rumsfeld is doing this?to. he's got to cover his rear end. i mean, there are cases in foreign countries right now being worked by lawyers there. one in switzerland actually kept president george bush from visiting switzerland that will, under international auspices bring cases against cheney, rumsfeld, fife, addington, et al. they don't dare resort to anything other than defending their positions because ultimately in the -- even within their life times, they may be subject to litigation. i will predict that, as i've said many times before, they will not travel except perhaps to israel and saudi arabia. those will be the only two countries cheney, rumsfeld and others will travel to. >> lawrence wilkerson, colonel, we love to have you on the program. you do tell it like it is. i appreciate your time tonight. >> thanks for having me. >>> coming up -- bin laden was hiding in plain sight. turns out he had money and phone numbers handy in case he needed to make a quick getaway. what did pakistan know, and when di

i think don rumsfeld will ratify this. you know, we rely on the pakistanis for the transfer of our major supplies to afghanistan through karachi and through pakistan. we have opened a northern route but it's not capable of doing what we need to do. secondly, everybody has to understand that even in the getting of osama bin laden the pakistanis were helpful. we have people on the ground in pakistan because they allow us to have them. we actually worked with them on certain parts of the intelligence that helped to lead to him and they have been extraordinarily cooperative and at some political cost to them in helping us to take out 16 of the top 20 al qaeda leaders with a drone program that we have in the western part of the country. so it's a mixed bag. it always has been. to some degree may be. i believe this opportunity now allows us to urge them to see the ways in which their interests really are not where they have perceived them to be and hopefully there can be a readjustment. if there isn't, then we're going to have t

you heard from don rumsfeld, under don rumsfeld, he went to transform the military and greatly increasey and the numbers and the funding for our special operators of which our seals are one of several units. and i have a personal relationship with a lot of the seals and seal team six. and finally, intelligence reform which cut down the walls that separated our civilian and military and even within the intelligence community, separated intelligence agencies from cooperating. the cia and the geospacial agency and others were all part of this effort to track down, to go from the courier, the flick name to his real name, to who he was to where he lived and to, surprise, surprise, a compound that harbored osama bin laden. >> we need to have another debate about rendition, but black sites and enhanced interrogation. i have to wonder if a president that was so reluctant to say war on terrorism, overseas contingessency operations, a president that was going to give a civilian trial to ksm, a president that offered miranda warnings to enemy combatants, you gotta wonder, do you think president oo

so you know, when you have got rumsfeld admitting that it is a pretty dark day for republicans.now, we are going to talk about that a little later in the program, too, but they are stretching, 'cause what do they have? look, i don't present just my opinions on the show, we just showed you all the facts, just showed bush himself saying i don't care. i don't want to get -- he didn't say i don't want to get bin laden, you heard the tape, he said i am unconcern canned, right? so my question is -- >> he doesn't matter anymore. >> so, joan, why was that? why did he say over and over again, i'm not concerned about getting bin laden that seems like a crazy thing to say, even if you thought it. >> you know it is not that crazy to me if you think about the sort of psychology of george w. bush. he is a guy who, if he can't do it, if he k get it right, he will act like it is not worth doing. we saw that over and over. and so i think, you know, maybe he felt bad, maybe he didn't, but they were failing so miserably, it was easy for him to just kind of shrug it off. we are not doing it, i don'

joining those claiming a win for torture tactics, former defense secretary donald rumsfeld. >> i think that anyone who suggests that the enhanced techniques, let's be blunt, waterboarding did not produce an enormous amount of valuable intelligence just isn't facing the truth. the facts are the general came in, he had no connection with waterboarding anybody. he looked at all the evidence and concluded that a major fraction of the intelligence in our country from al qaeda came from individuals, the only three people who were waterboarded. >> joining me now matthew alexander, a former senior military interrogator who conducted or supervised over 1300 interrogations in iraq leading to the capture of numerous al qaeda leaders and the killing of al zarqawi. we should note, matthew alexander is a pseudonym he uses for obvious security reasons. thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thanks for having me, lawrence. >> you just heard donald rumsfeld say, that anyone, anyone who suggests that the enhanced techniques, waterboarding did not produce an enormous amount of valuable intelligen

[cheers and applause] unfortunately, folks, unfortunately, even rumsfeld doesn't settle anything. and the only way torture can be justified is if we know that they saved lives. but if there is no indisputable evidence that torture saves lives, there's only one thing a civilized nation can do? torture more. we've got to keep torturing until there is one clear case where everyone says that torturing saves lives. then and only then will our actions be justified. so who do we torture next? now, we could... [cheers and applause] it could be terrorist, but what are they going to tell us, where bin laden is? the onlies who know that are fish, and waterboarding won't help. [laughter] folks, if you think about it, you know what kills more americans than terrorists? drunk drivers. every year drunk drivers kill 37,000 people. that's almost 13 9/11s. i say that justifies cops administering something a little stronger than a breathalyzer. and it's not just... [laughter] it's not just the drivers. pedestrians shouldn't get off scot-free either. the u.s. had over 4,000 pedestrian deaths last yea

joining -- joining me with analysis, donald rumsfeld is back. welcome back, good to see you. >> thank you sean. >> sean: a couple of things. let's start with the photographs. panetta saying, they got photographs, images, they got photographs prior to dumping his body in the sea. my attitude is, why not release all of these pictures and let the public decide, your thoughts? >> well, i'm without conviction on the subject. i suspect that i'd have to see the photographs to know what my opinion was. but i tilt towards releasing them, as you do. >> sean: i can't come up with a justifiable reason why we wouldn't. you day and qusay was release -- udam and qusay was released, saddam's hanging. former president kennedy with half his skull missing. >> those were not released. those were taken, as i recall the kennedy photos. in real-time. if i'm not mistaken. >> sean: right. >> in this case the concern on the part of the department of defense, i would think, would be, would the photographs contribute to enraging people in the world and causing recruiting t

is the in the -- >> that's one of rumsfeld's rules. >> when i say rumsfeld rules. it's a rule i quote from someone more intelligent than i am. >> with full credit. >> indeed. but it's true. every time you try to do something. for every office visit defense. for every defense than offense. there's a constant change that takes place on the battlefield. i think that we are unlikely for a period of time to end up with the kind of clarity we had in world war ii. because of nature of the world we're living in. it is asymmetric. it's not symmetric. it is ever-changing, and it is going to be a challenge for our leadership. it's going to be a challenge for our country. but the growing lethality of those weapons, when president bush was faced with, when he made his decision on iraq, was that there was a study by johns hopkins university called dark winter, and if my memory serves me correctly, what -- a series of experts got together and they said what if we took smallpox and put in three locations in the united states of america. and in a relatively short period of months,

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it does seem to be rumsfeld personality-based and others.that more typical that what we seem to be seeing in the obama administration what is a group of people who seem to get along and respect each other? >> i think so. you always see institutional frictions, but i think they got very personal in the bush administration. there's a calmness about this group that reflects the coolness at the center of the administration in kind of president obama's reflective rather detached approach to events. >> tom ricks with foreign policy magazine. thank you very much for joining us tonight, tom. >> you're welcome. >> in tonight's rewrite, what more does president obama have to do to disprove the republican lie that democrats are soft on defense? also, the terror threat. with bin laden gone, how powerful will al qaeda be? >>> tonight in spotlight, what does the death of osama bin laden do to the current threat level? today, former president george w. bush said, earlier this evening president obama called me to inform me that american forces killed osama

bush however even secretary of defense donald rumsfeld disagrees he said some information that came from normal interrogation approaches or guantanamo did lead to information that was beneficial in this instance it was not harsh treatment and it was not waterboarding. also chair the senate intelligence committee dianne feinstein said this today. indications that. the information was gained by the harsh interrogation program of the cia what do you know it was was it a product of waterboarding that kind of process to date. the answer to your question is no. and white house deputy national security adviser john brennan went on the record this morning to also knock down the myth that waterboarding provided any intelligence that led to the location of osama bin lot and obviously there is word out today that waterboarding played a very big role or a role in actually getting the information that was finding bin laden is that the case. so does bush really deserve any credit or is this just right wing nonsense alex sites wall is a reporter and blogger with think progress and joins me now alex wel

and to donald rumsfeld who slammed her in his recent memoirs. >> don is a friend but is a grumpy buy. he is. he doesn't know what he's talking about. >> fascinating discussion with google's executive chairman eric schmidt about the great babble between apple and google. why it matters who will win. here is my take. pakistan's military has been embarrassed, to put it mildly, by the suspicion it must have known where bin laden was hiding. in response it is using its old tricks. hoping to ride out the storm as it has in the past. it is leaking stories to favor right journalists, all with the aim of stoking anti-americanism in pakistan. having been caught in a situation that suggests either complicity with al qaeda or gross incompetence and the realities frontally a bit of both, it is now furiously trying to change the subject. angrily denouncing america for entering the country. pakistani friend put it to me this way. it is like a person caught in bed with another man's wife who is indignant that someone entered his house. the military has also once again been able to stop the civilian g

i have to ask you, don rumsfeld says that, to put it bluntly, a bad national security adviser. what do you say? [ male announcer ] your hard work has paid off. and you want to pass along as much as possible to future generations. at northern trust, we know what works and what doesn't. as one of the nation's largest wealth managers, we can help you manage the complexities of transferring wealth. seeking to minimize taxes while helping maximize what's passed along. because you just never know how big those future generations might be. ♪ expertise matters. find it at northern trust. >>> condoleezza rice, thanks for joining us pleasure to be with you. >> it has been about two years president obama has been in office. you are a former national security adviser, former secretary of state, former and now, again, college professor in american foreign policy. what grade would you give president obama? >> well, i only give grades to stanford students. but i believe that there's a lot of continuity in the policies that have been pursued. and while i may or may not agree with every decisio

of the senate intelligence committee dianne feinstein has confirmed that is not true even donald rumsfeld said it was. a let me guess this was another republicans this statement is not intended to be factually correct saying the thing right. that's very clear. if there's one thing that we can take away from the death of osama bin laden it's the war doesn't work bin laden wasn't killed because we have one hundred thousand troops on the ground in afghanistan he was killed thanks to support her intelligence gathering intelligence by the way that was not gathered through the use of torture as has donald rumsfeld who split simply said the useful intel did not come from torture and he was killed thanks to an elite force of navy seals two dozen a number who were able at swift swiftly on the intelligence and move in with a surgical operation with no collateral damage and with no one even knowing it happened until after they were done president obama didn't need a bullhorn on a pile or rubble or to make a dramatic landing on an aircraft carrier in half a bottle country back to the stone age and th

is holed up in tora bora we're under spells that rumsfeld then contacts general franks and says you've got to freshen the invasion plan for iraq franks was in the process of dealing with the tora bora case so there was a direct probably and i honestly don't think i mean even if you're in the pentagon some people are dealing with iraq while they're in tora bora i don't see a direct connection there but they'll be great but i don't see any time commitment let me answer to your question about waterboarding and it's you know bush had nothing to do with this that's not exactly clear at this point what we know is that a piece of the intelligence came from chaos and clean shaikh mohammad who was water boarded and it's very likely that a piece of that information it's actually during times of the information name of the name of the courier great come from. and it came during the stockholm syndrome style interrogations where you make friends with a guy you get him to talk this is explicitly now or in the press are this moment as we saw it i look at that time but i don't know if it's clear it's

well i think definitely somebody whose opinion on this is very valuable is mr gone old rumsfeld he was being interviewed on sky news and he said one thing about obama is that he was elected on the promise of being everything george bush wasn't that's what he campaigned on the basis of he said however since obama became the president he has kept all of bush's policies whether it's the defense secretary robert gates or anything else but me personally i would disagree with mr rumsfeld and say he's extended further than george bush has when saddam or bay is still open george bush did go on pakistan but not to the extent that obama has done george bush did not bomb yemen obama has bombed yemen george bush did not bomb libya obama has been gloopy or you know this is an extension of the george bush policy in my view and that was lowkey musician poet playwright and local activists. well there are so many who believe these strong words may not translate into action and even if they do it's unclear who the winners and losers will be many of the refs the president spoke about randeep and is actua

on memoirs that have been produced including by bush that there was this case where bush goes to rumsfeld and says we've got to refocus on iraq this isn't this is we're when mom is holed up in tora bora we're always fails rumsfeld then contacts general franks and says you got to freshen the invasion plan for iraq franks was in the process of dealing with the tora bora case so there was a direct and i honestly don't think i mean even if you're so you have people in the pentagon some people are dealing with iraq while they're in tora bora i don't see a direct connection there but we. couldn't let me let me answer time your question about waterboarding and if so you know bush had nothing to do with this that's going to exactly clear at this point what we know is that a piece of the intelligence came from k s m clean shaikh mohammad who was water boarded and it's very likely that a piece of that information it's actually in the meantime says it you know that information again of the name of the courier great come from great shaikh muhammad and it came during the stockholm syndrome style inter

hussein one of the kills fathers so there was a personal he i he also and then and then you got don rumsfeld this is thomas frank just let me show a little clip from from a piece that i was for so here we are in crystal city. here where a stone's throw from the pentagon and this is sort of the heart of the military contractor world on this and you see k.b.r. which stands for kellogg brown and root formerly a subsidiary of halliburton and now they're sort of famous or infamous depending on how you want to put it. for managing or i suppose mr managing the logistics of the occupation of iraq and over here you've got general dynamics one of the biggest defense contractors of them all making fighter planes that all that sort of thing and just down the road we have asked lockheed martin boeing another giant sci c. complex and many many more they're all right here right next to the pentagon so that everyone can conveniently get together and sign contracts and. you know the launch and have fun together the building that we're standing in front of so that was my my third theory was probably don rumsf

the building that we're standing in front of now so that was my my third theory was probably don rumsfeld was hanging out with these guys as he has much of his life i mean he had the businessman he was. president sirleaf he's been he's had his fingers a lot of pots the possible there really were three different agendas operating i don't think you're being too conservative when i teach this case study it women marry on the george washington university my students usually arrive at least six through them time seven or eight motivate what i missed that you left out for example douglas feith a card carrying member of the party who was interested only in the security of israel and what the removal of iraq and then later iran and syria would do for that security you had other people it's as was intimated here maybe even the presidents who were looking at finishing what had started in the first war and motivated somewhat perhaps by the fact that saddam had tried to kill his father and you had people who were looking at it from a very philosophical neo conservative perspective let's bring chaos b

former secretary of defense rumsfeld. >> it's clear they worked and to have taken them away i think was mistake. >> reporter: and dick cheney with praise for president obama. >> you have to give him a lot of credit for making the decision to have the seal team 6 conduct the raid that got bin laden. no question that was his responsibility, and i think he handled it well. high marks for making that decision. >> reporter: melanie alnwick, fox 5 news. >>> coming up, redskins' former executive director weighs in on the draft. >>> mother nature is working for us. no shortage of sunshine in the week ahead. wait until i tell you how long it sticks around. we'll be back after the break.          >>> hopefully all our mothers had a nice mother's day today. 74degrees at national. same at dulles, and 75 at baltimore. nice day, just an odd sprinkle here and there. other than that, fairly well for all other mothers. we've got 59 degrees in annapolis and 56 at baltimore. light win, nothing much to be concerned with there. had the odd sprinkle or two and light sho

secretary rumsfeld, good to see you.> thifirst of all, how did you receive the news? >> well, my staff called and i turned on the television and was able to see the good news and was impressed by the spontaneous demonstrations we have seen across the united states. there is clearly an understanding that this is an important event. >> let me ask you about where he was found. he was found not in a cave along the border between pakistan and afghanistan. he was found in a rather up scale neighborhood in a town about 35 miles from islamabad. does that surprise you? >> obviously the conventional thinking was that he was in the federally administered tribal areas in pakistan, not in the urban areas near the capitol. this is a man who called the united states a paper tiger and assumed that the united states would do nothing, that we would continue to not really react. he's a person that urged muslims to kill americans. and so the fact that he's been killed and is no longer a factor is an important one. this is an intelligence pr

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we were you know did we do a greater disservice to the world oh i remember secretary of defense rumsfeld i seem to question if we're recruiting four or five for every one we kill tell me how we're winning and so i agree with jeremy in the sense that this sort of action and satisfy and i certainly agree with jeremy too that there are some people who probably feel like justice has been served and i can empathize and sympathize with them still stephen walt's piece recently about why do they hate us where we've killed two hundred eighty eight thousand of them and they've killed ten thousand of us that's a pretty alarming statistic and i think well it's got a point there in his conservatism is two hundred eighty eight thousand very conservative too and there are bigger challenges there are huge challenges confronting us right now not just in this limited world of managing terrorism but also confronting the united states for its overextension of its forces its presence on the periphery of its empire and so forth so yeah ok this is good great powers don't revel in revealed great powers or magna

." >> rumsfeld: ...anyone in the building felt the impact, it was so powerful. >> woman: i look in the... and i remember that smoke. >> man: ....the pentagon, quite clearly you could see black smoke rising up, it was just awful. >> bernard salamone: and i said, "my wife works there," and i hadn't...( choking up )... ...i hadn't heard from her. >> woman: i got out the office roster and started calling people: "have you heard from anybody?" >> and then next i checked the voicemail, and there was about 30 messages on the voicemail, and i started going down, and i was hoping that jan had called, and then when i got down to three, my hope started dwindling. >> bush: as long as the united states of america is determined and strong, this will not be an age of tyranny. this will be an age of liberty, here and across the world. >> americans awoke on september 12, 2001, with the realization that our nation was changed forever. we were living in a new world, with history broken into the pre-9/11 era and the post-9/11 era. >> gen. richard myers: there probably wasn't any other event that made us u

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in an interview on cnn's "american morning" rumsfeld got a little impatient with a question from ali. during -- while you were defense secretary, the bush administration had both said that -- had said at one point that capturing osama bin laden was the most important thing to do in the fight against terrorism. and then subsequently, we started to hear that it wasn't all that important. which one is it? is this the biggest thing we have achieved in the fight against terrorism, or is it not really that important? >> oh, i think that it's a false construct. >> well -- what part -- what part is a false construct? >> just a minute, and i will answer your question. >> go ahead. >> the important thing to do is to protect the american people. that is critical. and to do that, obviously, capturing or killing the head of al qaeda was enormously important. and -- but what -- the reason it was important was to protect the american people, and if one looks back over close to a decade now, there's not been a major successful attack on america for close to a decade. so obviously, it was highly succ

. >>> this morning on the "today" show, former secretary of state donald rumsfeld stressed osama bin laden's death does not mark the end of al qaeda. >> we have, in a given region, killed the -- killed or captured the head of daed and within hours someone took his place. we have to assume this isn't the end of radical islamists trying to kill americans. there are others out there. he will be replaced. and the key is the fact that the bush administration and the obama administration have put pressure on the terrorists and that's what resulted in the intelligence and the information that led to the killing of osama bin laden and over time will lead to the killing of whoever succeeds him. >> rumsfeld say u.s. intelligence and military should be attentive right now to avoid possible retaliation. >>> with the death of bin laden, some are worried about what this will mean for america's relationship with the muslim world. today a reporter for arabic tv news channel al arabiya said muslims will most likely not be upset with bin laden's death because of his murderous past. >> in the arab worl

. ♪ >>> former defense secretary donald rumsfeld was on "the today show" this morning where he said heo see americans celebrating the death of osama bin laden, but he also warned that the country needs to be alert to the possibility of yet another attack. >> there has been intelligence that suggested that if osama bin laden were ever captured or killed that there would be a violent attack on america or europe in one way or another, and i think it's important that our intelligence organizations and military around the world are very attentive during this period. >> rumsfeld served as defense secretary under president george w. bush. he held that position on the day of the 9/11 attacks. >>> homeland security officials say there's no plan to raise the terror threat level after bin lad laden's death, but here in washington authorities are stepping up security over concerns about possible retaliation attacks. pat collins is live in chinatown with what we may see here in the district. pat? >> reporter: doreen, cops out with those big guns, increased security all around the town. >> this incr

you're on the side of biden and rumsfeld versus some of the others that like large footprint operationsly appreciate that. [ laughter ] >>> i want to go to you for the last question, evan. as far as the past, i'm with steve. i was in favor of going into afghanistan in the first place, but it's now a much different war, nearly ten years later. i'm not sure at this point that it's helping. let's talk about what we do in the future. yemen, a powerful escalade force in yemen, what do we do there? maybe it makes sense if it was a sit -- yemen was where they launched attacks against some of our planes recently. or do we go with the surgical strikes? >> there's no real easy answers. the answer is there's a cost/benefit analysis to both those options. if you try to invade, there's absolutely no doubt, you'll turn a lot of people in that country against the united states. it's a chaotic country. i don't think that's a great option. about you if you look at what we're doing right now, we're bakley doing that, swatting at flies. we're firing missiles, launching special forces raids. we don't seem

donald rumsfeld said this this week. water boarding, let's be blunt, did not produce an enormous amount of intelligence, to say that they just aren't facing the truth. how do you respond? >> first of all, i'm not going to comment on specific pieces of intelligence in the source. point two, i can tell you this. that the intelligence achievement here, the intelligence assessment that was brought before president obama beginning in the summer of last year which resulted in hundreds of pieces of intelligence over many years by the cia and other institutions in the government, no single piece of intelligence led this. david, that's not the way this works. over time, you have professionals combing through this and the case goes cold and it heats up again, right? >> but a specific point. did harsh interrogation help in the effort to ultimately identify where he was? >> no single piece of intelligence led to this. now, we had -- >> both things could be true. but can you address my question? did harsh interrogation help in the hu