. >> priest: the cia was very much in front of the military, and that bothered rumsfeld greatly. and he would write memos saying, "this cannot stand. we have to create a capacity ourselves." >> rumsfeld: the only defense against terrorism is offense. you have to simply take the battle to them. how do you do that? you don't... you don't do it with conventional capabilities. you do it with unconventional capabilities. >> immerman: rumsfeld was something of an empire builder, you know-- to create as much power in his department as possible. >> narrator: quietly, rumsfeld expanded the pentagon's most secret group: joint special operations command, jsoc. >> immerman: it provided a capability within the pentagon that the pentagon didn't have before and was not considered appropriate for the pentagon to have before. >> narrator: buried deep inside the pentagon bureaucracy, rumsfeld anointed jsoc with power and money. >> macgregor: one of the reasons that secretary rumsfeld became very enamored of special operations forces was the readiness of special operations forces to deploy and do w

donald rumsfeld says they're still trying to pass the buck. he's on the grill with me tonight live. >>> plus, horrifying revelations of abuse and terror. amanda berry, gina dejesus, michelle knight hidden in the van in the garage when he had visitors. beaten with hand weights. ariel castro's common law wife abused the same way. gina and michelle have spoken by phone. and after all these years in captivity, one of the girls has discovered what an iphone is. >>> also tonight, law and disorder. on the docket, jodi arias fighting for her life. >> the last thing that mr. alexander felt was this knife, this woman, and this blade coming towards him. >> the jury finds she was extremely cruel. that means she is eligible for the death penalty. the question is, will she get it? and super sized o.j. simpson never testified during his murder trial. now he has finally taken the stand. >> do you think that you were acting legally? >> yes, i did. >> in what you were doing? >> yes, i did. >> and why is that? >> well, it was my stuff. i followed what i thought

donald rumsfeld has a lot to say about this.secretary's new book is "rumsfeld rules" and joins me now on the grill. welcome to you, sir. >> thank you very much. >> how are you? >> excellent. >> we'll try and change that. >> come on. come on. >> you've been in this position where you get hit with all sorts of stuff. and it all comes at once. when you look at these three scandals in totality, are they real scandals or run of the mill issues that any white house has to deal with? >> well, one is bad. two is four and three is ten. the pressure is enormous in the white house when this happens. it's the perfect storm. and we all have watched enough of our history to know that beg and bad things can start from very small things. and the old rule is that -- there are two rules in washington. the first rule is, the cover-up is worse than the event. and the second rule is no one remembers the first rule. >> let's start with cover-up. because i'm going to come to the irs, which i think is arguably as my two fellow kponlcorrespon said earli

donald rumsfeld has more to say about this, and his new book is "rumsfeld rules," he joins me.xcellent. >> well, we'll try and change that. >> come on, come on. >> you have been in this position where you get hit with all sorts of stuff and it all comes like number nine bus, all at once. when you look at these three scandals in totality are they real scandals or run of the mill issues that any white house has to deal with? >> well, one is bad. two is four, and three is ten. it -- the pressure is enormous in the white house when this happens. it is the perfect storm. and we all have watched enough of our history to know that big and bad things can start from very small things. and the old rule is that there are two rules in washington. the first rule is the cover-up is worse than the event. and the second rule is, no one remembers the first rule. >> well, let's start with cover-up, because i want to come to the irs. which i think is arguably, which my two fell correspondents said are the most important to americans. but benghazi, the republicans continue to say what is about a c

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we continue with donald rumsfeld. and his new book rumsfeld's rules is now out in bookstores. for being here. what is one less son or rummy rule, as you sean likes to call it, that you think this administration ought to apply immediately? >> good question. >> it is a good question. i think that the crisis -- they are in a crisis. that's for sure. and how do you manage a crisis? i think what you do is you -- i learned it when i was a navy pilot. when you are lost, the rule is you climb to get altitude, you conserve your fuel, and you confess. climb, conserve and confess. that's what you do. we've all been lost. and what they have to do, it seems to me, is just full stop and find out what ground truth is and tell the american people what ground truth is. >> you know why that can't happen? because this president is radical. it goes against the grain of everything that he believes in who he is. disagree? >> i never took any courses in psychiatry. >> okay. k. t., we will go to you. >> you have been on the national scene for two generations. you have met everybody. you have met all

rumsfeld say? >> mrs. rumsfeld, whose name is joyce, and i met when we were 14 in high school.have been married since 1954, and if it were a little earlier in the evening i would tell you how many years that's been. [laughter] but i don't want to guess and be wrong. but what she says to me when i go off on a book tour is, don, avoid being infatuated with or resentful of the craft. they have their job and you have yours. and pretty good advice when you're dealing with the press. i take that advice about half the time. [laughter] >> you've been at so many different levels of the government, including secretary of defense. when you were there you would know all the inner workings of how the government works. with regard to benghazi, what's the time when it should the president have known what was going on? and did he know and just not saying that he does know? [laughter] >> it seems to me that a leader, if people are being killed, gets people in the office, talks to them and says, i want ground troops. what's happened, how did it happen, what do we do to save some lives, and how d

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who was cheney's -- and rumsfeld wasn't doing very well. and less people in the white house and bush circle were saying you got to dump rumsfeld. and cheney did not want to do it. chris: was in a thinking that maybe he was wrong to go to iraq and that was part of -- >> no one's ever documented that. chris: not documented. >> rationally you would say there have to be some second doubts. but if you ask bush, i mean, he kept saying about iraq, we're better off that saddam is gone. and that saddam didn't have weapons of mass destruction. but had weapons of mass destruction programs. which is true. is that sufficient reason for war, gloria is quite right. the public -- overwhelmly that was not a necessary war. >> here's the interesting thing about dick cheney to me. i spoke with him early on in his vice-presidency. he said this is why it works so well. because i told the president i have no ambition for higher office. and i can -- therefore give him my unvarnished advice. i'm not going to worry about the political ramifications. well, that is ex

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he'll need it. >> let's talk about this book "rumsfeld's rules." first of all what do you say to critics who say they don't really have a great feeling about your leadership when it came to the wars and they wonder why you would write a book? >> these are not all rumsfeld's rules. these are rules from people that are a lot wiser than i am. i've collected them over my lifetime and i guess what i would say to people like that is read the book. >> read the book. is there one particular rule you would wish you would give to president obama and that he would heed it? >> well, i think that the -- i would. when i was a navy pilot, the rule if you're lost is to climb, conserve, and confess. get some altitude. take a deep breath, get on the radio and say, you're lost. you need to heed -- >> you think he's lost? >> oh, my goodness. if they keep saying things that are different week after week after week whether benghazi or whether it's the internal revenue service, what you need to do is get the people in the office, sit them down, and find ground truth. the

jon: hold on. ( cheers and applause ) aren't you donald rumsfeld? i assume you're about to say something like i can't imagine possibly commenting on something like this, given my dubious relationship with good governance. >> i can't imagine how a person could stand up there when everyone involved knew it was a terrorist attack. the idea that it was somehow related to a you tube video and that that narrative kept being promoted, i suppose it's because it fit their hopes and what they wanted to be the indication. ... what they wantedded to be the case. >> jon: thank you, donald rumsfeld. i was thinking there was no way to overreach. you believed the obama administration is promoting a narrative, not because it's real but because it fits their hopes and what they want to be the case? you? senior w.m.d. magill cutty, esquire. the guy who wanted to go after saddam hussein on 9/11 while the president was still reading "my pet goat"? you? and somehow managed to make that attack happen even though saddam hussein had nothing to do with 9/11? rumsfeld is germ

on the grave of the outrage over of the games they wanted donald rumsfeld had disclosed to the top over naked pyramids remember that the media covered it like crazy people nobody died and a naked pyramid first of all someone did die so that's absurd but what is your response to when you hear things like i mean i'm sure. by what she had to say and i'm shocked by views that way i mean what happened at abu ghraib is certainly a deep scar on this country's history and something that we must take seriously and it's certainly not. you know not not is what she's saying it's really an issue and something that we should really pay attention to absolutely who are these three men that are pursuing this lawsuit that what they experience to make them want to do it while it's for money in total have brought forward a lawsuit and the experience the torture that you described in your opening the experience everything from having dogs on the experience having it with bodily harm emotional harm so these these individuals were the victims these individuals were the victims in the pictures the ones that we

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you see you know the people at the top he's kind of mocking them at fox news oh they're blaming rumsfeld i mean he really is the person at the top of this this pyramid of course they can throw people into the bus but it doesn't change what really happened so is it a question of just raising awareness pressure in homeland security i mean really what are the chances of then relinquishing their hold on this case and what can people do to help this happen and really get these people's restoration well i'm hoping that it's not just raising awareness we want to see results we want to see this move forward who want to see this into these individuals given the. opportunity to come to the us and have their day in court and what we could what we could hope to do and what we continue keep doing is putting pressure on homeland security continue writing our letters making our phone calls and the advocacy portion of it so that it's going to take some work but we're optimistic that this could be resolved in these individuals could be given the opportunity to tell their side of the story let's hope that

hour with a hilarious view of rumsfeld's book.tephanie: all right. hour number 3, current tv land jacki schechner the war on women just when you thought there was a lull -- >> yeah? >> stephanie: it's back. miscarriaged would be required to be reported to the police or risk going to jail for a full year. virginia republican selected this guy to replace tea party guy ken cuccinelli -- >> this is the same guy that compared planned parenthood to the kkk. >> stephanie: right. this is a bill he just introduced. so in a moment of private tragedy, you'll have to get on down to the police. >> this is a man clearly sensitive to women's concerns and bodies. >> stephanie: and you thought transvaginal bob was bad. >> leave it to virginia i guess. >> stephanie: here she is jacki schechner in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody. president obama gave a short statement last hour, pledging the nation's support for those effected in oklahoma. >> obama: the people of moore should know that their country will remain on the ground ther

, you heard us, that's right, the donald rumsfeld. and a lot more. twice he was -- he's got quite the resumÉ. >> through it all, he learned a lot of life lessons, everything from the four rules of a happy marriage to why everyone should own a dog. >> i'm a total fan. i just got her one. >> you have to. we made a deal when we got married, and that was a long time ago. 1954, we got married. we'd always have a dog. >> you're going to tell us in a moment why that's helpful. but first we want to hold up the book. >> it's called "rumsfeld's rules." >> we're delighted that you're here but i have a little confession to make. a few years ago i had an assistant who shall remain nameless, named mickey. and she was so in love with you. she called yummy rummy. >> oh no. >> and that's all i could think of as you walked in. yummy rummy is here today. >> that was a long time ago. >> no, maybe about ten years and you're the fitness freak. you still got it. >> i play squash. >> and you work out every day, don't you? >> a little bit. >> there are a lot

. >> the entire group that calls itself the vulcans, the vice president, rumsfeld, wolf wiet, rice, all of these people who walked bush national security in the year before bush became president i think they all came in with an agenda that had iraq on the top of the list or certainly in the top three and they wanted to overthrow saddam hussein. >> meeting notes from the afternoon of 9/11 showed donald rumsfeld tasking a top aide to find the best info fast. good enough to hit saddam hussein. he asks the aide to get evidence from wolfowitz of a saddam connection with ubl, osama bin laden. >> we all looked at each other like, what are you talking about? who the hell -- saddam hussein? bin laden hates him. he's a her atick. there's no connection between saddam hussein and al qaeda. >> the word goes out to the cia, fbi and all the intelligence services. find the connection. >> first, though, the war on terror goes to afghanistan. to capture or kill osama bin laden and destroy the taliban regime that supports al qaeda. by november, the enemy is on the run, forced to flee into the mountains an

meanwhile former defense secretary donald rumsfeld the obama administration ever blamed the video. >> i can't imagine how a person could stand up there when everyone involved knew it was a terrorist attack, it was the anniversary of 9/11. the people were not demonstrators. they were well-armed. >>gretchen: ambassador susan rice went on five sunday talk shows, as you know, after the attack and blamed the video. >> james bond would have been ashamed. an american diplomat accused of being a spy ordered out of the country. a third secretary at our embassy was caught with a spy kit suitable for a ten-year-old, wearing a really bad blonde wig. you see it on him there. wait until you see when he stands up. i hope we have that. russia claims he tried recruiting a russian intelligence officer. fogel has been handed over to the u.s. embassy. he has diplomatic immunity that protects him from arrest. the state department only says he is an embassy

>> they're not all rumsfeld's.eople have read your rules before. this is from your father. you wrote your father during world war ii and you said you were going to quit the boy scouts to play sports. your father wrote back, do you remember it? >> he said, that's terrific, don, go ahead and quit the boy scouts. he said, next month you can quit something else, then -- pretty soon you'll be a good quitter. i wrote that down. >> and that became a lifetime of collecting quotes. >> right. my mother was a school teacher so she started me off -- i still carry a three by five card -- >> to write something down -- >> if someone says something memorable, you'll see me write it down. >> you also say bad news does not get better with time. if you mess up, fess up. i like that one. >> absolutely. >> why is that important? >> it's important because people can procrastinate. they can see something that's a problem. and think, well, maybe it will go away or maybe it will get better with time. that's particularly true of personnel m

martha: we'll be joined by donald rumsfeld.get his take on what he thinks about this now coming up. bill: there are growing questions over how the white house handled the irs scandal and whether the president knew anything about the targeting of conservative groups by the tax agency. reports say that several senior aids knew about it but tried to shield the president from any second term scandal that might jeopardize his presidency. that's a claim not everyone believes. >> it's inconceivable to me the president wouldn't know. i just put myself in his shoes. i deal with my senior staff every day. and if the white house had known about this which now it appears they have known about it for about a year, it's hard to imagine it wouldn't have come up in some conversation. bill: jonah goldberg, good morning to you. i want to get to what speaker boehner said in a moment. but you see a different view of this. you believe it's not so important what the president knew and we did not know. but you see that as a distraction to the bigger

is the rumsfeld who not only supervise the planning for extreme interrogation but he also arranged for justice department memos to approve these additional techniques in fact he was so encouraging he even made jokes about how certain methods weren't harsh enough. he even personally senate general to abu ghraib in order to get mo wise the facility making clear that physical pressures and degradation were more than appropriate so as we think about the legacy of the iraq war and let's not forget about one of its darkest moments the grave in the criminals responsible continue to rock the core of our so-called democracy along with every principle and ideal that america claims to hold so dear. ghraib scandal was a shocking revelation of the horrifying torture tactics of the us government capable of inflicting against prisoners of war following the initial outrage eleven u.s. military personnel were tried in charge what happened at the torture victims what happened to hundreds of iraqis who pass through the prison enduring everything from sexual humiliation to physical abuse while three of th

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[laughter] >> i spent four years writing my book "rumsfeld's rules" and i kept thinking about "rumsfeld's" and i decided this started because another was a schoolteacher. i would ask her what a word meant in she would tell me to look it up and write it down and i would carry three by five cards like this and i still do to this day. she said by the end of the week reid them and remind yourself what they mean and i would write down thoughts or ideas are stuff that i thought was important i did that as a young man as a boy scout as a navy pilot when i was in congress and then i resigned from congress in 1969 with my fourth term and went into the nixon cabinet and served in the office of economic opportunity. and i started to make notes about that. and when ford came in he called me back to share his transition then i observed as the chief of staff i mentioned one rule and he said what is that? he was the legislator never serving in the executive position and i said i keeps those little rules and i don't know what i said this negative did not say the white house is calling. buildings can call

wanted to change that rumsfeld in many ways tried to make the pentagon more like the cia just as the cia was becoming more like the pentagon he was trying to expand but it got authority to go to send soldiers in the places where soldiers to normally go to gather human intelligence i think that by the end of the bush administration the pentagon really did have those authorities but as you said president obama really has relied on the cia in part because the pentagon has been tied down in the big wars and i think that there is a. presidents have seen this sort of seductive power of using secret of carrying out wars and secrecy secret in the c.i. . they offer secrecy now most most of the time they don't remain secret you can't keep a drone a campaign of drone strikes entirely secret but at least there's some deniability built in at the same time i have to ask about the cia accountability we do know that the seal teams were actually put under the control of the cia because the u.s. military was not allowed to go into pakistan because we're not in war so talk about the accountability on t

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. >> but you mentioned "great leadership" so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. >> (laughter). >>ch the show. >> only on current tv. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. (vo) she's joy behar. >>current will let me say anything. ♪ >> michael: mother's day is about breakfast in bed, brunch new scarves, earrings and macaroni necklaces and of course flowers, but for many like the parents of sandy hook elementary, it was their first mother's day without a loved one. since then 3,988 americans have died a result of gun violence. if you break it down that's 135 new townes since newtown. just incredible. shots rang out at a new new orleans parade yesterday. thankfully no one was killed in new orleans there. but it's another clear example of what can happen when guns are involved. something clearly has got to change. joining me now to determine what we can do to fix this is chair the california democratic party women's caucus, christine pelosi. welcome back inside "the war room" as a

. >>> former secretary of defense donald rumsfeld supported ending don't ask, don't tell but so sure about same sex marriage. he's not sure if marriage equality is a civil rights issue. >> i was proud of the work that the congress did in the 1964 legislation and 1965 legislation. i guess i just don't equate the two. it's not a subject i'm knowledgeable about. the rumsfeld rule here is i don't know. >>> gun rights advocates are suing the state of connecticut over its tough new crackdown on firearms. they claim laws ban aggravated assault weapons and large capacity magazines violate their second amendment rights. >>> paul ryan is taking a break from writing the federal budget to write his own book. the national review says he'll combine personal history with his political philosophy and touch on his 2012 vp run with mitt romney. >>> and who hasn't misplaced a few million bucks every now and then? president obama's billionaire nominee to be the next commerce secretary can raise her hand in that. in disclosures, she underestimated her income by some $80 million. she said it was an accide

. >> but you mentioned "great leadership" so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. >> (laughter). >> watch the show. >> only on current tv. >> announcer: heard around the country and seen on current tv this is the "bill press show." >> bill: hey 25 minutes after the hour. yes, indeed, i want the i.r.s. to be tough. i want the i.r.s. to go after tax cheats. i would suggest the i.r.s. might want to start with the companies that take jobs overseas then don't pay tacks on the profits they're making overseas. i would like to start with the oil companies and the big cruise lines and the big banks that are recording record profits and not paying any on profits. the way they're doing it. going after these -- conservative right wing political organizations. some of whom may deserve -- but making that their sole purpose going after groups that have constitution somewhere in their title or -- they just -- there's no defending it. there's just no defending it. >> we're on twitter at bpshow. you can find us there. rahm says the i.r.s. is out of line. but so are the tax-exempt statuses where are t

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