it would just limit the runoff to the mayor's race. supervisor cohen: this is not just for the attorney? president chiu: i am proposing in be limited to the mayor's race and that the specific changes would be to have a run of system. the first election would be a rank choice of voting system. in other words, if there are multiple candidates that would use the system we had used for a number of years to determine who those top two candidates are, as we did in the most recent mayoral race, and then those two candidates would go into a december runoff. that is the proposal. supervisor cohen: supervisor -- thank you. supervisor: supervisor campos? supervisor campos: i am trying to understand the proposal. if you are saying you do not want to eliminate the right choice of voting for all city offices, but you are ok eliminating it for everything except for the mayor, what is the policy rationale for that, and second, it the focus is on the mayor, why act today in 2012 when the mayor's race is not happening for another few years? supervisor o

if there is no majority, you could have a runoff in december. when a candidate gets a majority in the november election, the cost of the second election is saved. do i have to stop? on a personal note, my father was involved in the civil rights struggle of the 50's and 60's. i grew up believing all americans are entitled to equal rights, including the right to vote. sometimes, you had to fight really hard to get those rights. this seems really similar. thank you. >> good afternoon. i am the president of californians for electoral reform, a statewide non- partisan commission that works on ranked choice item. if you must, president chiu's proposal is least offensive. it provides a consistent experience to the voter, and is less likely to hurt turnout. items 33 m 35 have a september primary and a november runoff seven or eight weeks later. having sat at the rules committee hearing, that is not sufficient time to turn around pellets from overseas voters in the military voters. as i read into the record then, this is an article about how counties mis

he would have had the runoff in september and you would have been done the same day. you raised the issue of people not paying attention to the campaigns until after labor day. if you run for mayor you get people to change -- to pay attention. they will pay attention if you run the good campaign. this is the way that it works now. if you move the election day a couple of months, the voters will pay attention. >> supervisor -- >> i am happy that we have continued this, and we have a couple of weeks to review everything. in my mind, agreeing to this was a way of reaching compromise. going with it -- the majority of the city-wide offices, and -- you know, just considered for not the choice -- but the runoff elections. and so now, after hearing from more members of the public, i am willing to propose this amendment to the mayor, and i have a question about the september date, if this was a good day, as far as voter turnout is concerned. in my dialogue to the public, i think that november is a good day for the final election, and the concern with november and december only

runoffs. it drains us of money and energy and resources. we could be using to help fix the budget problems connected more funding to homeless, housing, aids projects, environmental issues. i would like to thank mr. fried for his awesome work on this. i would ask that the lafco give mr. fried's some time to continue to do his work. supervisor campos: thank you. any other member of the public who would like to speak on this? public comment is closed. colleagues, do we have any questions? i am wondering if you can respond to some of the points that were made in terms of adding more work to this report, whether or not he is think that is necessary. i'm wondering if you have any thoughts. >> i will start off with mr. hill's comments. i lived for the top 20 cities in the united states with a system that had was separated. i could go back and look at that. that is also tied to state offices. since we have our mayor and other citywide office is elected in a separate election, i did not incorporate tho

we also know that if the runoff involves the mayor's race, a december runoff will have an even higher turnout than november. supervisors on both sides acknowledge this and have done so publicly in this room. why are we still considering a mate only september proposal? -- a mirror only september proposal? why not switch it to december? september is the opposite. for example, why is it that the voter turnout numbers for september municipal elections are not being looked at or discussed? other cities use september. the numbers are very low, on the order of 20%. if the proponents disagree, why haven't been mentioned in the turnout numbers? if the september primary will be on the ballot, voters deserve to have the options. it would not be fair to put only the september proposal on the ballot because voters would be forced to vote for a low turnout primaries. it does not have to be that way. why not give voters a choice? but both on the ballot and let the voters decide if they would rather have a low turnout elections in september or a high turnout november-december combination? thank you.

i very much support runoff election-type voting.t is most instinctual, natural kind of election to have it. i know a lot of people bring up monday when they talk about this, but i also feel they are willing to spend money on a lot of things that i did not agree with. i think it is worse extra money that winds up being spent. i think it will increase voter participation. >> thank you very much. >> steven hill. first of all, i want to clarify the record. i hate to cite your numbers, but you leave me no choice. you continue to get out erroneous numbers. you said poll after poll shows voters are confused. the only credible poll that we have that was done by a credible organization is san francisco state university showed 87 percent of sanford says go voters understand crank troy's boating. the other ones have been paid for by the chamber of commerce, and that is unknown opponent to bring tourists boating, so i think the polls are not credible. you also put out a figure that sit in the last election there was one% over votes. the over bo

one would replace ranked choice of voting with runoff elections.ther would incorporate a runoff elections into ranked choice of voting for the office of mayor. another would replace the voting for mayor with runoff elections. supervisor farrell: we were going to have a number of technical amendments advised by our city attorney to supervisor olague's amendment as well as the president's amendment. we will have a committee meeting to consider those. if people want to talk now, they can do that, but there will be an opportunity when we will vote on it next week. supervisor campos: i know that we will have an opportunity next week to talk more about this, but i want to make a couple of points about what is before us. much has been said about whether or not ranked joyce voting works. there have been questions even within the progressive community as to whether or not ring to choice voting, in its current form, is the right approach. but i think even those within the progressive community who believe there could be some modifications to ranked joyce vot

item 40 would incorporate runoff elections and item 41 would replace ranked joyce with runoff elections. -- rank choice with runoff elections. president chiu: why don't we ask if there are any members of the public who wish to speak on this hearing related to the various options on the rank choice of voting and runoff elections. if you could line up on the right side of the chamber facing us. if we could hear from our first speaker please. >> and the director of san francisco open government. i wish you would just make up your minds. you could rank choice, you foisted on the citizens who didn't understand what the hell they were voting for in the first place you had a department of elections that couldn't explain to anybody exactly how it worked when your first choice wasn't selected and who you end up voting with and against. nobody understood and we're going to go back and change again. let's just keep changing it so you can keep the citizens off balance perennially forever. i think that is really the intent here. let's just do this in such a convoluted and confused way that citizens

>> again, there were a lot of studies that looked atsurface runoff from the fields. in any event, the description will say that -- the project description puts forth that rec and park will provide a drainage system upholding all the water at the site until testing is confirmed that to the runoff will not affect groundwater quality. in addition, the synthetic turf standards limit the amount of metakl concentration. we have those measures. commissioner mar: i just need to know how we will be sure it is well-managed so it does not enter the "for -- aquifer. >> serrie jones from the environmental planning division. the project that we are evaluating is defined similar to the facility that is in place at south sunset, which is over the west side of "for -- aquifer. rather than percolating into ground water, it would be collected and diverted into a system. over time, if testing indicates that it is safe and appropriate to do so, reckon court is -- rec and park is coordinating with the puc to come if desirable, return the water rather than redirected to the storm drain. co

i would say 20% of it is natural and the other 80% is runoff. shapiro: the purpose of the smurrf is to treat dry weather runoff, which is coming from storm drains. dry-weather runoff occurs when people waste water through washing their cars in the street, hosing down sidewalks and parking lots, their irrigation systems overspray. narrator: in a city of 12 million people, those seemingly small bits of wasted water accumulate to enormous amounts. shapiro: so all that ends up in our streets, ends up in catch basins, storm drains, into our storm drain system, and for some of the city, parts of the city, it ends up here at smurrf. 350,000 gallons come here on a daily basis, producing recycled water, and that can be reused for landscape irrigation and indoor toilet flushing. the pumps can only handle so much water, which is generally when it's not rain, the dry-weather runoff, so if you get a storm of a decent size, the pumps will shut down automatically and the water will just continue to flow out into the ocean and it carries a lot of bacteria and p

we actually have increased turnout and the december runoff verses the election because of the status that is citywide, and i think the attention it generates. i think voters are motivated to come out more than once to vote for this office. that is where i left myself open to dialogue. i certainly do not think that holds true for the city attorney public defender, sheriff, and district attorney races and would not support as having to elections for them. the other factor is cost. conducting multiple election cycles in the year. i think if we're not able to increase this, we should not run up more alexians the necessary to get in canada elected. this represents boaters desires in terms of food there would like to see an office. -- voter's desires in terms of who they would like to see in office. i do have questions on the september primary. i am curious to have the 65 percent signed never came forward, how that was formulated in terms of winning a primary out right verses what we currently have with the top two, or if we did an rcv. that is one question i did have, and i do not know if

item 40 would incorporate runoff elections and item 41 would replace ranked joyce with runoff elections. -- rank choice with runoff elections. president chiu: why don't we ask if there are any members of the public who wish to speak on this hearing related to the various options on the rank choice of voting and runoff elections. if you could line up on the right side of the chamber facing us. if we could hear from our first speaker please. >> and the director of san francisco open government. i wish you would

instant runoff voting. but here's what's wrong with that. if any of you -- i don't really know new york laws. but if you're familiar with the state that has runoff primaries, as my state did, you would actually find that in a great many of the cases that whoever finished second in the first round wins the runoff. because when you have an actual runoff, not just dropping down the list, you know, whoever gets your vote, you have an actual runoff between two people so that the voters can look at them, size them up, listen to them head to head, instead of divided up among a lot of other candidates, often it's the one who won the first round, loses the second round. so, you know, i think it has to be much more fundamental. i think it has to be opening it up to democracy. let every candidate who qualifies, whether by filing fee or petition signatures, whatever the state requires, be on the ballot. let the voters choose among all of them. >> uh-huh. [ applause ] >> dr. field? >> i wanted to ask you if you could comment on the relationship between t

i don't want to do a runoff or a coin toss. you can run. i wish you the best of luck in the 100 and the 200 in the relays. >> reporter: jennifer tarmo tells how she placed third at the olympic trials. but judge changed that decision to a photo finish tie with felix. the teammates would have a runoff. >> i think she got screwed here. >> reporter: her high school track coach says tarmo knows she won the race. >> i don't think she's quitting. what she's trying to do is she's going to have to practice without allyson felix. >> reporter: she works with several bay area athletes. >> they eat and sleep and dream their sport. >> reporter: she says xgiving away an olympic position could mean that tarmo is exhausted. olympic-level athletes can't take stress on to the track. walking away, may give tarmo the ability to perform. >> she's like, in my heart, i can't let that happen. so, she was in shock. i let her know that it will be all right. it's fine. >> reporter: she will be in the olympics in london. >>> one of the swimming superstars will not be c

both runners reportedly agreed to the runoff but tarmoh who felt wrong by the situation opted to giveured a spot to run the 200 meters. why can't we all get along. to baseball. two won't be heading to the all-star game. it was because of a brawl that occurred with the cardinals almost two years ago. it was told the cincinnati inquirer johnny and brandon were at the center of a skirmish between us and the cardinals. they called the cardinals not suitable for a family broadcast and joined with cardinal catcher molina which led to a massive brawl between two clubs. look at those head punches. major league baseball suspended him for his role in the fight. one cardinal player was hit in the face. baker and la russa received two game bans. la russa denied the brawl played any part in the decision and said he wouldn't penalize anybody for past actions. yankees facing the rays in saint pete and both have fielding issues. teixeira lost a ball to right field. jason overruns it and allows the ball to drop. let's go seventh inning. score tied at 3-3. johnson hits a routine ground ball to teixeira

so i think there was a lot of concern about fatigue if they did a runoff today.at original, you know, now infamous photo that sparked tamough's change. >> can she pursue action against the olympic committee? >> you know, that's an interesting question. and i'm not sure anybody really knows that right now. i think it's an interesting thing for sports players to muse about. if there was anything, i don't know if it was be the usoc or usa track and field the governing body of the sport. and as we reported earlier this week kind of had to rewrite the books on this because a dead heat in and of itself is an extraordinary circumstance, let alone a dead heat for a third-place finish. and the top three who make the standard go. everything about this statistically is unbelievable and has baffled people. so it follows that theme of we don't know yet. >> what is allyson felix saying about this? >> hergents put out a statement that, you know, until she was told by usatf that she was ready to run until told otherwise. the thing to remember about felix and tarmoh is they train

but right now she does not want to rub in this runoff. believes that she won the race, that was the unofficial score that she was the third-place finisher and should be on the olympic team. she does not want a runoff, she does not want a coin toss, they're in a tough position. >> it shocked me that they offered them a coin toss. can we go back to the photo? i want everybody to see it on the photo finish. this is the reason she believes she won, right? is it the leg? >> essentially it's the torso but that's a very subjective term. the person who is responsible for photo finishes is not a usa track and field referee. it's an outside company that they have been doing this for so many years and he has done thousands of races so he's using his best knowledge of where the torso would be. you can see by the bib there, that's on on allison felix is by the bib and tarmoh is kind of turned a little bit. so they use data points on a laptop. you mentioned the 3,000 frames per second on the camera, and they try to determine who crossed the finish line

. >>> and winner take all -- two american sprinters in a head-to-head runoff tonight with an olympic spot on the line. but will it happen? somebody may be dropping out. we're going to check in on that for you. good morning to you, welcome to "early start" on this monday morning. i'm zoraida sambolin. >> and i'm ashlee. >> it's the kind of heat that makes it hard to breathe and it is still threatening millions of americans all the way from the midwest to the northeast this morning. >> about 16 people have now died from this heat since thursday when triple-digit temperatures unleashed killer storms that have now left millions of people without power this morning. it's incredible, but look how many states are now dealing with miserable conditions in ohio, 425,000 people are now without power. that's as of 10:00 p.m. last night. it's the same story in virginia and maryland, where hundreds of thousands of people are just waiting for the power to come back on. just a whiff of ac in these extraordinary temperatures. the problem there doesn't seem to be much of a let-up in sight. 20 states a

jeneba tarmoh and allyson felix had a runoff. zachary kiesch has the story. >> reporter: with years of hard work and dedication at stake, last saturday night jeneba tarmoh, and allyson felix were in a -- a visibly dejected felix -- >> everyone goes through ups and downs, but when you're trying to make an olympic team, it's extra hard-breaking. >> reporter:up about the same place jeneba tarmoh about finished, the pot was stirred. the photo finish wasn't so clear at all. >> the outside camera was inconclusive due to some okay secured torsos. athletes arms were up obscure the torso. it's the torso that determines both time and place. >> reporter: but there's one big problem. this had never happened before, and the olympic committee didn't know what to do. they came up with a couple options. or even better yet, we can just flip a coin. >> we fully expected the tie we're broken either via a runoff or either of the two athletes bush did you i don't think anyone legitimately thought it had end in a coin toss. >> reporter: after a week o

from the rejected point of view, i think a runoff is the most fair way to determine it. you have three options, flipped a coin, one of the runners can .ecede >> stay with us for a trip to the forecast, right after this. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone likes a bit of order in their life. virtual wallet helps you get it. keep track of spending, move money with a slide, and use the calendar. all to see your money how you want. ♪ >> we used to say power to the people, but now there is pressure to return to power. bge is working to get the lights back on for thousands. will take a closer look. economic impact with fourth of july around the corner, health brought a storm is affecting the bottom line of small businesses. bottom line of small businesses. chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save. >> it is going back into the 90's and staying there. monday we may see highs only in the 80's. it looks like a huge of -- a few storms around on the fourth of july. thanks for joining us. [captioning made possi

. >> what happened in that olympic runoff race featuring a san jose runoff race featuring a san joseunner?,[ bell ringing ] ♪ in a world where ♪ there is so much to see ♪ there's still no other place ♪ that i would rather, rather ♪ rather, rather be ♪ [ male announcer ] dip into sabra hummus and discover a little taste of the world. enjoy sabra dips. adventure awaits. >> a search crews looking to solve a 75 year old mystery. pilot amelia earhart disappeared on this day in 1937 and she tried to become the first woman to fly around the world. baker will leave hawaii tomorrow for a small island south of the equator. that is where they think her airplane crashed into the ocean. >> if in fact there is a final chapter in her life, a chapter that involve being a castaway struggling to survive on an uninhabited islands, where she succeeded for a time, before eventually dying. that needs to be known. if that is what happened. >> search crews are hopeful that it will find the wreckage of that airplane in a month. >> from the cbs 5 weather center, good evening everyone, we warmed up to 85 degre

her research revealed that the runoff from artificial turf which contains round of tires harmed a tiny water creature that you can see here in the video that she shot. they die when exposed to of glue that -- as she what action for the 2011 young hero ward. sarah has gone on to her next project, to help the homeless by designing a solar charger for self loans so they have easier access to city services. visit us on facebook. >> the report would say that the water won't leach into the fields where the ocean or that it will be treated and save. this is some of the rubber tire with water and i was going to offer it to you guys, but i thought i would get in trouble for supervisor endangerment or something. it is supposed to be safe. so you should say this would be fine. i will ask the kids if they want to drink it, but i would get child endangerment problems. keep that in mind, this is dangerous stuff. >> next speaker. >> ladies and gentlemen and commissioners. good afternoon, good evening. i have been a resident of the city and county of san francisco for 44 years. i have also been a socc

a runoff was scheduled for tonight. but tarmo called it off, describing why and how to louis johnson. >> i told her i'm not in the right place to run this race. my decision is where it was before. i don't want to do a runoff or a coin toss and you can run this and i wish you the best of luck in the 100 and 200 in the relays. physically i don't think i would be there either. i was drained after the 200. >> disappointing but she will be an alternate. >> she is in already anyhow? >> she is in a relay. >> but she is going to london. >> she's going to london anyway. it was classy. >>> the baltimore orioles have three all-star going to kansas city and one is a maybe. that man is on the hound tonight. jason hammel gave up eight runs on wednesday against l.a. bottom two peer no score one out, dustin ackley there strikes him out and nabs are runner to end the inning. o's down 0-1. davis takes it all the way downtown and jacks that deep. i was practicing his name before the sports. the orioles lead 3-1 in the fifth inning. >>> th

they were supposed to have a runoff yesterday to determine who would win the last spot.ut tarmoh backed out conceding the race to felix. all is not lost for tar month, she will be an alternate. baseball now, yankees and rays tied it 3-3. eliot johnson squeak one back to teixeira. and he was catching touchdowns for the fighting irish last night he was mowing down the atlantic braves. bases loaded in the seventh. the cubbies won four in a row. they win this one 4-1. he had his 27th homer the year. biggest home run of the night, a grand slam to straightaway center. royals win. bit of history in pittsburgh. fourth inning gary jones hits a solo shot off the right field foul pole. neil walker hits a solo shot. deja vu all over again. back-to-back jacks off the upright. first time that's happened since 2000. pirates beast the astros 11-2. that's your "first look" at sports. i'm mario solis. >> for another look at the weather here's nbc meteorologist bill karins. leapt me guess it's hot out there? >> yes. the big question is what will it be like for the fireworks displace. you h

that proposed runoff for the final spot on the u.s. women's track team, well, it's no longer needed. just hours ago san jose native geneva tarmoh pulling it out after the time trials nip days ago. tarmoh gives up a shot at qualifying for the team but is eligible to run in the lon gone games as part of the 400-meter relay team. she was never happy about the runoff, originally declared the third-place finisher before officials called it a dead heat. >>> the world's fastest man says he's not worried after finishing second in the jamaican olympic trials. 2008 gold medalist u sane bolt. the victim of big-time shocker finishing second in the 200 meters. with that, it looks like johan blake, not bolt, is the man to be in london. but bolt says he'll show the entire world in the olympic games he is still the fastest man on the entire planet. >>> we are just 25 days away from the start of the summer games. keep it here on nbc bay area for exclusive coverage and for in-depth coverage of the olympic games, head to our website, nbcbayarea.com. clic