think that's the key question just to take a page from the federal indictment, which identifies rudy giuliani running with donald trump in arizona to overturn the popular vote and the popular vote the federal indictment says, giuliani and trump quote, made knowingly false claims of election fraud aimed at interfering with the ascertainment and voting by an arizona's electors, end quote, when they're on the call with rusty bowers, the republican head of the arizona legislature rudy giuliani, as a coconspirator of donald trump. but here in the arizona indictment, donald trump is left out. that's a huge question. >> hi, what do you make of that? i mean, it's very clear here, page 21, unindicted coconspirator number one, right can i just read the description here? a former president of the united states who spread false claims of election fraud following the 2020 election there's a jeopardy question, right sorry who is unindicted coconspirator number one, what do you make of that? so i think the distinction may be having not had sufficient time to be certain to this, but i think the distinction m

. >> on wednesday, an arizona grand jury indicted rudy giuliani and other members of tr trump's inner circle. stephen richer is a top election official in the state. himself a republican who took office in january of 2021 as election lies hit overdrive. as recorder of maricopa county, one of the country's largest voting jurisdictions, richer refused to say trump had won. >> i doubt anyone in the country has looked at the 2020 election in arizona more than i have, and it checks out 100%. >> his defense of the integrity of arizona's elections led to death threats, a censure from the gop, and a lawsuit from kari lake. and the arizona gop dismisses the new indictment as a blatant abuse of power, what does maricopa county reporter stephen richer say now? >> "firing line with margaret hoover" is made in possible in part by robert grenari, vanessa and henry cornell, the tenner foundation, peter and mary calico, the azdaz family foundation, the ma kenna family foundation, the eric and wenny schmitt fund for strategic innovation, and by the following -- corporate funding is provided by stevens

look at the charges against somebody like a rudy giuliani. rudy is unindicted co- conspirator in georgia. he is an unindicted co- conspirator in d.c. is unindicted co-conspirator in arizona, and unindicted co- conspirator in michigan based on the new reporting. he has his law license suspended in new york and d.c. pending disbarment. he owes the election workers $148 million. how much more pressure can some of these people take before they decide okay, i'm going to give up the ghost. it's time for me to cooperate. jenna ellis, i think is an interesting one because she pleaded guilty down in georgia. now she pops up is unindicted co-conspirator in arizona. usually, defendants like to resolve their cases globally. they like to plead guilty and all of their cases so they can get as much benefit with the prosecution -- >> maybe she didn't see this one coming. >> maybe but i would've thought she would have because chas broke cooperated down in georgia and he is probably cooperating in arizona. that's why i need the diagram. it is hard to make thes

so i think we can make a sort of logical assumption that the mayor is probably rudy giuliani. r reaction to that apparent update that one of the redacted defendants is called the mayor. >> makes perfect sense that giuliani would be one of the defendants in this case because he was arguably the quarterback of the legal strategy that had multiple parts, including the fake electors. he was on the phone with people in various states encouraging them to submit these fake electors. he is putting pressure on republican state officials and ultimately members of congress. he is the sort of designated primary legal advocate for this scheme. president trump himself, it's important to keep in mind, we developed a lot of evidence of his personal role in discussions of and encouragement of the submission of these fake elector certificates. we had evidence of a call with ronna mcdaniel to some republican officials in michigan encouraging them to submit these certificates. obviously you have the georgia matter where that infamous phone call with secretary raffensperger. in arizona i know he ha

rudy giuliani, who was u.s.alous prosecutor. a number of his cases fell apart because he pushed the limits of a law, and some of them, particularly his white collar wall street cases, he is a tough, aggressive person. he has always been that person. i think in trump's orbit, the people who come into there have their own, i think, instincts to grift, to bend the rules of the law. trump spots that in people, and surrounds himself with a group of people willing to do that. michael cohen, rudy giuliani, or david pecker, we could go on and on down the list. what they all end up finding ultimately is it's a one way street in terms of loyalty. trump doesn't usually head out of his way to support them once trouble arrives. >> the other thing you can't ignore is he has been completely unapologetic about catch and kill, the way checkbook journalism and i don't like to say that because it's not journalism, but the way his newspaper, whatever you want to call it operated, but is it crucial in some ways to the prosecution ca

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rudy giuliani was at the white house that time. i was at the white house. where did you learn it would be on the white house grounds like he knew what was going on. the jury is going to have have to make a decision based on the evidence. stay here in the courtroom. and that's a linchpin of our system of law and order. it's a linchpin of our courts. it's a lynchpin of the constitution i think what rudy giuliani may or may not have said years ago really doesn't bear on this case the facts are the facts and i think the truth is on our side. >> but how do you dispute what his own attorney at the time was saying, i guess is my question. i'm not >> push back on that, caitlin, i'm not familiar with the statements in question but i do know what the facts are in this case and michael cohen was one of president trump's lawyers. payments to michael cohen were booked as legal retainer payments. whether that's an accurate or not is ultimately going to be a question. for the jury. i don't believe those were inaccurate recordings, and i also don't believe that trump perso

it's rudy giuliani. it's mark meadows, mike roman, jenna ellis, john eastman, or it's epstein and it's the 1927 yankees of bogus election fraud essentially at the center is one man unindicted coconspirator number one, also known as donald trump, the former president of the united states. now, the arizona indictment is yet another blockbuster moment in a post-presidency that has been historic for all the wrong reasons. and it's not the only time today in a remarkable turn of deja vu that we learned that the former president it could have been charged with crimes and a swing state where he tried to deny the will of the voters in michigan and investigator identified today the trump was also an unindicted coconspirator in the alleged plot to change the 2020 election cnn legal analysts, eliot william is at the magic wall to explain more about what exactly is in this arizona case, elliott sure. >> and let's take a look at it, abby. thanks a lot. and so this here is the indictment walking through charges at nin

the indictment alleges that rudy giuliani, mark meadows, borse epstein, who is a close adviser to the former president. president. they all work together with these fake electors from arizona to deceive the people in the voters here. and look, these are serious crimes and perhaps even more expansive than what we were expecting. we've reported previously that the attorney general here seem to be focused primarily on the electors themselves as 11 who were charged. today, in addition to the trump allies. but the indictment does really reflect like how this investigation has expanded over just the last several months we did have reporting that indicated that was the case, that they were looking into people from trump's natural campaign, from people in trump's inner orbit. but and you can't get much more inner orbit. and rudy giuliani, mark meadows, as far as that timeframe where donald trump was trying to overturn the 2020 election so look, this is the latest and the most recent state-level investigation to bring criminal charges for actions related to 2020 election. and in fact, it may b

i mean what do you make of the fact that rudy giuliani, mark meadows, boris epshteyn, christina bob. they're all indicted here. but donald trump is not yeah, i have not had time to read through it. >> it's a bit curious because this is the first indictment that has been brought trump is not, i guess michigan but yeah, he was indicted. george obviously. correct. along with everybody else i don't i don't know. i i don't i'm not sure on that one. >> you mentioned the supreme court, the hearing tomorrow on immunity. it's really remarkable because what trump is basically arguing is that he's covered because what he was doing to try to overturn the election, they argue were official acts i mean, when you look at that, his lawyers were say, he's just doing his job. but is that how you saw it when you are inside the white house that trump is fulfilling the duties of the president at that no from the moment that mr. biden now president biden was declared the winner. i felt strongly that he did win the election. he want it fairly and a lot of my former colleagues, i believe, also felt the same

and rudy giuliani and mark meadows, as far as that timeframe where donald trump was trying to overturn the 2020 election look, this is the latest and the most recent state-level investigation to bring criminal charges for actions related to 2020 election. and in fact, it may perhaps the most serious state-level indictment that we've seen so far, maybe comparable with what we've seen in georgia. but yes, donald trump also named as an unindicted coconspirator in this case, as part of this alleged conspiracy what so what comes next you anderson wolf start to see initial appearances these indicted individuals will happen have to show up in court and be arraigned. and then we will also start to see after that some potential plea deals will start to see people close to the president, perhaps talk to prosecutors, be offered an opportunity to play out how similar to what we've seen in the georgia case as well. and i want to note too, because horus epstein, who is a close adviser to the former president, he worked on the president campaign in 2020 instrumental to this effort to overturn the 202

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host: what about rudy giuliani and other lawyers? guest: i saw claims that i can confidently say came through sidney powell. she was hoping to push a mathematical theory to prove voter fraud, and that was wrong. i saw a claim that life and able to piece together and pretty sure came from john eastman with 16,002 pickett votes in nevada. this is a pattern. all the numbers were hyperinflated because the people who did the analysis didn't understand what they were looking at and they didn't understand how to make >> your book, "disproven." it is your turn to ask questions and have ken block respond. he is our guest this morning. before we get to calls, which states did you focus on in this book? guest: georgia, arizona, nevada, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania. host: in point pleasant beach, good morning to you. caller: i have seen you on tv. there is nothing you can say about the seven states you are talking about, they changed their laws unconstitutionally. you cannot tell me that is not right. rudy giuliani had affidavits from poll

people like rudy giuliani, the lawyers, they are all staffed to somebody who is the president. but it is unclear what the lack of proof is. for sure it is because they don't have enough direct evidence yet against him. but it is important to note that i stress the word yet. these are state charges regardless of who wins the presidential election. whether it is biden or trump, it doesn't matter because you cannot have a federal pardon of these cases. so these people are going to be going to trial in arizona. what tim is saying so people understand this is no joke. these charges prove this is what you see in like petty banana republics. this is fundamentally undermining what it means to be a democracy. absolutely undermining the votes in these states where the idea is whoever won, that doesn't matter. the democracy is not going to apply. this could not be a greater threat to this country over its entire history. >> we are going to squeeze in a quick break with much more on this when we come back including information reported about the grand jury that issued this indictment. we'l

host: what about rudy giuliani and other lawyers? guest: i saw claims that i can confidently say came through sidney powell. she was hoping to push a mathematical theory to prove voter fraud, and that was wrong. i saw a claim that life and able to piece together and pretty sure came from john eastman with 16,002 pickett votes in nevada. this is a pattern. all the numbers were hyperinflated because the people who did the analysis didn't understand what they were looking at and they didn't understand how to make >> your book, "disproven." it is your turn to ask questions and have ken block respond. he is our guest this morning. before we get to calls, which states did you focus on in this book? guest: georgia, arizona, nevada, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania. host: in point pleasant beach, good morning to you. caller: i have seen you on tv. there is nothing you can say about the seven states you are talking about, they changed their laws unconstitutionally. you cannot tell me that is not right. rudy giuliani had affidavits from poll

they include key trump aids rudy giuliani, mark meadows, boris epshteyn, and former attorney christinaion into the chair. they have no sense of humor, do they? trump has not been charged and he is described in the documents as an unindicted co- conspirator one catalyst for the whole plot to overturn his election defeat. representatives are mark meadows and rudy giuliani deny that they have been charged with doing anything. it was revealed that trump was also an unindicted co- conspirator in the michigan case as well. joining our coverage, founder of the site democracy darkest, mark elias. he is also the author of a new book, minority rule, the right- wing attack on the will of the people and the fight to resist it. maia is also back. talk about arizona and something i try not to do what without warning, mark elias. it is good, right, to see justice grind. i feel like you and ari berman have been on the show, talking about the lies behind january 6th and the equally insidious suppression laws that were run through after since the earliest days of 2020. the important point seems to be ev

and this indictment rudy giuliani, mark meadows, john eastman, jenna ellis, mike roman. these are people who were meeting face-to-face with trump. these are people who are on the ground helping trump put these fake electors together, help them facilitate their signing of those opaque electoral documents that we know are not just charged here, but also in other states around the country. and you mentioned two, there's multiple felony counts, there's nine counts total multiple felonies there's the top line is a conspiracy count that is similar to what we've seen in georgia with rico conspiracy account where trump is indicted, but several of these other people are indicted as well. so some parallel those there. but ultimately the end of the de people within trump's inner orbit charged again here in arizona and yet trump, i liked the charges in georgia. >> he's not indicted in this case at all. he i think is an unindicted coconspirator in this case, but somebody we have not seen before ever be facing charges for the first time is boris epshteyn. why is that so significant? >

what is rudy giuliani specifically telling the president?because, lawrence, as you said, the difference is between a contingent elector scheme and you can have a real contingent elector scheme, but you can't have a fake elector scheme. so that may be part of the issue, that they just don't have that piece nailed down yet. >> so this reporting from politico tonight about the grand jury that conducted this investigation, it says a witness who testified to the grand jury told politico the grand jurors appeared to come from a mix of political backgrounds. some asked questions that suggested they sympathized with democrats while others sounded more politically conservative and still others were inscrutable. the witness was granted anonymity to discuss the secret proceedings. regardless of the politics, the witness described the jurors on the whole as energetic and proactive, driving substantial lines of questioning even while prosecutors seemed more focused on nuts and bolts efforts to substantiate discreet pieces of evidence. tim, it sounds like

the trump aides who been included, are mark meadows, rudy giuliani, boris epstein, former trump campaignke roman, jenna ellis, christina bob, and john eastman, yet another attorney and trump legal adviser in the aftermath of the 2020 election. these are very real charges, of very real crimes, allegedly committed at the highest levels of the trump campaign and the trump white house. trump himself is charged in george's indictment. seven states with fae collectors were nevada, arizona, new mexico, wisconsin, michigan, georgia, and pennsylvania. as we said, we have seen charges in four other states, now. all seven of these states are key battleground states that could be decisive in this year's election. joining me now is ryan j riley, justice reporter friend he and the author of "sedition hunters, how january 6th broke the justice system." here's the thing. that george indictment is so detailed, it has text, communications that go beyond georgia, to pennsylvania, to michigan, to arizona, the information is not new to us. the degree to which this was a sophisticated effort to overturn democ

rudy giuliani, the former new york city mayor and attorney.campaign official and attorney. mike roman. former trump attorney jenna ellis. former trump attorney and john eastman, yet another attorney and trump legal advisor in the aftermath of the 2020 election. these are very, very real charges of very real crimes allegedly committed at the highest levels of the trump campaign and the trump white house. trump himself is of course charged in george's indictment. the seven states with fake electors in 2020 were nevada, arizona, new mexico, wisconsin, michigan, georgia, and pennsylvania. as we've said we have seen charges in four states now. all seven of these states are key battleground states that could be decisive in this year's election. joining us now is ryan j. reilly, justice reporter for nbc and author of a remarkable book, sedition hunters, how january 6 broke the justice system. here's the thing. that georgia indictment is so detailed. it has texts. it has communications that go to pennsylvania, goes to michigan, goes to arizona. so the

. >>> plus, arizona's attorney general has charged mark meadows, rudy giuliani, and other key trump allies, as well as 11 so-called fake electors with state crimes after they attempted to keep trump in power following the 2020 election. i don't know. did you see that coming? >> i did not. >> i didn't see that coming. >> i really didn't. >>> good morning. welcome to "morning joe." willie, did you see that coming? >> not this one. i mean, we suspected it was coming sometime, but didn't see it coming yesterday. and some bold-faced names apparently among the group of aides to donald trump. giuliani, meadows, eastman. >> yeah. >> apparently all in trouble here in arizona. >> wow. >>> it is thursday, april 25th. great to have you with us. along with joe, willie, and me, we have u.s. special correspondent for bbc news, katty kay. and deputy managing editor for politics at "politico," sam stein is with us this morning. where do we begin? >> baseball? >> oh, no. >> willie, yankees -- >> i think we start in arizona. >> baseball. >> judge and soto both went deep. you and sam will be excited to hear t

and as former personal attorney, rudy giuliani trump himself, also named as an unindicted coconspirator. the indictment includes nine counts from conspiracy jersey and forgery to engaging in fraudulent schemes. at the core of those charges. is this moment it was captured on video and shared by the arizona gop in december of 2020. take a look. it shows 11 members of the state's republican party signing a document to submit to congress falsely claiming that trump won the election in arizona. he did not. joe biden, one arizona by about 10,000 votes are panels here. former federal prosecutor elliot williams, ron brownstein, senior editor, the atlantic, former trump administration communications director mike dub key and kate bedingfield, former biden administration communication chins director. good morning. >> to all of you. a elliot, let's just dig into this arizona arizona news because of course, donald trump is an unindicted coconspirator here. but this is another example we've seen it play out in a couple of other states where they tried to send these fake electors to washington. it re

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always good to see you. >> thank you. >> coming up, mark meadows and rudy giuliani are just two of the boldfaced names included in a brand new indictment in arizona about the alleged attempt to overturn the 2020 election in that state, the arizona's secretary of state we'll be here next now, at t professionally installs google nest products you're all set on this system. we should go with the most trusted name and home security as the intelligence of google, you have a home with no worries brought to you by adts, you take a look at here, guys, everything down to she died from design products to removal and installation, worry about this with you through every step of your remodel color visit, rebuffed.com for your free in-home design consultation wow, incredible, amazing. my go-to is lumify eye drops. >> lumify dramatically reduces redness in one minute and look at the difference my eyes brighter and wider for up to eight hours, lumify. it's kind of amazing. >> see for yourself. >> so i can take all these trips because priceline has all these amazing deals and that's when i said deal o

the former president charged when two of his closest associates in the form of mark meadows and rudy giulianiably prosecutors just didn't have direct evidence linking donald trump that where they felt comfortable charging him with a crime. but there's a host of reasons why one person might not be charged in a big conspiracy intimidate me, is a reminder to everyone you investigated january 6, then all the efforts to overturn the election leading up to it for the for the select grant congressional committee. mark meadows takes us another central focus here. once again, julie leoni as well, boris epshteyn, though, a former white house aide to remains one of trump's closest advisers, also indicted now for the first time, what kind of case do you think prosecutors may have? >> there? >> well, i think what what's going to be important there is again, proximity to the former president boris epshteyn is someone who was it directed advisor to former president trump. so although trump is not charged here, i think one to ellie's point that there's a lot of reasons why but i think he adds a surface eleme

. >> rudy giuliani, boris epshteyn, mark meadows, suddenly back in the news. >> this is the first timeut also a former aid and one of his closest top advisers to this day. >> for epshteyn, this is a big deal and he is legally presumed innocent. it is also a big deal and a live issue in this new york case . defendant using boris as a lawyer there and reporting on all these issues, we have interviewed epshteyn repeatedly, including in those early subpoenas. >> when you say you will provide evidence, does that mean your intent is to cooperate? >> i'm happy to provide evidence of the overwhelming fraud that happened in the 2020 elections. >> was your plan to try to force a vote in the house, to reverse the election outcome? >> i had no idea there would be any violence whatsoever. there was absolutely a plan and a process for there to be challenges to the election. >> is that a yes? >> there is a process to challenge electoral votes. there is a process. >> and you're on record and -- >> we pressed on those issues and questions. epshteyn is indicted along with giuliani, meadows, ellis, eastm

the other seven individuals, the like of john eastman, rudy giuliani. christina bobb are redacted because they have yet to be served. these are individuals that were tougher targets here and part of a greater conspiracy. she could have focused on the 11 electors but kris mayes clearly intended to target and make it clear that this conspiracy was not only a threat to the 2020 election, but also the 2022 election and potentially future elections and clearly made the decision to proceed. and if i may, what is notable about her indictment here is the fact that she specifically out lines the fact that she contends that the 11 electors as well as the other seven who are indicted as well, that were trump attorneys or trump campaign officials they intended to deceive the arizona voters. i just want to read part of this. defendants deceive the citizens of arizona falsely claiming those votes were contingent on a legal challenge that would change the outcome of the election. in reality, defendants intended that their false votes would encourage pence to reject th

last to joe biden. indictment alleges defendants including lawyer, rudy giuliani and chief of staff, mach meadows, and submitted false documents to congress, declaring trumps of victory in ours zona. they charged with 9 guns each of conspiracy fraud. unfortunately, services are being held across new zealand. understand, you know, to the number of soldiers killed during the 1st world war. thousands of people that tend to this office in oakland are prime minister christopher looks on it at a reef at the ball memorial museum, father and sidney people, lines the streets to watch veterans and counting surface members take part in the parade. i mean, lot life exports of trying to rescue around a 140 wales that are stranded in western australia for pods of pilot whales. a stuck in the shallow waters of an asteroid in an area of popular tourist volunteers have been pointing watts of the files and then attempt to save them. 26 of the files already died. and those are the headlines. the news is going to continue here on audra 0 officer, fast fashion. see, and how often are the it may seem like

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by the way, "driving with the top down" sounds like a euphemism you'd use about rudy giuliani. [ lightdon't know if you should hire that guy. let's just say he's driving with the top down. [ laughter ] also, who's holding the camera in this video? who in their right mind would get in a car with the guy who mistook the four seasons landscaping company for a luxury hotel? he probably thinks threes road signs are suggestions. [ laughter ] "uh-oh. you know what that means. we've got to drive crazy now! don't worry, the next sign says 'only rudy's allowed.'" [ laughter ] so trump desperately needs money. now, trump has spent his entire life wriggling his way out of seemingly impossible jams. but surely, surely there's no escape hatch for him this time, right? >> more breaking news tonight involving donald trump. his media company, which of course includes truth social, soaring in its first day of trading on nasdaq. surging 56% at one point during trading to $78 a share before closing at 58. >> trump now owns 60% of the new trump media company, or roughly $78 million a share. a stake that is

tambiÉn un gran jurado de arizona estÁ acusado de varios de sus aliados polÍticos, entre ellos, rudy giulianivivo hasta la capital del paÍs con pablo gato. pablo: hola, muy buenas tardes. este es un dÍa crucial para donald trump, porque si la corte suprema falla a su favor, podrÍa liberarse de uno de los juicios mÁs importantes para Él, que es intentar revertir el resultado de las elecciones, Él hablÓ de esto hoy, escuchemos. ex.pdte donald trump: [habla en inglÉs] pablo: los abogados de donald trump dicen que tiene inmunidad cuando era presidente, que por lo tanto, no puede ser juzgado, incluso, la jueza sotomayor preguntÓ si Él organizaba un intento de golpe de estado y sus abogados dijeron que no y que no se le podÍa juzgar, el fiscal especial, jack smith dice que esto no tiene sentido, que en este paÍs todo el mundo es igual ante la ley y que una de sus funciones es intentarÁ revertir el resultado de las elecciones, ¿quÉ puede pasar?, la corte suprema puede tomar el caso o de volverlo a la corte de apelaciones. carolina: seguimos pendientes. un dÍa muy ocupado para el expresidente y para

someone who then was relatively new to the legal team rudy giuliani discussed it on fox. take a look. >> they funneled it through a law firm. >> funneled through a law firm and then the president repaid it. >> oh, i didn't know -- he did? >> yup. >> there's no campaign finance law? >> zero. >> you can hear sean hannity law's disembodied voice. you have to change your talking poirnlts if all you do is listen to donald trump. rudy giuliani would go on from that failed coverup to the big lie to as i mentioned being a co-defendant in donald trump in the rico case which may not go to trial before november. trump was saying he was not involved in the payments and we know that to be false for the reasons i stated. knowing it was false and someone was lying doesn't mean they've yet met the burden of a criminal conviction. we do know they were lying. stormy daniels then attorney, who also has had his own problems, michael avanati, back then was leading this charge against trump and cohen and called the claim ludicrous when he appeared on this very program "the beat" in 2018. >> th

>> zero. >> zero campaign finance law said the now indicted rudy giuliani. he, like michael cohen, was indicted for crimes allegedly done on behalf of donald trump. he is awaiting his own trial in georgia. cohen has gone through this process already. he pled guilty about the hush money and went to prison and it did involve a federal campaign crime. and one juror said they are familiar with michael cohen and another said they follow kellyanne conway, but they'll only focus on the evidence admitted into trial. so they're going to hear things from cohen that might echo what we've learned in public but it has to be done under oath. but of course, cohen has been under oath before. he testified under oath to congress about all of this. >> what i did each and every time is go straight into mr. trump's office and discuss the issue with him. he acknowledged to allen that he was going to pay the $130,000 and that allen and i should go back to his office and figure out how to do it. >> you could expect consistent testimony to that end from cohen before these jurors. th

these other seven individuals, the likes of john eastman, rudy giuliani, christina bobb, that are still rejected in this indictment because they have yet to be served here, these are individuals that were for targets here in part of a greater conspiracy that is outlined by chris mays. this investigation we reported on this last summer and clearly she had easier targets. she could have focused on the 11 electors. chris mays came into office in january of last year and clearly intended to target and make it clear that this conspiracy was not only a threat to the 2020 election but also a 2022 election and potentially future elections and clearly made the decision to proceed and cast a wider net. what is notable about her indictments here is that the fact that she specifically outlines the fact that she contends the 11 electors, as well as these other seven who are indicted as well, that were trump attorneys or trump campaign officials, they intended to deceive the arizona voters. i want to read part of this. "defendants deceived the citizens of arizona by falsely claiming those votes were

the washington port status post report they are mark meadows, rudy giuliani, jen alice, john eastman and christina bob. boris epstein and -- mike roman. the defendants are charged with conspiracy, fraud and forgery, all felonies. for scheming to prevent the lawful transfer of the president keep unindicted co-conspirator one in office against the will of arizona voters. unindicted co-conspirator one, is donald trump. all of this comes as trump already faces 88 criminal charges across four jurisdictions. he is currently on trial in new york facing 34 charges related to election interference and business record fried. tomorrow morning, the supreme court will be hearing arguments in his immunity case, were trunk claims he cannot be prosecuted by special counsel jack smith in the federal january 6th election case against him. joining me now is -- von hillier. i know you have been reading into this and going through the indictment. first of all, set up what happened here in terms of the investigation, whose office did the investigation, how long it took and what attorney general mays annou

. >> rudy giuliani, mark meadows, boris epshteyn. >> this is the first time he's been indicted or a formerho i should note remains one of his closest advisers. >> for mr. epshteyn, this is a big deal. he's presumed innocent. this is a live issue in this new york case. defendant trump using boris as a lawyer there and then reporting on all of these issues we have interviewed epshteyn including when the early subpoenas hit. >> when you say you will provide evidence, does that mean your intent be is to cooperate. >> i'm happy to provide evidence of the overwhelming fraud that happened in the 2020 election. >> was your plan to try to force a vote in the house to reverse the election outcome. >> i had absolutely no idea there was going to be any violence at the capitol. there was absolutely a plan and a process for there to be -- to be challenges to the electoral vote. >> is that a yes? is that a yes? >> it's got a process to challenge electoral votes. >> you're on record as -- >> so we pressed on those issues and questions. epshteyn is now indicted along with giuliani, meadows, ellis, those wh

they include rudy giuliani, parker meadows, and other me prominent trump allies, and, notably, lawyers. the indictment alleges those 18 defendants, "schemed to prevent unlawful transfer of the presidency to keep unindicted co-conspirator one, donald trump, in office against the nd will of arizona's voters." that news dropped in the middle of a very busy week for the former president and his attorneys. trump was also separately named an unindicted co-conspirator in michigan's investigation into the collectors scheme. 16 people have been charged tii michigan's case. comes we can begin with opening statements on monday in a criminal trial in there, which was followed by the prosecution calling its first witness, the former ceo of american media er inc., the pleasure of "the national enquirer" and other tabloids and magazines. over the course of four days, david pecker testified about a crucial meeting between himself, trump, and trumps the personal and fixer michael cohen. prosecutors allege it was at that meeting that the trio hashed out a plan to help donald trump's political chances by

someone who is then relatively new to the team, rudy giuliani, discussed it on fox.h a law form-- a law firm and the president repaid it. >> he did? there's no campaign finance law. 0. >> you can hear the disembodied voice. i didn't know that. guess you have to change your talking points if all you do is repeat what trump says. that moment looks almost farcical all these years later and really judy-- rudy giuliani would go from that field cover- up to the big lie to, as i mentioned being a codefendant in the rico case which may not go to trial before november but is a huge deal down in georgia. meanwhile, cohen was initially saying trump was not involved in the payments. we know that to be false as i mentioned for the reasons stated. knowing that it's false and that some of them were lying does not mean they have yet met the burden for a criminal conviction. i'm trying to be very precise about what the da has to prove but we know they were lying. the stormy daniels then attorney who had his own legal problems since then, convicted for a string of crimes related to di

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ask timme a >> the two of them are, are on an island with regard to this and rudy giuliani has gone from america's mayor there are two, an asinine mayor, and that is foolish for him to say that. and marjorie taylor greene, every time she makes comments like this is for two reasons is one to get attention and to fund raise. and she's certainly fundraising off of it. look, this was an act of god as an act of nature. this earthquake and it's nothing more than that. and anyone who wants to make a conspiracy theory various out of it is absolutely wrong. >> yeah. yeah. and it also points to just hours like where we are with politics, right? that this is we're talking about these things and not policy >> welcome to donald trump's america. jessica. >> all right. maria cardona and alice stewart. we have to leave it there, but always great to have you both here. >> so much. thanks, jessica. >> still ahead. a gathering of survivors of the nova music festival here in the united states is this weekend, we approach the six-month anniversary of that horrific attack on israel will have their story ahead

. >> other key trump allies were also indicted, including rudy giuliani and former chief of staff mark meadows. overnight, the arizona gop condemned the indictments as an unprecedented abuse of power. donald trump has also been indicted on federal election interference charges. in that case, he says he is shielded from prosecution, due to presidential immunity. today the supreme court will hear arguments related to whether that is a valid defense. but mr. trump will be in new york, where his criminal hush money trial will continue in a few hours. we are expecting to hear more testimony from david pecker, the former publisher of the national inquirer. > anti-war protests continue to rock college campuses across the country. 93 protesters were arrested in southern california after they refused police commands to disperse. several faculty members at u.t. austin say they will not teach today because of the school's quote, militarized response to a school event. a letter to university leadership condemned police violence against student protesters. a u.t. spokesperson declined to comment. a

>> while there were more press then there was maga supporters, i did run into b list start rudy giuliani'sanuary 6. our member him talking about peacefully protesting. >> some people were talking about peaceful protests. some people were talking about trial by combat. >> let's have trial by combat! >> do you know anyone who was talking about that? >> i would say that peaceful protest is the most important thing -- >> no trial by combat today. >> do you guys even care what is going on inside the courtroom? >> of course i care about what's going on inside the courtroom. but establishment basic facts about the case. do you think donald trump had sex with stormy daniels? >> no, he is with melania. >> he's a one-woman man. >> he probably hasn't been but women have thrown themselves at trump for the almighty dollar, all those hoes. >> three and half years to go after trump with all those stupid trials. why are they waiting until now? >> is it possible because b12 consistently delayed the trial? >> while trump complains about liberal bias, seemed the most qualified jurors were outside the courtho