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one can see that in the interactions in which feith and donald rumsfeld indeed apparently threatened franks with his job as a -- >> what was his job? >> his job was head of centcom at that time. and the rumsfeld years as secretary of defense, his second time around, made it plain that one did not cross the office of the secretary of defense and to that end, compliant people worked for him. >> did you ever work for the government? >> i've consulted for the government many times over the decades. >> there's a footnote here, it says -- what was he doing at the time and why were you talking to him? >> i was a student in paris at that time and i took it upon myself to visit the chinese embassy in paris, not realizing that it was extraordinary for an american student to wander in. vernon walters was the military attache in paris at the time and he, in short order, became deputy director of the cia. and that established a relationship through much of my work in sharing insights with the intelligence community. >> what do you think of the council on foreign relations and how does it fit in a

rumsfeld's experience in the private sector as a c.e.o. and senior advisor to william blair and company. i'm proud to call him a friend. building on the records, we touch on other stars of our story. congressman robert mccolory served as a true symbol of independence. he was a conservative and a loyal republican who was a defender of president nixon until the evidence convinced him otherwise. it was the congressman's vote for two impeachment articles that set the standard for political independence, judgment and the rule of law in this house. for us, we now come to the final predecessor of mine, john edward porter, who one a special election in 1980. to briefly touch on his service, it was brilliant in many ways and set another standard for independence in this chamber and on the federal bench. following him, congressman porter gained a seat on the appropriations committee where he served until after his retirement. following a trip to the soviet union in 1983, congressman porter founded the congressional human rights caucus and witnessed

>> i think it was the right decision to make. >> he kept rumsfeld on the job two more years, even as do you think cutting troop levels too quickly was the most important failure of execution of the war? >> in the beginning of the war yes. and the security situation in baghdad got terrible. as you know. >> in the summer of 2006 you write it was the worst period of my presidency when it u came to iraq. for the first time you worried that we might not be successful. set up what was going on? >> the is was the worst time in my presidency period. reason why i thought we were about to lose in iraq. >> casualties were mounting, his popularity was plummeting, leaders of his own party were urging him to withdraw some troops, and yet you are thinking of doing the opposite, to use a poker expression, doubling down in iraq. what made you think that was going to be successful. give me your thinking on that. >> i didn't know what would be successful. i knew what would be unsuccessful. that was the current strategy. so i was coming to the conclusion throughout the summer that we needed to try somet

bush hired a guy that bush elder hated, donald rumsfeld, to run the war. i mean there was an awful lot of e -- oedipal stuff going on. chris: is this book going to be a redebate? >> you know why we look at that, we still don't know why we went to war. >> stop talking to brent scowcroft. brent scowcroft was removed as head of the intelligence advisory board all for that editorial of "the wall street journal" before the war, august, september before the war, coming out against the war. he was absolutely rejecting the father's advise as represented by scowcroft. chris: i want to know if he follows your advice in the book with the three d's -- don rumsfeld, dad -- >> and dick cheney. his assistant to talk to me and i said answer the question, dick, don and dad. what really happened and what were the relationships? i'm going to read the book. it stounds like it's got the bush staccato style. he tells you what he's thinking. it's all about as karl rove used to say, outcome and results. no attack after 9/11. that's true. that's a big deal for bush. chris: sure. w

. >> larry: how strained the relationship between him and cheney and rumsfeld. can the united states win in afghanistan? looks back at his role in history and ahead to america's place in the world. colin powell is next for the hour on "larry king live." >> larry: great pleasure to welcome back to "larry king live" a good friend. we have a month to go with the show. and so honored to have him kick off this week. general colin powell, united states army retired. he was secretary of state under president george w. bush, former chairman of the joint chiefs, founder and chair of the colin powell center in harlem. i will visit the center next month. center for policy studies affiliated with city college of new york. and founding chairman of america's promise. it was six years ago today that colin powell announced he was resigning as secretary of state. boy, time goes. >> time goes, yep. >> larry: do you miss government? >> not really. i try not to miss anything in life. i enjoyed my government service. i was in government service for 40 years between the military and

the doubt to the national security wizard of the moment, whether it is robert mcnamara for donald rumsfeld. >> you say the hypnotism of fame grew cold as did much during the kennedy years. where do think this came from? >> there are about half a dozen that are consistent that come from deep within the keel of american culture, the way we think about ourselves, the way we interpret tradition and miss. -- myth. this comes from being a democracy. democracies love star individuals. it is harmless if one is making a star out of britney spears or a share, but if one takes this notion of stardom into national security realm, there lies the mistake. americans give wives but now the stars and wizards really might not be what they are cracked up to be, but in that amount of time, chaos and mayhem can come to rain. >> how did they get to be stars? >> the ivy league credentials have given extraordinary weight. they are made stars by the press. for example, when nixon resigned, one of the first announcement that his successor made to the white house press corps was that henry kissinger would be retaine

recently, somebody sent me a declassified secret document that don rumsfeld, the former secretary of defense wrote, in the summer of 2001, three or four months before 9/11. and the secret memo was to condoleezza rice and dick cheney and colin powell, then the secretary of state. it's a long memo in which rumsfeld said we have to have meetings and get serious about iraq and doing something about saddam hussein. now, i wish in the summer of 2001 wikileaks or somebody had been around to leak or provide that document so we would have known at that point, the secretary of defense was mightily agitated about iraq and wanted to do something. want topped see if regime change was possible and was laying out some quite radical options. that is a point where if there had been transparency or leak, that would have been very useful to people and, i wish there was more of that. but the stuff i've seen here, what does it tell us about what the government might do in the future that needs more examination? more debate? as we did not have in the run-up to the iraq war layer ti remaining moments with

you could have made a good case that rumsfeld should have been dispensed with at that time.happened under his -- under his ultimate control. obviously without his knowledge and certainly without his consent and ultimately he was the man responsible and a lot of people think he should have taken the fall right then and two things weighed on the president and he expresses, he didn't have another one to go to at the time and the second is, i think he liked rumsfeld, i think he liked him a lot and he had a powerful ally within the high council of the administration in one who at the time the president was relying on heavily and that was vice president cheney and he and rumsfeld go back many, many decades and are very dear friends, and i think it was a difficult choice the president made, and, he was in the middle of these conflicts and didn't want to change, you know, the overall commander. and of course when he made a change he made the change to somebody else who has proven so well regarded he's a holdover in the administration, so, you know, arguably, could have made the chan

out kissinger whether it was george howell which employed kirkpatrick or stands for which now has rumsfeld when you consider that professors in our best universities advocate torture and the order medic destruction of villages after a terrorist attack when you consider all this becomes clear that the question of civility whether one treats his or her critics according to emily post's rules of etiquette. however real the question is is by comparison a meaningless sideshow or just a transparent pretext for the gnawing a person the right to teach an account of his or her unpopular political beliefs thank you. so the outside world the conflict in lebanon seemed to stop. the fighting stopped about one thousand two hundred people killed most of them civilians the map of web allies of the middle east to be drawn in ways that they want to expect. many of those who smile at them in the capitals of the west of since a visit to the states the structure of my. welcome you and i ask that you take a moment of silence to honor the lives of those who died in palestine iraq and lebanon. some of you might k

he relied too much on people like dick cheney, karl rove and donald rumsfeld in the beginning.wards the end of his administration he really, when he fired rumsfeld, much against cheney's advice, i think he began to come into his own and i think he really ended up by going with the tarp that he really took on a personality of his own and became his own person. i think he was moving in that direction. but i think the first part of his first administration, i think he was much too reliant on them. i think he could have learned a lot from his father and so. people in his father's administration. >> bill: now, he seems very relaxed with his, you know, performance at the white house. he doesn't seem to have too many regrets or second thoughts. does that surprise you? >> well, i think that's true. and i think that's the kind of person he is and i think he is -- people used to call his father a gent. i think he has become a gent. i like the fact he is not criticizing president obama because he thinks it's unseemly to criticize your successor. i think that's the right thing to do. wheth

>> i think if you look at the statements of the time, secretary rumsfeld believed very, very strongly foot. he wanted to get in and get out as quickly as possible. he didn't want to have troops on the ground. look, it's a respectable point of view. it was a way of thinking about a fast lethal operation. not doing nation building. not getting bogged down in operation. you know, there are still people who believe that that was -- that would have been the right approach. that clearly was the approach the administration took in afghanistan and also in iraq. don't forget, many of the problems in iraq happen for precisely the same reason. it is, however, in both cases after a while and after years of failure that president bush in the case of iraq and president obama in the case of afghanistan decided, you know what, this ain't working and we've got to put more troops in. i think, you know, president bush is, in a sense, not giving enough credit to the fact that there was a credible military strategy laid out and detailed by donald rumsfeld, which was to have a very light footprint. >> as a

intelligence community that rumsfeld was so eager to militarized. it's made up of 17 major agencies and outfits including the offense of the director of national intelligence. created in 2004, in response to the intelligence dysfunction of 9/11, that office is already its own small bureaucracy with 1500 employees. and evidently next to no power to do the only thing it was ever really meant to do. coordinate the generally dysfunctional labyrinth of the ic itself. you might wonder what kind of intelligence a country could possibly get from 17 competing bickering outfits? but that's not even the half the of it. according to a "washington post" series -- this just came out a couple months ago. it was called top secret america. it was a three-part thing with interactive maps and it's well worth taking a look at it. it was by dana priest and william arkin and these are just some quotes that i picked out of the very first of their three articles,ions cherry-picked out just to give you a feeling for the size and the growth of the ic before we get to the pen

time have as its principal image that of torturing torture incorporated because bush and cheney and rumsfeldnot only invaded afghanistan invaded iraq they detained tens of thousands of people they said they weren't liable to be held under the geneva conventions they were they were tortured they were taken to other countries the secret rendition places in other words the image of the united states was one of torture the opposite of freedom or democracy and so now the obama administration has subjected the united states to a review a universal policy review and the rest of the world is taking aim at the united states and highlighting its flaws it's the facts in terms of human rights the formal position of the conservatives is that the united states can only be the judge it can never be judged that somehow it's superior to the people of cuba or venezuela or those countries that seek to be independent of the united states. let's now take a look at some of the top stories from around the world at least fifteen have been killed and eighty wounded after a suicide attack on a mosque in northwest pak

time have as its principal image that of torturing torture incorporated because bush and cheney and rumsfeld not only invaded afghanistan invaded iraq they detained tens of thousands of people they said they were liable to be upheld under the geneva conventions. they were they were tortured they were taken to other countries the secret rendition places in other words the image of the united states was one of torture me the opposite of freedom or democracy and so now the obama administration has subjected the united states to a review a universal policy review and the rest of the world is taking aim with the united states and highlighting its flaws well the formal position of the conservatives is that the united states can only be the judge it can never be judge that somehow it's superior to the people of cuba or venezuela or those countries that seek to be independent of the united states for more on the other stories just log on to our website that's aussie to call waiting for you there right now get lost in moscow and find yourself in london the distance between the two has been shortened

. >> don rumsfeld was the head of it dick cheney was his deputy. >> i was 30 years old i went to getne. i concluded it was a train wreck. a year and a half later he took over as treasury. he called a bunch of us over closed the door sat down and said gentlemen how are we going to get out of these dam controls? >>> oo no one could understand the idiocy of controlling wage and prices. >> in order to get anything through there has to be sometimes some type of an agreement. >> nixon be trade us. he said he was a conservative he would govern as conservative. of course he did not. >> he signed off on expanding social security in irresponsible ways created environmental protection agency the consumer product safety commission and regulation exploded under the nixon administration. he also pushed for liberation. >> i think that any one at that moment would have to say something needs to be done. in retrospect we made a terrible mistake. we had two paths to take. the first would be to let black people fold into the fabric of american life like anybody else falling or succeeding on the strengt

. >> don rumsfeld was the head of it dick cheney was his deputy. >> i was 30 years old i went to get concluded it was a train wreck. a year and a half later he took over as treasury. he called a bunch of us over closed the door sat down and said gentlemen how are we going to get out of these dam controls? >>> oo no one could understand the idiocy of controlling wage and prices. >> in order to get anything through there has to be sometimes some type of an agreement. >> nixon be trade us. he said he was a conservative he would govern as conservative. of course he did not. >> he signed off on expanding social security in irresponsible ways created environmental protection agency the consumer product safety commission and regulation exploded under the nixon administration. he also pushed for liberation. >> i think that any one at that moment would have to say something needs to be done. in retrospect we made a terrible mistake. we had two paths to take. the first would be to let black people fold into the fabric of american life like anybody else falling or succeeding on the strength of