thank you. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ >>> we are back with marwan muasher, rula jebreal.e ask how the president he a remarks instruction you. very simple recap, the president said we shouldn't get on our high horse when we think about islam and terrorism. there were a lot of bad things done in the name of christianity the inquisitions slavery was sometimes justified that way. you're a scholar of the middle east but also a christian. i wondered how this whole issue struck you. >> fareed, obama got it right. isis are the crusaders, today's crusaders. they are slaughtering in the name of religion. they have a twisted interpretation of faith. like the crusaders, as you know fareed the crusaders did not only kill muslims. they killed jews. they killed eastern christians. isis will keep focusing on the few western victims. remember the overwhelming number of victims are muslims. not just even minority, shiites, yaz yazitis and christians, sunni skints and iraqis. but the question is the crusaders and isis, the reality is isis has to be deconstructed. these twisted interpretatio

let's speak to rula joining us from imam. calls for revenge were quick after news of moaz al-kasasbeh's killing emerged yesterday. what is the reaction to the apparent killing by the government in response. are people satisfied? >> some are. they feel they want more. it was an horrific crime. and something that touches each family. so actually that killing and the way it was presented. ooep those questioning jordan's role in the coalition against i.s.i.s. they have nothing more to say. they feel they are on the defensive, and the whole country is rallying expecting a prize and punishing i.s.i.s. for the killing. politically speaking this killing rallies the people around jordan the government the king as it arrives in jordan. we expect him to meet the family shortly, and we heard from the family of the pilot killed. they were supportive of the government. they wanted the government to do everything to make i.s.i.s. pay a price and get revenge. some are questioning the fact that the two iraqis were executed as a prize. they do

rula a mean reports. >> reporter: king' dull a of jordan vow thed a relentless war against isil owe their own territory. the king cut short his trip to the u.s. and in met with his military chiefs. we will hit them in their own ground the king was quoted a day after the islamic state released a video appearing to show a jordanian pilot being burned alive. the killer will not stop jordan from playing an active role in the international row defense against isil. jordan already launching air strikes against isil. now military efforts may be intensified. >> nobody was talking about ground troops, we are talking about helping the iraqi military talking about helping the syrian moderate opposition or the peshmerga troops in order to fight on the ground. but we are talking about a collaborative effort between coalition members in order to intensify our efforts and work to stop extremism and terrorism and to undermine and degrade and eventually finish. >> reporter: jordanians lined up to give condolences to the family. the brutal killing of the jordanian pilot has shifted the pick lick opinion he

muasher, rula jebreal.y simple recap, the president said we shouldn't get on our high horse when we think about islam and terrorism. there were a lot of bad things done in the name of christianity slavery sometimes justified that way. you're a scholar of the middle east but also a christian. i wondered how this whole issue struck you? >> fareed obama got it right. isis are the crusaders, today's crusaders. they are slaughtering in the name of religion. they have a twisted interpretation of faith. crusaders killed not only jews but christians. isis will keep focusing on the few western victims. remember the overwhelming number of victims of muslims. not just even minority shiites, christians. isis has slaughtered thousands of sunni citizens and iraquis. but the question is the crusaders and isis, the reality is isis has to be deconstructed. these twisted interpretations of the faith must be faced head on and only arabs and muslims can deconstruct this particular twisted interpretation of the faith. the reali

let's go live to the jordanian capital amman, and speak to rula our correspondent. the king is trying to captured mood of jordanian peel. how angry are the jordanians today? >> they are angry at i.s.i.l. for the cruelty they they have been treated and how he has been killed. we have to remember jordan has played an active role in pursuing al qaeda, and al qaeda. six years now, and so it's not knew. the killing has given the government a lot of momentum. and the government is building on it. it was very defiant yesterday, and it will continue in part of the international alliance against i.s.i.l. king abdullah himself said they'll trike at i.s.i.l. on his own territory. they'll go after and hit them on their own ground. they are not deterred by the killing, and they want to send a message to i.s.i.l. their active role to go after them is not going to change. we are talking then judging from the copying -- king ramping up its contribution to the fight. do you think jordan has an appetite for what is effectively a war is this. >> definitely there are more jordanian mor

next, a conversation with the first lady of afghanistan, rula ghani. here she talks about the role of women in afghanistan, her life growing up as a lebanese christian, and other issues affecting the country. this is one hour. >> thank you everyone. thank you for coming to our series. i run the national security program here. we are here on ash wednesday so i haven't applied my makeup. thank you for that in advance. thank you also for braving the cold weather we have had here. more cold will come, but i hope you will be warmed by the great conversation we have put together tonight. i want to think in particular -- thank our sponsorship. we have put up for you, our twitter handle, at smart women and we are broadcasting this live. it is my pleasure to introduce our two speakers. most importantly, the first lady of afghanistan, rula ghani, here for the first time. she is from lebanon. she met her husband at the american university in beirut she is quite accomplished as having earned her master's degree from columbia university and of course she is worked

the first lady of afghanistan, rula ghani, here for the first time. she is from lebanon. she met her husband at the american university in beirut here it she is quite accomplished as having earned her master's degree from columbia university and of course she is worked extensively on women's and children's issues in afghanistan. i'm sure she will be sharing those experiences with us here tonight. providing the moderation is as always, nina easton a senior associate here at the sis and also a columnist and share of fortune's most powerful women international summit. please introduce us -- our speakers tonight. [applause] >> thank you all for coming. thank you for that terrific introduction. i wanted to get one shout out to one other person. a weekly podcast. you can find it on your smartphone and it is a great way to hear women talk about pressing foreign-policy matters. thank you so much for being here. it is just truly an honor. it was delightful to get to know you over the couple of -- last couple of days. it is interesting because your predecessor was a doctor. a profe