rudy guiliani said mosques should not impose government surveillance if they have nothing to hide. >> there is no minister, no rabbi in this city nor are there some imams that object to having police officers in their congregation. they want them there. they want them to learn the message. it is enlightening for them. if you've got nothing going on there but a beautiful, religious service, why not? why in his name would you not want to have a police officer there? >> a great point. what do you think? >> his or her name, boom. i actually see the mayor's point and i think he did have that program when he was mayor of new york city. arguably it worked. i am with him. if there is nothing shady going on, why wouldn't members of the police force want to be there? >> why did we -- jessica, why do you think mayor de blasio -- what is your reason that mayor de blasio ended this program and doesn't want people doing security in these mosques? >> because it lead to no actionable evidence or results. de blasio and bill bratten have spoken about this. he said we got no results from doing this. so