necessary to speak after he could have been jailed even for keeping a diary about the island of no rue whiteley's in his will straight is going tom well what did you see there that people wanted you to keep quiet about i think the biggest thing i saw was the absolute despair of the refugees who have being held in a room in indefinite status what is now really because people want to live another is a tiny auto industry nation state is on the right on the equator in the middle of the pacific and it's it's tiny it takes about twenty twenty five minutes to drive around an hour itself is being used to be the richest country in the world per capita that we will get phosphate that was being mined out and now it's one of the poorest countries in the world because i understand they had free education health trance will a new taxes build who comes on this or the great journalist that it's a place of of shame you knew it was a place of shame when you came to work that these are refugees from perhaps major wars and i know you you served in the royal navy brought there by the australian government yes is that