well the answer is no and rumsfeld was absolutely right on and i think it's very very interesting the observation that you're making which is that the u.s. government ever since then has been going exactly the in the opposite direction which is to use policy instruments that are bound that are bound to. basically exacerbate the problem that rumsfeld raised that is to say increase the hatred of the united states and its policies throughout the middle east and therefore make it easier for al qaeda it's associated groups and allies to recruit people for future terrorism and to get political support for its for its policies and i think that is the central conundrum of the u.s. foreign policy today ok if i can go to you in washington how do you react to that to the rumsfeld to the rumsfeld say i don't know i don't think you guys and we learned anything over the last six years on our own best advice. well first of all i don't remember i mean maybe i'm just misremembering but i don't remember that study and i find it very difficult to believe that there was a paper coming out of again maybe

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. >> you're very -- you have some harsh words about secretary of defense donald rumsfeld. is he part of the group you're targeting here. >> i personally like secretary rumsfeld, but he was part of the group. he and deputy secretary wolfowitz that continued to push to go into iraq. >> in your book you write about an extraordinary moment when the nuclear code seems to have been lost and this was under president clinton. what happened. >> we had a team that worked for me in the joint chiefs that was responsible for going over and checking the codes and making sure they were there on a monthly basis. and we found out that for two consecutive periods that two consecutive periods that when they went over, there was always a reason why the codes were not available. they were in the oval office, the president was in a meeting or he was with an important official therefore they couldn't get to him right then and our guys accepted that and it wasn't until they went over to have to exchange the codes, physically take one set give them another that they couldn't produce them and it wa

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bush and donald rumsfeld and dick cheney and those who have authorized this kind of behavior or have done it as a matter of policy these are not rogue acts or for the american trainers who are trained so-called trained iraqi forces of course the iraqi people have a great thirst for justice as do people everywhere they're not hard to find the iraqi people know who perpetrated these acts against them they live in their neighborhoods in their towns they know that the american military was part of it i think the biggest obligation is for the american people to take hold of this information about what their government did in their name with their tax dollars and with the blood of their young people against a nation that was at peace with them in two thousand and three when they invaded i hope that there will be a massive global investigation for prosecution of george w. bush for war crimes ok will. live brian becker director of the answer coalition and the war coordinator as you off thanks to being on the program. governments in france and britain have a fight on my hands following planne

positive ways to go and president obama is clearly response of this was a policy that started with with rumsfeld and it's been carried over a reluctance by the military so it looks like things are changing that's a terrific role but we know fascinating to hear what you have to say we really appreciate a time here and i'll tell you thank you very much indeed for what us drug policy spokesman joining us live in new york thank you. well coming your way later this hour here on r.t. . i still can't understand how i escaped death somehow managed to push the animals away so he felt crushing finds looks into what's causing unusual and wrong that dangerous increase in people's close encounters with the third kind in this case while the russian burns. the story still to come but first reports say that twenty people are being arrested in georgia for allegedly spying for russia our correspondent sara firth has all the details. pollution police have reportedly detained twenty suspects and they vickie's spying for russia all of the detainees a georgian sister and under suspicion of having created a spy networ

tell us why don rumsfeld was a disastrous secretary of defense. >> joe, i really like don rumsfeld fromership style, the way he went about it, he did not like the fact goldwater nichols made him the principle military advisor. he kind of wanted to be from my perspective, military and policy advisor. he did not like the increased responsibilities of joint chiefs and consequently, tried to diminish the role they had been given. >> did that role get diminished by the end of the bush term? >> from my perspective, it did. >> significantly? >> significantly. i think under the current administration under secretary gate, it started coming back to its right position intended by goldwater nichols. >> until your book came out. >> you see in the book, an incredible span, served under a lot of presidents and seen war up close and personal. how do you evaluate this president, president obama's relationship with the military today, from enlisted to joint chiefs, how is he faring? >> i think president obama is faring very well in that regard. we have great men and women in uniform, great military lead

there was a lot of criticism of rumsfeld, and i think similarly now, not one person is being criticizedadministration, a sense that about two years in now they need to refresh a little bit. i mentioned jim jones -- i think i mangled his title, previously supreme allieded command in europe. he was highly respected. he was expected to step down anyway. after two years of grueling work here at the white house. for some of these folks in the white house have been going at it for four years. that was a two-year presidential campaign, early 2007 when barack obama first ran. some of these folks are just plain exhausted, and you are right to mention the economic state. we will see a fair amount of turnover but it's pretty normal for administrations in both parities to do this but i think you're right, also, that there's special pressure on this administration as they face a very difficult midterm election, possibility of republicans taking over congress. they have to freshen some things up. >> got it. we'll keep following the developmenting news. >>> in chile, drillers are working around the cl

secretary of defense donald rumsfeld was also one of the guest speakers at the event. >> very nice.i think it was pretty nice all the way around. >> we had some rainfall and cool temperatures but -- >> i was pretty much freezing all day yesterday. >> i thought it was really nice. >> it is up to the individual. some people like certain types of weather. others like others. >> that is true. >> today, we've just got rain an really chilly temperatures inform you were chilly ted, today, bundle up. >> i think so. >> will be much cooler, temperature in the 50s for your highs. -- if you were chilly yesterday, today, bundle up. >>> let's take a look at the hd radar. we take a look at that because we are see something heavy rain showers. the heaviest is just to the south and southeast of the district. alexandria, you are seeing some of that rain. prince george's county getting some of that rain as well. rain has broken up a little bit in the district itself but during the course of the morning, we'll see more rain showers pop up off and on through outthe region. a few spots of heavy rain out

some of your "bush at war" books it seemed you were moving toward transparency, interviewing donald rumsfeldn the record as well as president bush. here except for obama not one on the record source. why not? >> but there are all kinds of on the record sources, because i have or have seen the documents that i quote from at length, and nothing is better than a document, particularly one that is produced at a specific time but in this case i'd love to do all the interviews on the record, and as you know, you want to get the truth, and you want to find out what really goes on and if you go in and put a tape recorder down and said okay, this is on the record, you're going to get a lot of untruth. >> but -- >> it's just, you know, i learned that the first day i was a reporter when somebody on a city council in rockville, maryland, said something in public, and then i talked to him afterwards off the record, and he said the opposite. >> from the city council to the white house. for example, sometimes people can say some things on the record but not more sensitive things. you've known david petraeu

donald rumsfeld had the right metric when a few years ago he said, are we producing mortar reuss thanlling? well, in the twaoer 2000 that is the year before 9/11 there were 20 suicide attacks around the world, one of those against americans, the cole in yemen. in the last 12 months there have been 300 suicide attacks around the world, 90% of those anti-america. by the metric that rumsfeld pointed out we are certainly today with our war on terror producing store terrorists than we are killing. jon: i have always thought that these kinds of attacks are motivated primarily by religious fanatics. your study indicates that is not the case. >> jon i agreed with you before i collected the date a. what this book does is it looks at every suicide attack over the last 30 years, and what is striking is that a phenomenal number are carried out by purely secular groups, such as the group in sure a language ka ear the pcc in curbing key. those two groups are marksist, section ooh lar groups. the tigers aren't even islamic they were a behind due group -- hindu group. 95% of all suicide attacks aroun

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>> yeah, donald rumsfeld was asked this question some time ago, and he said in his own way, well, the world's a big place. you know, there's an element of truth to that. northwest pakistan, you know, where bin laden is believed to be hiding is 30,000 square miles. it's the size of virginia, you know, peaks going up to 10,000 feet, you know, very hostile to outsiders. it's not an easy place to find people. and, you know, historically the united states has always had problems trying to find people. fareed, if you go back to, you know, somalia in 1993, we had 20,000 american soldiers in somalia looking for the somalian warlord and they never found him. the israelis spent 15 years trying to find eichmann. they finally found him in latin america. i don't want to -- i don't want to say that it's easy to find people. it isn't. on the other hand, i think that, you know, we've been throwing a lot of money out the window, $500 billion on our intelligence agencies since 9/11. they can't answer some basic questions that i think american taxpayers want answered. where is bin laden? where is his nu

. >> donald rumsfeld youngest ever defense secretary and oldest.democrat. >> term limited. couldn't serve a third term. he's coming back. and he's in a competitive race. >> with the worst free throw shooter. roy barnes in georgia. one termer. >> he expected to win that second term. it was kind of a surprise when he lost it. i think that's maybe one of the cases where it's not -- he's back and a close race. >> and did an i'm sorry ad. bob uhrlich , a rematch. >> this is really a theme from the ex-governors saying look at the mistakes. thing wrs better when i was in charge. >> did you notice the theme of the candidates doing better, the former governors are the ones governor a longer time ago. so in other words, the closer in time we are to their actual tenure, it seems voters don't like them as much. i think it holds true for branstad, 199. same thing with brown, the '70s. those are the guys doing better. what is it, nostalgic or amnesia? >> fuzzy memories. they're fresh for younger voters. they don't remember when they were governor. >> the dynamic

general peter pace then chairman of the joint chiefs and his boss at the time defense secretary donald rumsfeld>> it is absolutely responsibility of every u.s. service member if they see inhumane treatment being conducted, to intervene, to stop it. >> i don't think you mean that you have an obligation to physically stop it. it's to report it. >> if they are physically present when inhumane treatment is taking place they have an obligation to try to stop it. >> warner: the wikileaks documents show that americans did attempt to stop abuse at times and did report it on many occasions. but investigation and prosecution was left to the iraqis. and for more on lessons from the weaked-- leaked >> ifill: for more on lessons from the leaked documents, we get two views. retired army colonel peter mansoor led a u.s. brigade in iraq in 2003 to 2004, then returned as executive officer to commanding general david petraeus during the 2007-2008 u.s. troop surge. he's the author of "baghdad at sunrise," and now teaches military history at ohio state university. john mearsheimer, a west point graduate and former

there was an institute for nation building at the army war college and rumsfeld shouted down military believed and that you did not mention the thousands of american civilians and government employees and contractors and ngos a much greater danger because they don't have security and they are on the front line and i want to pay tribute to them because that is part of my program but to get back to the core point* nation-building became a dirty word because it was spun out in the wrong way. call it what everyone to afghanistan is a nation we're trying to help them rebuild. agriculture is the perfect example. they were the breadbasket and they dominated the world market and exported to their neighbors and wheat and grapes eve been good reselling wine but the vineyards are still there and north of koppel in the planes but that was all destroyed. we can help them do what. it is the highest electricity rates maybe not in the world but one of the highest a massive job but it is not nation-building. they have never had this separatist movements that exist right now from sudan or even with nei

in that regard, i had to use what would be considering disparaging remarks from secretary rumsfeld. personally did not lead to team work and what i thought was best for america's armed forces. >> you said he put politics ahead of policy. so in the end, when we look back through history at what happened in iraq, do you think he or president bush will be vindicated as some thing they might be? >> well, i think the school is still out on that question, ann, it's a great question. and i think over time, certainly iraq is better without saddam. there's no question saddam needed to go. but what's left for the iraqi people is what's important. once u.s. forces are predominantly out of iraq, will they have a democratic type government or will the iranians come in and seize control of iraq as they have wanted to do for a long time. that's an open question. we see some very troubling things going on in iraq right n now, their inability to appoint a government. >> a book about a life, the making of a great general. and i want to really thank you for -- and also about history because of 9/11 an

then-secretary donald rumsfeld says the taliban is gone. while. it's great having you back on the program. so who would the afghan peace council be talking to in these negotiations? are we talking about senior taliban representatives with the blessing of moulah omar, the leader? who is talking? >> i think we're talking about lower-level leaders, but there is effort to talk to the top, moulah omar, and people who respond directly with him, to see if the fighting can be halted through some process of accommodation. >> the united states government is not going to participate, is our understanding, in the talks. is that a good idea? >> i think, again, there is two levels of talks. there are talks among the afghans. and then there are talks among the surrounding nations who have the capacity to undermine any agreement that the afghans reached. so the u.s. will be talking to pakistan, russia, india, maybe even iran, country that have traditionally interfered in afghanistan and supported different factions to ensure that the after gaghans are gett

. -- donald rumsfeld. there was a program in the defense department that he shut down. many are in much greater danger because they do not have security. and i want to play a tribute to them because that is the part i am overseeing. but to get back to you, nation building became a dirty word because it was spun out in the wrong way. you call of what everyone, but we're not building a nation. we're trying to help them rebuild. agriculture is a perfect example. as i mentioned earlier, they were an agricultural export country. they were the breadbasket. they exported to their neighbors weeks and grapes. they even exported could riesling winds -- could resoiling -- good riesling wines. it is the poorest non-african country in the world. it is a massive job but it is not nation-building. they know who they are. bear in mind that afghanistan has ever had a separatist movement like you saw in yugoslavia, that exist and sudan, and even in neighboring pakistan and india. >> some of the leaders of said to me, you have this huge country so strategically located which -- with by la

for example, karl rove, dick cheney, and rumsfeld cost this country so much with the allies and the wars. the c i operation -- the cia operator that he set up, i don't remember the name. host: we got your point. you need to turn your television down. gilbert on the independent line in tulsa, oklahoma. who also has your television. i will put you on hold for a minute. "u.s. -- "the new york times" sidebar stories about george soros. that last quote and the link to the story is on the front page of the dredge report this morning. -- drudgereport.com. gilbert, you are on the air. caller: i don't understand the american public. the easiest way to defend against all the money coming into the campaign is to make a ledger, one republican, one democrat. watch tv. every time a commercial comes on, put an x. at the end of the campaign -- vote for the one with the least amount. they owe everything to the voters. not the finance people who run the campaigns. for carl rove and that ilk that got us into all of this trouble -- karl rove, to have the temerity to stand up and talk about wanting to gain c

bush got beaten up badly in '06 that he stopped letting dick cheney run foreign policy with don rumsfeld. what did he do? he brought in gates, a guy he didn't want to bring in, his daddy's guy. it irritated him to no end. he started listening to condoleezza rice who he ignored for the first six years. bill clinton, same thing happened with clinton in '95. did he want to bring in dick norris? no way. they hated each other. they got out of their comfort zone. the best example, and i'll stop here, ronald reagan picked the guy who tried to kill him in the republican primaries, james a. baker iii and said you did such an amazing job with bush, i want you to run my white house. >> he picked not just somebody he wasn't close to, but a guy who ended up being the best chief of staff in our adulthood. the comparison to bush i think is totally apt which is to say bush and the obama and the left won't like when i say this probably, they're very similar. they want the people they already know. they don't want outsiders in the inner circles. when the washington chattering class, when the people gabbin

i heard him defending donald rumsfeld before he resigned.t would be good to have all local playing field and bring up the time to did express an opinion -- whose analysts on npr are not supposed to do. i would hope that c-span in fairness in having a level playing field would do this -- would adjust that. make it clear why the really fired him. you cannot serve two masters. you know what the fox network is -- the fox-rupert murdoch, i don't know if you remember mike , a columnist for the sun times -- then when rupert murdoch bought the paper, mike told him what you do anyone over and work for "the chicago tribune." thank you for your time to steve. please give more information on why juan was fired. host: he was fired due to his comments last month. but there had been a longstanding series of issues between npr and juan williams because he has been on the fox news channel since 1997. and as always said to me -- here is one of our tweet messages. you are correct, at 90% of the funding comes from viewers and corporations. -- 98%. we're joined

rumsfeld which invalidated military commissions without congressional legislation to authorize them. these cases reflect a particular kind of wisdom. these were john probably, but not only from his military service. i think it was a lifetime of attention to the persuasiveness of executive region. before i get back to that theme, let me do one more bit of history to put this in context. right after world war ii, justice stevens served as a law clerk to justice wiley rutledge at the supreme court who himself had struggled with some of the most profound questions of national security, individual rights, executive powers during world war ii. he was on the court when it placed the question at issue which was the curfew imposed on japanese americans on the west coast of the united states. he was on the court, of course, for the case that involved the exclusion of the citizens from the same coastal zone. rutledge initially in these cases deferred to the executive s. president roosevelt had taken the position that this was necessary in the interest of national security. it seems clear if you

i stood up in the navy and did that against opposition of the rumsfeld administration.hey had 60 ships with knowledge-based systems. there's about 270 now. take, for example, the f-22. we had to stop that program. if we have the knowledge of where osama bin laden is, another ship at sea that in that case isn't going to help us. i want to bring the change in military into the congress to do things right and understand warfare and what the budget needs to be to have a more cost-effective, efficient military. >> my dad's a veteran of the korean war era. my brother-in-law served 20 years in the navy. one of the things that's very, very important to me is that we make sure that when we ask men and women to go into harp's way, they have all the resources they need to get the job done. the fact is, there is waste pretty much everywhere in government and that includes the pentagon. part of the problem is congress voting for systems that the pentagon doesn't even want. congress has a real serious spending problem and it manifests itself in many ways. certainly wasteful defensive