it's particularly disappointing with rudy guliani's background.e knows the fbi is not a criminally corrupt organization and he knows that robert mueller is trying to get to the facts. >> and the president tweeting this morning, when and where all the conflicts of interests listed by the 13 angry democrats while working on the witch hunt hoax this all a democratic excuse for losing the election. where is the server? i imagine you agree with senator mccaskill. >> is there an over under how many rudy guliani will be a spokesperson -- >> he just got there. >> okay. between beg on their knees and this comment about framing. mueller, who he has the highest respect for -- it's a low question. as to the 13 angry democrats, if you looked at the political contributions of all 13, these are the people, very esteem people working for mueller. they don't come close to what donald trump contributed to the democrats over the years. there's one issue here, the intelligence community agrees that the russians meddled to help donald trump. the republican-led senate

rudy guliani saying we're not going to cooperate moving forward. we're not going to talk to mueller because of exactly what we're seeing in this report. >> they're going to try it. they're definitely going to try to use this as a means to not participate. we're going to try to use this as their excuse to not do it. the president's former campaign chairman is going to jail today because he -- the judge found that he tampered with witnesses, that he was breaking the rules. we have a lot of rule-breaking going on in washington. a lot of people not respecting the process, not respecting the rule of law. we have a lot of people doing the wrong things. in this case, you have a circumstance where james comey, mccabe, his deputy or mccabe, his counter part, you have these two fbi agents, others that are saying well, we have to circumvent the system. we have to draw outside the lines here because we need to rise to this occasion. comey is arrogant. he said i am going to be in the tank this way or i'm going to change this this way or do that because i know b

rudy guliani says he wants to go on the record. >> the president wants to testify. a lot of people don't believe that. a lot of people think it's a position. it's the true position. he believes he's innocent. i believe he's innocent. he believes if he gets the chance to explain it, people will understand no collusion with the russians, no obstruction of justice, forget his broad powers. he didn't do it. >> eric: for more on the legal maneuvers an, allison barber is standing by. >> reporter: this letter was leaked to the new york times and fox news. we received a copy of the 20-page letter yesterday afternoon. in it, the president's attorneys argue that an in person interview between preside trump and robert mueller is not necessary because the special council has all of the information they need in order to answer the questions they say they want to ask president trump. they say the special council lacks the, quote, requisite need to personally interview the president and there is a high legal bar they need to meet in order to override presidential privileges. the a

slamming his attorney general, jeff sessions again. >> and what is really curious about this, rudy guliani thinks that it's counter productive for the president to keep slamming jeff sessions because guliani thought he was m head in questioning the whole promise of the mueller investigation and the boundaries with which the mueller investigation has expanded over these las 12 to 13 months. the president tweeting this morning, the russian witch hunt hoax continues. it's all because jeffsions didn't tell me he was going to recuse someone else. i would have picked somebody else. so many lives ruined and sessions knew better than most that there was no collusion. so the president clearly ignoring rudy guliani's advice on that. so i put the question to sarah sanders earlier today. what is it that the president is really up to here? >> what is the president's goal here? to remind the attorneythslly ma he won't let himget it? is he trying to get him to quit? is he trying to emascul him? >> the president has made his position on this extremely clear. i don't have anything to add beyond that. >> yo

>> rudy guliani is dreaming. that will never happen.guliani is playing to the public as trump is also playing to the public. because they know that mueller probably will not indict. he will write up a report, it will go to congress. if it's a republican congress, it will probably sit on some desk and gather dust. the worth thing trump could happen is the mid-term elections, if the democrats get in and then all of a sudden they're looking at impeachment. >> neil: the other issue is the timing of this. if you're bob mueller, you've been embarrassed. there's people you counted on before and investigations, comey and others. you're going to go longer now because you have to make sure everything is copacetic. >> you're right. >> neil: really? i just made that up. >> you did a good job. i must say. this is a very dangerous period. remember, the i.g. looking into the clinton administration and the e-mails and the fbi, that was all administrative. mueller is doing a criminal investigation. one of the things -- every lawyer is concerned about, e

>> not today or tomorrow or any point ever going to comment on rudy guliani's love life.glad to leave that to you and the reporter that spoke with him. i'm not aware of having any information on that. jim? >> can you tell us why the president saluted the north koreans while he was in singapore? >> it's a common courtesy. >> on these children that are being separated from their families at the border. the attorney general said somehow there's a justification for this in the bible. where does it say in the bible that it's moral to take children away from their mothers? >> i'm not aware of the attorney general's comment or what he would be referencing. i can say that it's very biblical to enforce the law. it's repeated many times throughout the bible. if you'll let me finish. i'm not going to comment on the attorney's specific comments that i haven't seen -- >> he said in the bible -- >> it's hard for you to understand short sentences. please don't take my words out of context. but the separation of alien families is the same product that the democrats refuse to close. these

rudy guliani said on october 26, 2016, that he expected a surprise in the next few days. two days later, director comey issued his letter. he did it in large part, and i'm quoting his general counsel, because they felt it would leak, those e-mails would leak if he didn't write the letter. and then rudolph guliani said when asked about whether or not he knew about the letter, you're darn right, i did. so the practical effect on director comey's decision to do that letter was very, very tangible. i want to go to another impact of the leaks and ask you about them. we know that mr. guliani was not the only recipient of leaks designed to hurt hillary clinton. representative nunes recently admitted that fbi personnel secretly informed him in september of 2016 when clinton e-mails were found on wiener's laptop. he admitted that fact. he did that days after the e-mails were discovered. there was a leak to him. the timing an context strongly suggested that the goal was to give an outspoken trump ally politically sensitive and highly secretive information to use 4 political purpose

. >> he also agreed with rudy guliani, his lawyer, that a pardon for himself would be unthinkable and lead to immediate impeachment. >> thankfully the president hasn't done anythong and doesn't have a need for a pardon. president does not have the power to pardon him tweeting the president's legal arguments would render whole sections of the constitution moot and allow a president to engage in any form of criminalality and obstruct an investigation into his own wrong nobo above the law, not this president or any president. rudy guliani weighed in on this yesterday saying the president pardoning himself would be unthinkable and it would lead probably to immediate impeachment. so that is in the basket of the probable. the possible is that the president may be able to pardon himself. the probable is if he does it, it would bring him into a world of hurt that no president would want to get into. ask richard nixon. >> shepard: john roberts, thank you. the matters at hand, can a president of the united states pardon himself for a crime? we'll get a legal opinion on that matter and is the sp

senator: rudy guliani bragged that trump campaign is going to make in the next two days. i think all of these revelations about hillary clinton finally are beginning to have an impact. three days later, director comey announced that the f.b.i. would be re-opening its investigation into hillary clinton's use of a private email server. on november 4, when asked whether he had heard about the f.b.i.'s re-opening of the email investigation, guliani said, did i hear about it? you are darn right i heard about it. he said, i had expected this, honestly, to tell you the truth, i thought it was going to be three or four weeks ago. were you able to determine how mr. guliani received this information? mr. horowitz: i'm not going to speak to the investigative steps we may or may not have taken for the very reasons we describe in here about what's appropriate to do in terms of following policy. senator: what actions have been taken against the individuals responsible for disclosing this information to mr. guliani? mr. horowitz: our investigative work is still ongoing and put this in h

rudy guliani was on cnn saying it was a mistake saying the president didn't dictate it. do you want to cct your statement? >> once again, i'm not going to detail and back and forth. you guys would love to engage matters of conversations between the special counsel and the outside counsel. but we've purposely walled off and i'm not going to comment on outside counsel. >> you still talked about it. why can't correct the record now? >> i'm not going to answer questions that deal specificall outside counsel and the special counsel. >> you not want to answe question? >> i'm not going to get with a back andford with you. i refer you to outside counsel. >> the president won pennsylvania by a narrow margin. does he risk alienating key voters and also by the statement that the team abandoned the fans? >> certainly we would hopet all of the people of pennsylvania would share the president's commitment to the national anthem and the pride that we have in our country. certainly not meant to be a slight to any one but frankly a reaffirmation of what a great country we live in and to

rudy guliani, james kallstrom, devin nunes received highly sensitive leaks.eaks to the field office maybe contributed to director comey's to sent the infamous october 28 letter a letter that couldn't have come at a worse time, likely impacted the election. last year i asked director comey specifically about leaks to mr. guliani. he acknowledged for the first time that internal investigation was ongoing. director wray, was mr. comey telling the truth in that? he said here that there was an internal investigation about the leaks to mr. guliani. was he correct? >> senator, i can't speak to what director comey -- >> was he correct that there is an an internal investigation john going to the leak to

rudy guliani suggested that kim jong-un got on his hands and knees to have the meeting reinstated after the president cancelled the summit. the white house has been very careful to be diplomatic in its language. so far no fallout from the guliani comment. the white house doesn't think there will be anything because while guliani is the president's outside counsel in the russia investigation, he's not a white house official and doesn't speak on behalf of the president. julie? >> thanks, john. jon? >> jon: passengers at a major u.s. airport told to clear out immediately. you won't believe what caused this evacuation. plus, west virginia senator joe manchin says he regrets supporting hillary clinton for president in 2016. what he is hinting he might do in 2020 as he faces a tough re-election fight this november. our political panel weighs in next. >> julie: so democrat joe manchin hinting he could support president trump in 2020. the west virginia senator facing a tough re-election battle in november says he regrets backing hillary clinton in 2016. he tells politco, i'm open to supporting

the russia investigation, the president's lawyer, rudy guliani, making accusations about a frame-up. that's the case, he will be darned if he will cooperate with robert mueller's team. that's ahead in this hour of "shepard smith reporting."

. >> this is a strategy rudy guliani, the leading proponent of it. we saw it in the lawyer's letter from january. this is a strategy they've pursued several times now, trying to make the case that the someone is in some way as bu the law, the argument that they're making. this would be unprecedented legal terrory. it is the way that prosecutors work, but to be fair, no president has actually had to be compelled to speak in front of a grand jury. we saw it in the clinton administration. he wound up speaking to prosecutors outside of the grand jury. he spoke under his terms. so it would be unprecedented if the president had to speak in front of a grand jury. >> shepard: were you surprised by paul ryan or something that the insiders expected? >> i wasn't surprised by paul ryan today. maybe folks that cover the hill and follow his back and forth more closely may have had more nuanced reaction to it. but there's certain moments when many republicans feels the president has crossed the line and it seems to be in cases like that, the president's most inflam

plans to block any effort to subpoena the president as part of robert mueller's investigation and rudy gulianing the idea the president may pardon himself. two of the president's attorneys wrote a secret letter to mueller in january arguing the president can no, ma'am be compelled to testify in front of a grand jury. china says it won't step up the purchases of american products if president trump goes ahead with his threat to impose tariffs on billions of dollars worth of chinese imports. the warning comes after a u.s. delegation and china's top economic officials held talks in beijing about ways to narrow a trade gap. new tariffs against canada, mexico and the e.u. kicked in friday. i'm rick leventhal. i'll be back with more news at the top of the hour. >> greg: president obama wonders where he went wrong. a new book by ben rhodes describes president obama's reaction to president trump's 2016 win. i'm guessing it wasn't this. t>> woohoo! [ laughter ] >> greg: that is every brother-in-law. no, president obama questioned himself and america, quote, what if we were wrong, maybe we pushed too fa

i agree with rudy guliani that there would be challenges.why sarah is not eager to rule out the potential. if there was aggressive prosecutorial misconduct, if there were circumstances that were unreasonable and the president was treated unfairly, the checks and balances in our constitution give the president unfetterred pardon power for a reason. i don't believe he's contemplating it. i don't think anybody is. we can never say never because we don't know what unfairness the president could be subject to. >> neil: the we mention it is because he did. the president and his lawyer raised it first. so you think that there's a way he could do that? >> i don't think it's seriously being contemplated. >> neil: why would he raise the possibility? why would they even raise the possibility? it. >> talks about the spector of presidential power more in the sense of his ability to oversee an investigation. i don't think it would be wise for the president to pardon himself under the current fact pattern. it's important to not erode article 2 of the const

i want to get your reaction to rudy guliani's comments that kim jong-un got back on his hands and needsd for the summit to go on. whether you think he should be weighing in on the affairs and whether you agree with the a susment. >> with respect to your second questions. i took him being in a small room and not serious about the comments. it was a bit in gest. we're moving forward and focusing on the important things. i know rudy. rudy doesn't speak for the administration when it comes to the negotiations and this set of issu issues. we're making progress. this is different. the approach the president is taking is difference. there's been months and months of detail negotiations that got nowhere. this has driven us to a place we have not been before. >> thank you, mr. secretary. >> if this goes well, the president would like to bridge kim jong-un to washington. has kim jong-un invited the president to come to north korea? >> i don't want to talk to you about conversations that have been had between the north korean side and the united states. i'll leave that for the president to talk to

the russia investigation, the president's lawyer, rudy guliani, making accusations about a frame-up. if he says if that's the case, he will be darned if he will cooperate with robert mueller's team. that's ahead in this hour of "shepard smith reporting." i'm trace gallagher in for shepard smith. after blaming democrats calling on congress to take action and insisting he couldn't fix the problem, president trump says he's taking action to keep immigrant children with their parents. >> we're going to keep families together but we still have to maintain toughness or our country will be overrun by people, by crime, by all of the things that we don't stand for that we don't want. >> trace: president trump insists he couldn't stop family separations himself and it was up to congress to solve the problem. >> you agree with children being taken away from their parents? >> no, i hate it. i hate it. the democrats have to change their law. it's their law. we need ten votes. we can't -- >> how about executive order? >> trace: the president's turn around comes over days of outrage over the zero t

these documents, especially since we think you'll give them to the lawyer we're ininvestigating, rudy gulianito a judge, you sit and spend hours and hours going through each document. this one against surrendered, this one is still secret, this one gets surrendered, this one is still secret. both sides end up with a piece of the pie. with strzok's testimony, i'm livid that it is secret. it involves a fund american tall issue of our -- fundamental issue of our day. was the fbi used improperly to derail the donald trump campaign. strzok is going to defend what he did. i want to hear that de. maria: how can he say no after that text, we will stop him, we need an insurance policy. >> i want to hear it. i want to hear trey gowdy's question. we shouldn't be treated by children. republicans will have their leaked narrative. democrats will have their leaked narrative. maria: will we not know what goes on in the hearing? >> we will hear a political summary from each sides. dagen: they work for us. we pay their salaries. i want to see it. i want to hear it. >> i want to see chairman gowdy and chairman

president trump's attorney and former new york city mayor, rudy guliani with me this morning as well,. and jack keane is also here, a lot to come in this hour. we are watching the border as well this morning, immigration front and center as president trump is getting set to meet with house republicans later today. griff jenkins is covering the story, he's at the u.s. border control central processing center in texas. good morning to you. >> reporter: we are outside of the rio grande valley sector processing center in mccallen texas. this is where you come, whether adult or minor, as soon as you've been apprehended by border pa patrol. as we entered this national dialogue, maria, about the humanity of how these people are being treated, the president wanted to make it clear that he won't stand to have migrant camps across the country. take a listen. >> the united states will not be a migrant camp and it will not be a refugee holding facility. if the democrats would sit down instead of obstructing we could having done very quickly. >> reporter: maria, the secretary of d.h.s. also took t