporter: -- and others supporting trump to make false statements about dominion. >> the dominion software system has been tagged as one allegedly capable of flipping votes. >> the supreme court has said what is not protected by the first amendment is the knowing falsehood, the calculated lie. >> reporter: dominion has already begun making its case in public, releasing texts and other communications obtained but litigation like this on yox chief political correspondent bret baier on november 5th. "there is no evidence of fraud. none." yet three days later -- >> potentially a stolen election. >> reporter: his colleague maria bartiromo interviewed attorney powell, who falsely claimed she had proof that dominion had rigged the election. >> they also used an algorithm to calculate the votes they would need to flip. >> reporter: part of the proof provided by powell according to court documents? an e-mail from a woman who said she gained information from speaking to the win

this is the next night, on december 6th, 2020, interviewing rudy giuliani. here's what that conversation sounded like >> rudy, this is pretty extraordinary. and obviously, these are very, very serious charges how come the media does not report that you have this evidence i mean, we're looking at the videos of people pulling ballots out from under a table we're looking at the affidavits that you are presenting, yet, the "wall street journal" this morning, the title, trump uses rally for georgia senate candidates to push unsupported claims of voting fraud >> so rudy on a phone call november 8th says i'm not sure we're there yet to tell you definitively what's going on the trump campaign says to fox news, we don't really have it, but theniromo goes o the air anyway it sounds like a slam dunk case. >> it's a first amendment issue in some ways because fox news is a journalistic organization. under the law, it's a public figure, you're only liable for defamation if one, the statement is false, and b, you know it's false and still say it or you're recklessly disreg

someone at fox could have said to the people hosting thei shows, you can that rudy giuliani let tellthe end of it all you hav to say is, if that's true, thi is a terrible situation or we're gonna have to do something about it and fox never could have bee sued because the host would hav said, if that's true those are the legal safe words that save you $787 million, an everyone working at fox was to stupid to know those legal saf words. rupert murdoch was too stupi to tell his people to use thos legal safe words and so fox lost. and truth one. up next, there is much mor legal trouble ahead for fo because of the corporate malfeasance involved by rupert murdoch and others, yale business professor jeffrey seinfeld will tell us that next th new olay hyaluronic body wash 95% of women had visibly-better skin. "my skin is so much more moisturized." see the difference with olay. (water splashing) hey, dad... hum... what's the ocean like? uh... you were made to remember some days forever. we were made to help you find the best way there. >> woman: why did we choose safelite? we were loading our

they know about rudy giuliani. they know about shenanigans. how distracting has all of that been as you have tried to deliver a message, a more forward positive message of the stress of ukraine right now? has the hunter biden stuff and a problem for you? ambassador markarova: it depends on who you talk to. if you talk to the business community, clearly they have a much better understanding about ukraine. they know more about ukraine. we were able to put it on the focus. people read and see more information. if you touch ordinary people, the sport of ukraine has been enormous. -- the support of has been enormous. there was massive russian propaganda which was everywhere in the west. not only during the wartime. not only during the past nine years but also before that. since we have regained our independence in 1991, russia pursued it always as the biggest problem for them. they started putting out these narratives of us as a failed state. we are most corrupt. not to say that part of that was not true but we have a fraction of russian corruption

against the right wing networks and newsmax as well as against allies of the former president rudy giulianimike lindell and sidney powell. in a moment, we're going to talk to former fox anchor gretchen carlson in her first interview since the settlement, but before we do, it is worth noting that fox is legal jeopardy is far from over the voting technology companies. smartmatic is suing the network for $2.7 billion for they say were over 100 false and misleading on your statement. it's about them. fox also faces the very real possibility of lawsuits from shareholders, which will explain more about in a moment prefers former fox anchor gretchen carlson, who reached a $20 million settlement with fox's parent company after alleging sexual harassment and retaliation. thank you so much for being with us. thanks for having me on you surprised by the settlement. no i was surprised that it went on as long as it did went up to up to date of the trial. i'm not a lawyer. i did take the l sets, but i feel like i'm sort of a half lawyer after everything i've been through and the one thing you learn is th

rudy giuliani admitting to a fox host in private that he wouldn't be able to prove the election claims on air, and he got to make them any way there is a tape of a campaign official actually saying they had no issues with dominion voting machines. >> are any of the machines -- i know it was on "war room" the other day with steve bannon. have any of the machines been looked at? he had said one had been looked at in georgia. >> ah, i'd have to check on that in terms of georgia. i know during the audit, they did check on those machines. if we could just go off the record for one s.e.c. here >> yeah, sure. i don't want us to say it if it's not happening. >> do i don't know the outcome of those, but my understanding, again this is from the secretary of state's office, is that there were no issues on those machines from inspection. >> that's what fact-checking sounds like. we have a lot of hardworking people here who do a lot of calls like that. one difference under scrutiny and is the definition in this case, they did the fact-checking and told the lie any way, which is worse than if you we

audio recordings of previously unaired conversations between bartiromo and then trump attorneys rudy giuliani sidney powell were made public after being played in court. giuliani and powell, two of the most vociferous promoters of election lies, observed ballots. in michigan area in pennsylvania to overthrow the election. okay perfect discovery process has already been bruising for fox, with rupert murdoch saying under oath of the election denialism on fox. i would have liked us to be stronger in denouncing it. in hindsight with rupert murdoch. he is where the entire organization rots from confessed. in the deposition that he could have stopped this madness, but he chose not to. that's a tremendously incriminating, um, comment at least journalistically, fox says it hasn't defamed anyone and says the dominion suit is a breach of its first amendment rights. fox news is not the only entity that dominion is going after regarding misinformation following the 2020 election. dominion has also filed suit against trump ally and my pillow ceo mike lindell against former trump attorneys rudy giuliani an

over audio recordings of phone calls made by fox news producer, abby grossberg, which featured rudy giuliani and other trump campaign staffers. in a statement, fox news said as counsel explained to the court, fox produced the supplemental information from pms. grossberg when we first heard. those could have legal implications for the case. jeremy peters is a reporter for the "new york times" who has been covering the story extensively. shan wu, a former federal prosecutor jeremy, the judge's sanction gives dominion the chance to conduct another deposition at fox's expense. give us the background on what happens now? >> so this goes to trial on monday, and there's really not a whole lot of time for dominion to gather new information ahead of the trial and once they get going, it will be even harder so i don't know that dominion has yet decided to avail themselves of this opportunity the judge has given them it's significant for another reason in that it shows that the judge has really reached the ends of the limits of his patience with fox. and he's scolded them numerous times throughout the

someone at fox could have said to the people hosting thei shows, you can that rudy giuliani let tell wants as long as he wants an at the end of it all you hav to say is, if that's true, thi is a terrible situation or we're gonna have to do something about it and fox never could have bee sued because the host would hav said, if that's true those are the legal safe words that save you $787 million, an everyone working at fox was to stupid to know those legal saf words. rupert murdoch was too stupi to tell his people to use thos legal safe words and so fox lost. and truth wo up next, there is much mor legal trouble ahead for fo because of the corporate malfeasance involved by rupert murdoch and others, yale business professor jeffrey sonnenfeld will tell us that story next unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. when it comes to reducing sugar in your family's diet, the more choices, the better. that's why america's beverage companies are working together to deliver more great tasting op

our good friend, rudy giuliani who knows a thing or two about the manhattan da's office, let's take ai this is going to play out for a great the rate - for a once great distric attorney's office. the man's his own man, georg soros's man. and he is a man serving th communists and he is a man that has the lives and bloods of a lot of new yorkers on his hands for the failure to follo results. >> we don't commonly run a lot of rudy giuliani clips on th show because it is all a littl bit nuts but, to the extent, that there is just lots of ways t discredit alvin bragg an george soros in the same sentence it becomes dangerous he is a great district attorney's office run by a source purchased prosecutor. again, the implications in their continue to sound little bit more than what they are. >> right, firstly, it is deepl insulting to alvin bragg, wh is a very experience prosecutor who has actually wa elected and is entirel credible to make these decisions himself, secondly, i just shows you how absurd this goes back to the protocols tha they designed. these anti-semitic stereotypes are. on the

by the way, rudy giuliani if he's not bankrupted by all the lies he told, i'll be shocked.ews is going back to donald trump they're going back and the party going back to donald trump, this is the political equivalent of like a heroin addict that keeps going back to what kills them politically. all you can do from a distance, especially as a former member, you just look and go my god, my god, what's happened to them >> well, one of the great existential questions of our time it's almost a decade now who would have thought when that guy came down the escalator back in 2015 that we'd still be talking a decade later about him. the conservative universe that i grew up covering, you think about that whole ecosystem of the heritage foundation, the american enterprise institute, the cato foundation. al and the media also, all these things that created the thriving ecosystem that the right was built on, the conservative political movement was built on, all of it lies in ruins now. it's kind of this post apocalyptic landscape where all of these institutions have been reduced to mean

many of the networks hosts and guests, including trump's former lawyers , sidney powell and rudy giuliani, offering up outlandish allegations smartmatic. which is a company that was founded in 2005 in venezuela. for the specific purpose of fixing elections. well that's the company that was counting and calculating on election night and they did all their old tricks. they stopped it. they also switch votes around. we know that one of the smartmatic people has, um, went to tarrant county, texas, and turned that county blue and all of a sudden this one election, tarrant county is purportedly blue. we have evidence of how they flip the votes, how it was designed to flip the votes by february, 2021 after demanding fox retracted statements, smartmatic had had enough. the company filed a $2.7 billion lawsuit against the fox corporation host lou dobbs, maria bartiromo and janine pirro were also named in the suit. along with giuliani and powell. powell has since been dismissed from the case. in the nearly 300 page complaint. smartmatic alleges fox news knowingly made over 100 false and misleading

. >> reporter: -- as fox hosts and their frequent guests, trump lawyer sidney powell and rudy giuliani aired false claims following the election. text messages show tucker carlson saying powell is lying and laura ingraham saying that sidney is a complete nut. >> i think it could be very damaging to fox's stars or to fox's big-name executives, including and especially the murdochs, to have to testify. >> reporter: dominion's lawyers will argue fox was worried about losing viewership and purposely let the false fraud claims continue on-air. but proving defamation requires overwhelming evidence. >> what you're dealing with is a high bar, and it should be a high bar for the simple reason that we want freedom of the press. >> reporter: a final round of jury selection is set for tomorrow morning followed by opening statements unless there is a last-minute settlement. norah. >> scott macfarlane, thank you. >>> we want to turn now to three americans missing at sea for nearly two weeks. a desperate search is under way by the mexican navy and u.s. coast guard. cbs's elise preston has new details

. >> where's rudy giuliani >> that's a very good question, absent from all of this.akeup meltdown anywhere on television, but i don't think that he's viewed now as an effective spokesperson for trump and has been kind of, you know -- >> marginalized. >> marginalized, out of the loop there will as this indicates, emerge some fresh legal names. trump his entire career has relied on armies of lawyers. i would get paid in advance if i were one of these attorneys. there will be new stars, new people to talk about him and defend him we're seeing some of that and figures like rudy giuliani who were associated with earlier periods may fade away. >> one thing we can be sure of is that george conway will not be on his legal team. >> i would not imagine conway would do that being not a fan of the former president. >> we keep talking about the former president being immune, so far, thus far from many of the different controversies that have swirled around him including legal up until this point. has his business been immune do we know have those investigations into what his earn

criminal defense lawyer who once represented former trump campaign manager paul manafort and a rudy giuliani> robert costa, thank you very much. >>> the unprecedented nature of the trump indictment has the nypd, one of the world's largest police departments, out in full force. cbs's jeff pegues reports federal and state law enforcement are also on hand. >> reporter: with the former president's arrival here in new york, the city is on high alert tonight. trump tower, the 58-story building in the heart of one of the world's most famous avenues, is all but surrounded by security barricades, swamped by police and secret service. police tell us there are no specific or credible threats, but they are prepared for violence. there are about 35,000 police officers in uniform in the city right now, ready to deploy if there are problems. >> there may be some rabble rousers thinking about coming to our city tomorrow.agis clear an. ntrol yourselves >> reporter: investigato from the fbi, nypd, and secret service are combing through social media for any possible plots similar to the january 6th attack. the