for donald rumsfeld. they would later be tied together in many different ways with the department of defense. he held a number of jobs in the next in administration, generally working with donald rumsfeld as a kind of assistant to him or second to him. when rumsfeld went off to become an ambassador, he left the white house, probably just at the --ht time, considerably considering what ultimately happened with the nixon administration. when gerald ford took over, he brought donald rumsfeld back to be chief of staff, and rumsfeld brought dick cheney in to be his assistant chief of staff. sure enough, rumsfeld then moved to the department of defense. dick cheney became the youngest chief of staff at the white house in history. dick cheney was a bright light, young man -- very young man for that job -- who was getting a lot of notice and already have this quality for working with people in which he could sit quietly in a meeting, kind of assessed the room, and then make the right maneuvers for his boss, the p

and rumsfeld brought dick cheney to be the assistant chief of staff. light, a young man for that job getting a lot of notice foralready had this quality working with people in which he could sit quietly at a meeting, and of assess the room, then make the right maneuvers for his boss, the president in a or that didn't showboat didn't take the spotlight or anything like that. things done.ly got when the ford administration left the white house, dick kind of went on a road trip. he left washington, d.c. and back to wyoming and with the tough campaign with ford house. to win the white they lost. so he came back to wyoming as something of a fair haired boy. man in his 30s. well known. nationally now. he knew interestingly he knew coming back to wyoming the should do is walk in as a politician in washington, d.c. to work for wyoming. did what politicians in wyoming do is you go door-to-door. can is a state where you meet almost everybody who's going to vote in an election. it's still true. when certainly true cheney first campaigned to go to congress that yo

including with paul wolfowitz, donald rumsfeld's second in command.t the pentagon with just two months until the invasion, attention turns to what will run iraq in the immediate days and weeks after the fall of saddam. retired army lieutenant general jay garner, a man with deep experience in the region, gets the call from donald rumsfeld. >> he said, we need somebody to come in, put a staff together and operationalize the plans we put together. you think if you're going to put that together you'd have office space, desk, computers, telephones and all that. i didn't even have a chair. >> that lack of planning when it comes to basic post-saddam governance stands in stark contrast to the level of planning that's already well under way for iraq's oil sector. >> there was a very strong sense of urgency. it was 12, 15-hour days from what i remember. they knew where every pipeline, every refinery, gas plant, oil field, gas oil separation plant was. people said we didn't plan very well for iraq. i would take exception to that when it came to the oil sector. >

rumsfeld left to become an he left the white house. gerald ford became president, he brought in donald rumsfeld and he brought in dick staff.to be chief of when rumsfeld move to department chaney was a bright light. for that jobman who was getting a lot of notice had this quality of working with people. a could sit quitely in meeting and make the right his boss who did not show boat but got things done. the ford administration left the white house, dick cheney went on a road trip. he left washington, d.c. and to wyoming and thought seriously about getting where she wasn the guy getting elected, not working for people. through a tough campaign with ford trying to win the white house. lost. he came back to wyoming as a boy.haired he was a young boy in his 30's, now.known nationally he knew coming back to wyoming should doast thing he is walk in as a politician and greate himself as a success from washington, d.c. working for wyoming. he did what politicians do. you go door-to-door and it is still true. it is certainly true when chaney ca

which is fostered to a great extent by two names that very familiar to you, did cheney -- donald rumsfeld at that time was the undersecretary of defense and separation of the national security act and the department of defense. ironically, he became the oldest secretary of defense in our history when he served for george w. bush. ford was followed of course by carter. carter was extreme and suspicious of the cia. his vice president was, too. carter usedime that where we did not send soldiers into combat. until the last year of his administration, there's really a walking away, at least a great reduction in covert action. 1979 whenhanged in the soviets invaded afghanistan. i think we reacted very vigorously and probably unwisely. i think it was napoleon who won seven adversaries did something stupid, leave him alone. the soviets were certainly doing something stupid. unfortunately, we replicated all of that and now we're finding a way out of that -- out of afghanistan. we started a covert action in afghanistan before the soviets invaded. i've always been convinced that zbigniew brzezinski

. >> jon:, i was saying the donald rumsfeld interview because he started a war for no reason and lied a lot about it, and kept lying about it even on the show, and i thought, oh, i'll nail him on that, and he'll be like [bleeped], it's the end of the road for old donnie rumsfeld, but i didn't. >> it didn't work? i don't think you can blame yourself for, that though. honestly. i'm just here to make you feel good about yourself. >> jon: can i just keep you around. >> i'll just whisper in your ear when you're feeling bad. >> jon: i feel like if i shake you, it will snow. it will snow. i'll keep you in a little globe, elizabeth, i just don't know what's going on with me, shook, shook, shook. >> i think you're doing great, jon. >> jon: thank you. that's very nice. what are we going to talk about, the one i love. >> comes out on august 27th. >> jon: we can't tell you the twist, but it's quite good. >> it's a relationship comedy about married couple going through hard time. ted danison plays a therapist and sends them away for the weekend and hijinks ensue. >> jon: but very entertaining hiji

you go to the memoirs of bush, rumsfeld, rice, all of them argued that it was intelligence. that is total nonsense. the intelligence is totally flawed and the people who knew knew that there was intelligence intelligence that said that there are no weapons of mass destruction in a rack. you get to bush and some of the conduct ints of cia the theater of conduct in operations. we're talking about secret prisons and a renditions policy. we're talking about detentions, torture's, and abuses -- detentions, torture, and abuse. in the u.s., clandestine operations. he comes into office with little background in national security affairs. he has not been in washington that much to be a political participant in how washington operates on a political level. he has never really demonstrated an intense concern. i always thought that he was intimidated by the military and central intelligence agency. you look at his national security team and it was extremely weak leaving robert gates in the defense department. it made no sense and it was caving in to the right-wing and conservatives in t

i heard the people weep about secretary rumsfeld. you don't know what a tough secretary of war staten is. if you wept about secretary rumsfeld, you'll commit harry caray over secretary staten, as he sends the message out, directing the president and his family to remove back to the white house. the guard, in company of the 150th pennsylvania, the buck tails, have left the soldier's home and will be stationed in another fort. the president will be up early on the morning of the 11th. the confederates had paused at rockville and john mccauselin with his calvary sweeps down the georgetown pike, now wisconsin avenue, arriving at tenially circle while the rest of the confederate army moves cross-country on farm roads leading from rockville to turn in to the 7th avenue extended, now georgia avenue. and by noon, they are approaching silver spring. the president, i can imagine the secret service. now, the secret service will not be responsible for the president's security until two other presidents have died at the hands of an assassin. not

i heard the people weep about secretary rumsfeld.message out, directing the president and his family to remove back to the white house. the guard, in company of the 150th pennsylvania, the buck tails, have left the soldier's home and will be stationed in another fort. the president will be up early on the morning of the 11th. the confederates had paused at rockville and john mccauselin with his calvary sweeps down the georgetown pike, now wisconsin avenue, arriving at tenially circle while the rest of the confederate army moves cross-country on farm roads leading from rockville to turn in to the 7th avenue extended, now georgia avenue. and by noon, they are approaching silver spring. the president, i can imagine the secret service. now, the secret service will not be responsible for the president's security until two other presidents have died at the hands of an assassin. not until the summer of 1902 does the secret service become responsible for the big man in the white house. you can imagine him on that day as the president goes ou

have their mouths spackled shot that they feel pretty good and want to feel good to see cheney or rumsfeld or the head of b.p. drop in a vat of oil covered in bread crumbs and packed furiously by exotic danger birds finally avenging their loss of appetite at yeah yeah. but we as a civilized society have decided we can't do those things even though they might feel good so we're opposed to all of that why are we not opposed to a racist faulty death penalty yeah don't even get to the races part studies have shown that the number one determinant of whether a defendant gets the death penalty is race of the victim of the victim this means we view murdering white people as worse than murdering black people so you could beat will smith or kerry washington to death with a tennis shoe and it's only a minor problem but if you touch a hair on screeches head. we will you up. we already have a horrible punishment for people who murder it's life in prison and life in prison is terrible but the difference is that when you find out the person didn't commit the crime but the four percent of innocent people

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new american century i it's been the decline since two thousand and one and cheney and bush and rumsfeld the invasion of iraq for oil yeah well we had a few minutes and i wanted to dig into this idea that these sanctions are going to be somehow a punishment to russia and what we're seeing now is the exact opposite once again the intended consequence of a policy is boomeranging in the opposite way and what what's happening now is that the world realizes that the u.s. is an ad of control rogue state and they're doing deals with themselves outside of the u.s. dollar they're doing deals china russia iran other countries are doing these massive currency swaps and economic deals outside of the us dollar and for russia quite frankly this is the greatest thing that could happen to them the sanctions because it's going to force them to diversify their economy which they have been reluctant to do for decades they've been overly reliant on the energy sector in the mill military sector and now if they're going to put these sanctions up with food and having the popularity that he has they can go in t

solidarity to the muslim communities protecting them from war on terror policies, refusing when donald rumsfeld said he wanted to create a region wyatt patriot act and so on and refused so on one hand you have the government adopted the position of solidarity, cultural diplomacy that stresses brazil's ties to africa and asia and this whole idea is that brazil is rooted in portugal, this other idea. en this leaves pop cultural consequences, you begin to get this pop oriental -- you begin to get an interest partly because of the law in 2003 mandating the teaching of black history in brazil, that would lead to the brazilian movements to look at the history of brazil particularly an interest in 1835, one of the greatest in the new world and largely muslim led. the revolt doesn't succeed the repercussions are incredible in fact it would unnerve europeans and americans, precip award. they are wondering about jihad in the south atlantic and i was curious, last summer i came across this group, a hip-hop collective that tries to use music to build a new identity, trying to retrieve the history, most fas

gas into a group of protesters, as the tension continues following the death of 18-year-old mike rumsfeld brown, who was shot by a ferguson police officer last weekend while he was unarmed. the governor of missouri issued a state of emergency and ordered a curfew to take effect between midnight and 5:00 sunday morning. several hundred protesters gathered in the streets in the rain as police stood by in riot gear. they used tear gas after another man was shot near the protest. officers say their priority is to maintain overall victsafety. >> we have a shooting victim. we had a man extended in the middle of the road with a handgun. we had a police car shot out, and yes, i think that was a proper response. >> seven people were arrested for failing to follow the curfew. some residents say the curfew is a violation of their first amendment rights. >>> meanwhile, back here in the bay area, cleanup after a protest in the east bay turned violent. more than 100 people took to the streets of oakland and berkeley on friday night. they are marching in support of the protesters. oakland police say the

if you wept over secretary er s rumsfeld, you wouldec commit hay caray over secretary stanfeld.onfederates have paused at rock veil and tired john mccausland sweeps down the now georgetown pike, now wisconsin avenue. driving tenley circle, while the rest of the confederate army moves cross country on farm roads, leading from rockville tn turn in to the seventh avenue extended now georgia avenue.by and by noon, they're approaching silver springs. the president, i can imagine the secret service. the secret service will not be responsible for the president'st security until two other of presidents have died at the hands of an assassin. not until the summer of 1902 does the secret service become o responsible for the big man in the white house. . you can imagine him on that day, as the president goes out and visits fort stevens and other ir forts. yes, he is here at fort stevensa on the afternoon of 1:00, on the 11th day of july. the confederates are in silver spring. men have moveddist across into district line. the president is going to be shot at. the next day he circulates. he m

i heard the people weep about secretary rumsfeld.e white house. the guard of the 150th pennsylvania, the bucktails, have left the soldiers home and will be be stationed at another fort. the president will be up early on the morning of the 11th. the confederates had paused at rockdale. and tired john mccoslin with his cavalry sweeps down the georgetown pike, now wisconsin avenue. arriving in contintinley circle the rest of the confederate army moves cross-country on farm roads, leaving from rockdale to turn in to the 7th avenue extended, now georgia avenue. and by noon, they are approaching silver spring. the president, i can imagine the secret service. now the secret service will not be responsible for the president's security until two other presidents have died at the hands of an assassin. not until the summer of 1902 does the secret service become responsible for the big man in the white house. you can imagine him on that day, as the president goes out and visits ft. stevens and other forts. yes, he is here at ft. stevens on the a

i heard the people weep about secretary rumsfeld.e. the guard, in company of the 150th pennsylvania, the buck tails, have left the soldier's home and will be stationed in another fort. the president will be up early on the morning of the 11th. the confederates had paused at rockville and john mccauselin with his calvary sweeps down the georgetown pike, now wisconsin avenue, arriving at tenially circle while the rest of the confederate army moves cross-country on farm roads leading from rockville to turn in to the 7th avenue extended, now georgia avenue. and by noon, they are approaching silver spring. the president, i can imagine the secret service. now, the secret service will not be responsible for the president's security until two other presidents have died at the hands of an assassin. not until the summer of 1902 does the secret service become responsible for the big man in the white house. you can imagine him on that day as the president goes out and visits fort stevens and other forts. yes, he is here at fort stevens on the af

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, amongst prominent democrats like the clintons, amongst conservatives like donald rums felt and rumsfeldly bush 41, as jeff and others have so well emphasized was cautious and prudent. but by the time of the 1992 presidential campaign, president bush 41 could not resist the temptation to take credit for the events of 1989 and 1990. he liked to say during the campaign, we brought about the fall of the iron curtain and the death of imperial communism. in 1992 the republican platform actually went further. it proclaimed quote, the fall of the berlin wall marks a change in the way people live. we republicans saw clearly the dangers of collectivism, not only the military threat, but the deeper threat to the soul of people bound in dependence. end quote. indeed, the dismantling of the wall and the ensuing collapse of communism in eastern europe and the ussr discredited government and further inspired the belief in the utility and superiority of free markets. not only among republicans. here in the united states the clinton administration actually went much further than its predecessors in dism

he and gates and condoleezza rice supplanted the influence of people like donald rumsfeld and paul wolfowitzuring the last two years of the second bush administration. but one consequence of his devoting himself to giving advice was that he had less time to get to management and he was criticized for this. whether his replacement was due to the advice that he gave for the need for more management was unclear about any event he accepted the deputy secretary of state where his achievements were a sensually first he pressed hard for elections in pakistan which ultimately were won by the civilian parties which had the effect of delegitimizing the more extreme islamists and even though they were immediately followed by the assassination of benazir bhutto and the second achievement was the deepening of relations with china. there were several dozen working groups established that had previously existed at the joint meetings of all kinds of american and chinese officials that were a sensually his accomplishment and that of the secretary of the treasury paulson who was very interested also in deepen

the obama justice department has intervened and defended people like donald rumsfeld. saying if they did all of the things, even if they killed all of those people, it would have been within the official scope of their duty. this white house has just picked up from where bush left off. if you throw into that, the prosecution of whistle blowers and the use of the espionage act, obama's looking like bush 2.0 more and more every day. >> i'm sure the administration would argue that the president is not at all a continuation of, you know, the bush -- >> in some ways, he isn't, certainly. >> there's a broader narrative emerging in the final years of this administration regarding secrecy, regarding monitoring. i want to get to a piece you have in the interception. which is a big story on the president's -- this administration's secret terrorist track system. and there are more people on the administration's terror watch list not connected to any known terrorist group than there are from al qaeda, from hamas and from hezbollah combined. how and why then are they on the list? >

donald rumsfeld is either a prophet or something forgotten.nd the was he is not a prophet. >> it may have been quack. >> it was the way you wrote it. way thisss in any politicsagement with or do you have a way to express that through sports? >> one of the things we were insistent upon -- you asked why we had to have meetings about espn. apart from the history, how do you take someone that has been to an entire generation of now adults as a political commentator -- they don't know about sport centers in the 1990's. you when i would like to think they are sitting at home with her nor pat with our resumes and fun of them -- oh, yes, charlie. this was his time in washington. your some of the highlights of keith's career and radio. they do not know. we have no right to expect them to know this. one of the things that we sat down and said -- i was very concerned -- is it going to be a turnoff that the people view me solely as a political commentator? iti don't want to watch because i love his politics and he is not doing all it takes -- politics. we

deal with the world as it is, not the world you wish you had at the risk of sounding like donald rumsfeld here. the president inherited a mess, got our troops out. there is a new problem now with isis. i think it's in the interest of the united states to contain at least contain isis. it's a humanitarian obligation to use our power. we have already affected the balance of power by earlier intervention in iraq whether we like it or not. >> congressman, the white house says there is no military solution to this. what's the purely political diplomatic way forward in iraq, given that? >> reverend, that's the end game. the political solution. as they said today from the white house, the military solution, whether it's through the humanitarian aid which i anticipate, through the strategic air strikes to break up access roads, so we can get supplies for the 40,000 refugees. i anticipate it as well. that doesn't give you the end game. the end game is malaki, a shia leader going to reach out to the sunnis. the moderate sunnis in the region that were on our side to kick out al qaeda many years ago.

rumsfeld's book, you read tone write blair's book, there are would people understood and it is not bush or cheney. we have to get this ideological war going and we rarely just are not even bothered to do it. >> scary stuff. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> that and -- isis has another american hostage and wants more than $6 million for the release. we don't do ransoms so that's the official american position. is there anything washington can do to save her? find out tonight at 8:00 p.m. >>> are these guys who have a beef with burger king about to eat their own birds? (son) oh no... can you fix it, dad? yeah, i can fix that. (dad) i wanted a car that could handle anything. i fixed it! (dad) that's why i got a subaru legacy. (vo) symmetrical all-wheel drive plus 36 mpg. i gotta break more toys. (vo) introducing the all-new subaru legacy. it's not just a sedan. it's a subaru. >>> boycott thing and head to the castle. that's what ohio democrat senator brown wants you to do. he is angry with the move and want people to eat at white castle instead. he doesn't blame burger king for wantin

. >> i was fascinate todd read donald rumsfeld, former secretary of defense, he would stand all day.> yes. >> he never sat at work. i'm in the sure if he had a back problem. >> those treadmills desk, people are really getting them people that work all day long in cubicles, they are raise up the desk and they just walk slowly but keeps them going and got to keep your energy up. >> keeps your blood flowing. >> they should have have a treadmill anchor desk for the news. >> it is already hot enough already in here. >> that is right. >> you ever notice there are some news folks who do an entire show standing up and that is why they do it. the desks are designed, we don't that have here we're sitting, with you keeps it going. i know. >> they are redoing the studio downstairs, suggestion box. >> if you are single or even if you are not do not miss this. daily news issue for sexy singleses out and a few philly finest will join us. there is one of them, coming up. >> yes. >>> good morning, will the 29. live look at penn's landing, heading outside in just a minute, first, sue, giggeling up, wh

jim baker, al hague, and don rumsfeld all are people that i know. all of whom have said the system that haldeman put in place there was absolutely spectacular. and that the modern white house today runs on the system that bob put in. he made a major contribution to the office of the presidency by what he got in place there. >> people want to understand that system. what should they look at? >> the staff secretariat system. how it works. how paperwork moves through. the whole option paper concept with the memorandums and the tabs and the staffing it out and making sure that clean, concise decisions could be made after proper considerations. just the flow. i mean gerry ford came in with this crazy hub spoke thing. no manager in their right mind would have because, i mean -- but after coming after nixon, it's understandable why he did it. it was a pr maneuver to say i'm here and anybody can walk in the door. that's just not the proper way to run something. all these guys are bright enough to know that. >> but one of the consequences of that approach is

vehicles, testing for marijuana use, and the challenges in-in creating a federal standard for donald rumsfeld -- driving under the influence of so-called recreational drugs. witnesses include a representative of the center for substance abuse prevention. this is an hour and 40 minutes. it's chaired by florida congressman john micah. >>> good morning. i'd like to welcome everyone to the committee on government oversight and reform and our subcommittee hearing this morning. this is the subcommittee on government operations. welcome our ranking member, mr. connolly, and other who is may join us this morning. the title of today's hearing is planes, trains, and automobiles -- operating while stoned. this, i believe, is our fifth hearing on the subject of the impact of changing laws on increasing use of marijuana in our society. and our subcommittee in particular has jurisdiction and part of our charter is the difference between federal and state laws and the relationships and whole host of issues that deal with, again, federal/state issues. and certainly in our most recent history there's probably

it is one of donald rumsfeld's known unknowns.kup in manufacturing will economykeep the growing. they may achieve the 7.5% growth target. >> it is good news? >> the flip side is, given the choice between moving on and implementing economic reform, which would mean a slowdown in growth, or filling of the punch bowl, they filled up the punch bowl. perhaps that was because there was opposition to reform. that is one of the factors behind thend i -- -corruption campaign. the longer you don't change the economy, the further you head into a dead-end. two keyave the economies, united states and china, showing great guns. you have geopolitical risks weighing on the market. buoyant about the relatively good data? or should we worry about stimulus on the west side? back inwe see a reining terms of jumping on assets? >> i think we should on the thinking this is good news. with the u.s., there is a risk the fed, because it is dovish, will hold off normalizing monetary policy. there may be a bit of an inflation problem. this is a year or two a

should the public start getting prepared for another long, hard slog like secretary rumsfeld talked about fighting al qaeda in the fight to eliminate isil? >> well, as to the comment about an imminent threat i think the evidence is pretty clear. when we look at what they did to mr. foley, what they threatened to do to all americans and europeans. what they are doing now, and i don't know any other way to describe it other than barbaric. they have no standard of decency, of responsible human behavior, and i think the records are pretty clear on that. so, yes, they are an imminent threat to every interest we have whether it's in iraq or anywhere else. you've heard me speak about the fact that we've gone from a narrow focus on al qaeda to the recognition that in the aftermath of the arab spring and the disenfranchised populations that i've described a lack of governance and sanctuary, failed states and declining nationalism. you've heard me talk about all of that and we've had groups that now kind of are loosely connected in some cases affiliated that run from afghanistan and the peninsula t

. >> don rumsfeld, the secretary of defense who put it, the number of knowns and the number of unknowns makes it a tricky guessing game when operating something like this, especially in this region. peter, your thoughts about the notion that right now as there are several americans being held hostage, one in direct threat right now, the journalist who was pictured in the same execution video as james foley, steven sotloff, do you expect there are several or any special operations being conducted as we speak? >> i don't know is the short answer. the plans for such an operation must be front and center. there are many risks. we've seen the british aid worker rescued by u.s. special operations in 2010 and she died in the rescue attempt when the u.s. navy s.e.a.l. dropped a grenade that killed her. so yes you have contingency plans but they're fraught with risks. of course isis is keenly aware that already one operation was launched and so they're presumably going to be very careful. we have two other americans that haven't been publicly disclosed. their napes haven't been disclosed. so it'

should the public be start getting prepared for another hard long slog like rumsfeld talked about fighting al qaeda in the fight to eliminate isil? >> as to the comment about implement threat, evidence is pretty clear when we look at what they did to mr. foley, what they threatened to do to all americans and europeans, what they are doing now, the -- i don't know any other way to describe it other than barbaric. they have no standard of decency of responsible human behavior. and i think the records are pretty clear on that. so yes, they are an imminent threat to every interest we have whether it's in iraq or anywhere else. >> you've heard me speak i think about the fact that we've gone from a narrow focus on al qaeda to the recognition that in the aftermath of the arab spring and these disenfranchised populations i've described, a lack of governance and sanctuary, fail states, declining nationalism, you've heard me talk about all that, that we actually have groups that are kind of loosely connected in some cases affiliated that run from afghanistan across the arabian peninsula into yemen t

in iraq isis is in large part a consequence of the debate that occasion efforts taken by donald rumsfeld after the saddam regime was toppled and then the decent occasion of mr maliki. your thoughts on that and where isis is coming from and where they're going when clearly isis has benefited from this vacuum but the emerged in the specially in the sunni areas and they have also benefited from war that's been going on both in iraq and to a lesser extent in syria for for the last several years but i think you are correct absolutely one comes to the point of what brought this about i think a process of cation which was huge they thought of as an excuse to remove almost many of the sunnis to marginalize a lot of sunnis has created a great deal of tension a greater degree deal of anger and frustration which made it easier for people and organizations such as isis to basically recruit gain the support of many angry sunni. and in other areas of northern iraq and the other thing was also the destruction as the i was mentioning earlier. the dismantling of the institutions of the iraqi state whethe

quarrel connection with the people in the region what you're missing is the first thing that don rumsfeld and l. paul bremer did when they took when we took over iraq was they fired everybody in the army half a million men and some from home with their weapons and they fired all the police which you know was another hundred thousand or thereabouts and so you've got all the people who are really good at using weapons really good taking down armies really good at killing people really good at putting down insurgencies the slaughter the shiites in the south and george herbert walker bush said you know we're we will protect you go protest a protest of three hundred thousand dollars these are the key people who did the killing i mean these were this is hard you know and the first thing that the bush administration does is throw them out on the street on the unemployment line and those people are making up the core of isis right now at least in iraq and they've been and they've been an insurgency all along i think that so i think that's a point claim i enormously our intelligence did not yet kn