the party but at this point or 2,007 everybody was sure that was a contest between clinton and rudy guiliani but then we had barack obama and john mccain. it is way too early but party identification is a huge driver of boat choice so to the extent they're drawn to hillary clinton in jeb bush is telling. and maybe they will get bin and maybe they won't. but the thing to watch is out is the economy doing? if we see more of high-level it will be theirs to lose. >>host: when we look back to seize the health care debate will that make a difference in 2016? people think those pivotal issues and the fact is most of the people the war on women is a great example he stood up to rush limbaugh they were all have these issues to sway the voters to switch sides. there's very little switching during the election. so i have to say it is unlikely they will shuffle the electorate. >>host: we hear that voters like a split the government. do people think about that when they go to the polls? to renovate think about party identification. i sound like a broken record. it is a little exaggeration at this point t

look at rudy guiliani. he's not going to do that in iowa and might be too moderate for the republicans here and start in florida. by the time the race got to florida, it was too late and over. >> iowans don't always pick the eventual nominee. iowa republicans largely influenced by vander platts endorsement picked huckabee in 2008 and rick santorum in 2012. >> you got to try it. >> i'll one here. >> filmmaker a.j.schneck directed the documentary caucus and spent months following presidential candidates in the last race. >> it's good for the candidates because they're learning how to run for president. when they arrive in iowa they may not be good at running for president but for governor or for congress. running for president is a very different thing. >> in 2012 governor rick perry played the texas card hard. boots, buckles, bales and all. he's more urban hipster, square glasses and polo shirt and dress shoes, des-driving a new image in iowa. iowans get to meet the candidates and look a candidate in the eye

i think that might be rudy guiliani. i don't know why that is having trouble.ompletely off. >> but i think -- i think -- is this part was interesting to report because of all the tension. you have obama's side fighting clinton's sides of what we tried to do as two reporters, political reporters, we talk to as many people as possible. you would think we talked to one side to get their take but in reality we talked to white house aides, a lot of clinton people and they all agree that this is what happened and they all had their own thing. this is why we would want our person but they all agreed this was a very tense moment for both sides. >> one of the things, we will read another short bit in a minute but one of the things you find in this story is this intense loyalty hillary clinton feels toward people in her inner circle. that is for better and worse. we all think of loyalty as a positive. you want to be loyal to your friends, loyal to the people who are good to you but sometimes it can be a real crimp, or a real inhibitor to good decisionmaking that brings a

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