let's tonight focus on the decisions rudy guiliani made that killed firefighters on 9/11. when guiliani tried to play his super hero role while testifying to the 9/11 commission in new york city. >> murdered! >> that was the mother of a new york city firefighter who was telling guiliani that her son was murdered because of guiliani's incomp. tense. the world trade center was attacked in 1993. the bombing killed six people and injured more than a thousand. a report issued later showed that the firefighters' radios did not work when they responded to that first attack on the world trade center eight years would have 9/11. guiliani took seven years to replace those radios. and he did it through a sweetheart deal with a no-bid contract. six months before 9/11, guiliani replaced the defective radios with a new set of radios that also did not work. >> at 9:32 a.m. on september 11th, chief california lan ordered all fdny members in the north tower to the lobby. he repeated the command, but not a single company answered. at 9:59, the south tower collapsed. >> mayday, trapped in the

rudy guiliani said publicly as a conservative republican, this is the kind of tool i wanted. to be able to target toor. so in your estimation, you have a democratic administration, why do you think that it is doing this if it weren't for the democratic principles of safety as opposed to far reaching conservative principles of targeting? >> well, i think there are many reasons for it. it's nothing new. every government wants power. it's not limited to republicans or democrats. it's just a fact about the world. and you need to have institutional checks and balances to make sure that that power isn't abused. none of this is, you know, none of this is controversial. these are pinsples that were a part of the -- this is why the founders of the united states founded the united states because they believe that there ought to be checks on government power. now, i think that the disclosers over the last couple days make entirely clear that the checks that exist right now are insufficient, that there hasn't been sufficient congressional oversight, and most important there hasn't been s

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cheryl: you mentioned to rudy guiliani. he was back there working early on.ting with him when the news crossed. >> reporter: one of the big pioneers of commodities trading. people forget this guy was a big deal on wall street. then he got indicted and fled the country. it was interesting. he was pardoned, but he never really -- cheryl: bill clinton pardon to number 40 left office. >> reporter: think it was eric holder. that is -- reading of subjects. a lot of pressure right now for the ira's and an essay, but it's interesting. all of those. right now, listen, it's a sleepy story. i got the story and a bar that was a very sleepy last night. this was a big topic among equity traders. they're talking about this and saying that they are betting. i will tell you this. cheryl: the bar was fun. were you drinking? >> reporter: a martini. we weren't even drunk yet. traders may be that new york city marathon being canceled. we broke that. they have good insight. then make that's all they. they're saying that this is an indication that goldman believes that sac is proba

stuart: all right, strong stuff there from a former new york mayor rudy guiliani. back in 2001, give him credit. that was when marc rich was pardoned. we're joined by the man i am self. you can hear him laughing there. rudy guiliani, your honor, welcome back. >> that was right when the giants lost the super bowl to the baltimore mavens, i was pretty upset about that. stuart: your feelings haven't changed? >> no, the whole thing is an outrage, there's no justification for that pardon and that's a disgrace and a scandal that should have been pursued more. it was a midnight pardon done either the day or the night that bill clinton was leaving office. i found about it at george bush's inauguration. the man was under investigation for massive fraud. he ran away, took all of his records. >> became a fugitive. for years he attempted all kinds of influence with government officials and others to try to get back without paying his price, without going to trial and rejected by the justice democrats, republican and democrat and all of a sudden gets a pardon. he had to do some

rudy guiliani is here. we'll talk to alberto gonzalez. couple of big issues on the table.t on that. why is google pushing back on the whole nsa matter? martha and i will see you for answers in ten minutes at the top of the hour new honey bunches of oats greek yogurt and whole grain. here we go. honey cornflakes and chunks of greek yogurt. i'm tasting both the yogurt and the honey at the same time. i'm like digging this yogurt thing. i feel healthy. new honey bunches of oats greek. >> steve: bet you didn't know nearly half of africa's lion population could face extinction in the next four years. bush gardens tampa is working on several programs in africa to protect and preserve the lions. >> gretchen: joining us is bush gardens and sea world animal ambassador, judy, along with three of bush garden's newest additions, three beautiful lion cubs. good morning to you. >> steve: let's count our fingers before we start. >> as cute as they look, they have attitude like no other animal you will have. already at 2 1/2 months, if you try to tell one of these guys they're doing someth

very surprising, and very surprising i my point out also to rudy guiliani who said when he was in the justice department he said everybody knew, we all talked 20 times day when there was something going on this hot. >> the point is that people want to sense first of all that the white house wasn'hat this wasn't ordered from the administration, and obviously there are a lot of suspicions about that. they also want to sense that there is an independent, thorough, aggressive investigation going on, and the fbi director certainly did not give that sense yesterday in that hearing by his clear failure to know anything about the investigation. martha: yeah, i mean the president has said this is not right, we will get to the bottom of this. he, you know, acts like it's a big priority. it's very odd to say the least to have robert mueller not a little bit more aware of what is going on at least able to put out some answers that it seems like that they made sense on that one. let's listen to tom ridge, on with us a moment ago. i want to get your thoughts on this. >> over the past several months

bill: one of the things that the mayor, rudy guiliani told us last year sometimes you collect too muchnd you don't know what to do with it or sift through it properly. that could create an issue. martha: that would come in many ways from not profiling, saying who should we look at based on the information that we have. obviously a lot of people have a big problem with that. bill: "happening now" rolls your way in a couple you have minutes. jon is cooking some stuff you have. jon: it's a lot like the bill pile and my desk when it gets too big i don't know where to begin. we are awaiting what could be big news from the president, set to speak a little bit later this morning, we will take you there live. the event comes as these new scandals swirl around this white house. word now that the nsa is spying on american phone records and internet use. we are all over this developing story. and news watch weighs in on big brother watching you and the mainstream media. are the media doing enough to fight back? we'll explore it coming up "happening now." bill: thanks, have a great weekend. jon: y

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last night rudy guiliani was on the hannity program and he had this analysis. >> this is a guy that hasows down to him. that's how he became president. they were willing to push hillary clinton aside. not even look at lack of qualifications, things that other presidents get examined for, they basically ignored. he developed very bad habits. they believe they can get away with this. they can have a high level official take the fifth amendment. nothing is going to happen of the that's usually like a catastrophe. attorney general can tell congress, i gave a misleading, possibly false answer. i don't have to give you an explanation. they can appoint someone as national security advisor who gave an explanation on television. that's a disgrace. this is not just putting a finger in the eyes of republicans and conservatives. how about totally disrespectful to the people who lost lives there and their families. >> brian: the counter is this, donald rumsfeld and condoleeza rice were knocking heads all the time, colin powell and donald rumsfeld and cheney were locking horns each time of the does i

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>> brian: here is rudy guiliani. he's disturbed by this. >> seems terribly disengaged. serious and very sensitive investigations. if you asked me who the lead investigator was, well, i have met with that guy probably about 20 times, so it would have been right on the tip of my tongue. i don't get it. you have this irs scandal going on, outrageous violation of people's rights. the director has to be on top of that. the f.b.i. director has to be knowing that's going on. you've got benghazi. i don't understand how they didn't get in there for two weeks. i've never heard of law enforcement officials not going to a crime scene because it's too dangerous. i mean, that's what law enforcement officials do. >> brian: he we want in great detail on how our system has already been compromised by what that 29-year-old exposed to china and he does think he downloaded additional information that shows that it did get worse and the stuff that he has, he was not supposed to have access to nonresponsive they would know what -- >> gretchen: they would know what he downloaded by now. >> br