bush and former senior staff on the bush 2004 campaign, rudy hernandez.der of latinas for trump, miami radio personality, ileana garcia. thank you, both, for being with us. appreciate the opportunity to have you on here to debate. let's throw out some of the general propositions and get your take. the first one, let's deal with this controversy on the wall. ileana, i'll start with you. trump says we didn't discuss who's going to pay for it when i was with president pena nieto. the president then tweets out, yes, we did, and i told him i'm not paying for it. >> well, i find that -- that's so petty, at least for me, perhaps because i'm expecting something else. but the fact of the matter is, he's a candidate for the presidency. he cannot possibly know anything of the logistics or really have a handle on what can possibly happen in the future. he has that as a means to an end, obviously, but to sit there and discuss something like the price of a wall, for me, is minutia. for me, it's important that this get over and done with, that they have an understanding