returning the billion-dollar cut from ed rundell, we're talking about $4.5 billion. we believe his increases in spending would be about $6.5 billion in his term. the question is, how do you tax? where do you get the money? what is going to be fair? honestly, i think it is time is to wolf share his plans, rather than stand up here and say we are going to have to figure it out and i am going to sit down with the legislature and work with them, give us your plans. finally, we should have conversations about the state of delaware and incorporating in delaware, and not be incorporating here in pennsylvania. [applause] could, lay, if you out your plan. just last week the auditor general and the treasurer -- it should be noted, both democrats -- they pointed out that we borrowed money a couple of minutes -- a couple of months into the budget, and they insinuated this year's budget was put together with smoke and mirrors and one-time gimmicks. getthat there is no way to the numbers to add up without a tax increase. can it be done without a tax increase? or is this one of tho