. >> rupert murdoch is interviewed next. it is about the future of journalism and the state of the media. this is one hour and 15 minutes. >> he has been described does the most powerful men in the world. everything is affected from economics to culture. rupert murdoch is in the middle of that. his corporation owns and runs in the movie company -- you have heard of "avatar" i am sure. the have fox news on cable with ratings higher than any other cable operation, "the wall street journal," and that is all just in the united states. there's a lot more overseas in england, europe, and asia. rupert murdoch is indeed a modern media mogul. we are honored to have them as our guest today. .com. >> thank you very much. >> i want to start -- welcome. >> thank you very much. >> described as the most powerful man in the world, how you take that description? >> i do not litigate to me. >> -- i do not let it get to me. >> there are three quotes. the first is from an australian clergymen in the late 19th century who believe that, "a free p

is it possible rupert murdoch does not know what the tea party movement is?hinks it's like a declared political party, like democrat or republican? >> i find that a little bit hard to believe. he showed obviously a good handle of current events, political affairs also at that press club, so someone who consumes that much news would -- one would think would have an understanding at the very least of what the tea party movement is. but by sort of acknowledging implicitly that he doesn't understand that his news channel has covered it with such boosterism, it does suggest a little bit of detachment and makes you wonder whether that's deliberate or not, whether he's too hands off with fox news. giving too much rein to roger ales. >> because he has chosen throughout his career to be so closely associated with all his news properties, brand them with his own political views but be the public and political face of those networks, is this possible it means there is a divide between murdoch and fox, or is it also possible that this is just plausible deniability, that

rupert murdoch is now in the middle all of that. his corporation, the news corporation, owns and runs a movie company, you have heard of "avatar" i'm sure, fox entertainment, sports, fox news on cable with ratings high year than any other cable operation, "the wall street journal," the new york post, harpercollins book publisher. and that's all just in the united states. a lot more overseas in england, europe and asia. rupert murdoch is indeed a modern media mogul, and we are delighted, indeed honored, to have him as the guest today. mr. murdoch, welcome. >> thank you for a much. >> i would like to start first with that quote, one of the most powerful men in the world, and that was 15 years ago, so we can imagine what you are today. [laughter] how do you take to that kind of description? >> i don't like to get to me. i don't believe it. >> you don't believe it? [laughter] a lot of people do. let me start with three quotes from people you know or knew of and then talk about each one of them. the first is from an australian clergymen,

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hats off to them for catching -- >> hats off to rupert murdoch who makes this company green. we have posters telling us to be green. come on this is not just a liberal left wing conspiracy. >> it has become -- >> way too much agreement. it is time for another break. if you see evidence of media bias, send the example to us at news watch at foxnews.com. >> next, anniversary of the oklahoma city bombing prompts some in the press to make comparisons that seem anything but fair and balanced. >> 15 years ago an act of terror rocked our nation. now some in the media trying to link that crime to a popular political view? iran's nuclear threat grows. memo from defense secretary reveals a weak plan on how to deal with that threat. is the media paying attention? answers next on news watch. may i help you? hi, i need to start saving on car insurance. money a bit tight? yeah, i've had to cut back, sell some stuff. like his watch. oh. we can help you save. because we instantly compare your progressive direct rate with rates from other top companies. watch this. [ beeping ] nice savings. t

i think the genius of rupert murdoch and roger ailes is to discover a niche in american broadcasting, half the american people. what you had is the monopoly, all the networks and cable stations were all liberal, and people got sick of that, and they had something different. that is why they have a huge audience. cnn's issue is not that it is straight, it is that it is the mushy, "new york times" clopper west side, maybe -- upper west side, lazy liberalism delivered in a dull way. at least msnbc does it with flair. the fact that we have a center- right country indicates that at least, if you look at the polls, 40% of americans are -- no, i am answering a question -- 40% of americans are conservative, 20% are liberal, and about 36% are moderate. when you have for years broadcast news appealing only to american liberals, and all of a sudden an alternative is established, it gets a huge audience. >> there is a certain amount of horse manure. look, i did a lot of credit to roger ailes, who i also think is a genius. but whenever you have the en -- have the ins on one side, the outs always f

when rupert murdoch bought -- host: you are bought -- now part of the dow jones/wall street journal group. california, very, independent. caller: the question i have is, are they doing any studies on the length and which people have been unemployed? it seems to me my perception is this, the figures are two dimensional and lack a third element. we have people, never in their lifetime, are being unemployment for a longer length of time and i am just wondering, do any of the numbers take into play the corrosive effects it can have on society in which you have huge amounts of really skilled, talented people? guest: that is right, we have been talking all morning about the statistics, a record number of people unemployed for more than six months. a real good story in "the wall street journal" on this topic this morning. it is getting attention from policy makers. host: for logger there'll -- ford lauderdale, florida. frank, unemployed. caller: one of the things i have been looking at right now. i'm unemployed about eight years. i was 56 when i lost my job with a large electronics firm that los

and i got to figure -- my theory, you know, all the years i have been there i never met rupert murdoch theory is the guy is a businessman first and a republican second. and if something with a distinctly liberal slant is doing good for the company he is not going to step in and -- >> larry: money counts? >> yeah, yeah. >> larry: an islamic group revolution muslim is warning that "south park" creators they could be killed because of the depiction of the prophet mohammed. they have taken on just about every faith and mocked osama bin laden in a historic piece. watch. >> this is a message to all american infidels. prepare to die in a sea of holy fire. you will be punished for your decadent ways on the first day of radaman. wait. wait a minute. what did i say? radaman. blah blah blah. ram dan. what is that? maybe dennis rodman will punish you with his crazy hair. no. what is that? right, right. yeah, no. okay. okay. all right. let's go again. >> larry: do you get any flack on that? >> we didn't get any flack. i think probably the difference there is that bin laden is not a deity. >> larry:

rupert murdoch won't decide this election, you will., the younger and the publisher of all of british papers stormed into the office of the independent, demanded to see the editor in chief and yelled at him over the ad for 20 minutes. they strode in like a scene out of dodge city, said one witness. what are you f-ing playing at? he reportedly began. according to the newspaper, he accused the editor of breaking the unwritten code that proprietors do not attack each other. oh, jimmy, you're new here. rules? there are no rules. our runner up, congressman brian doeb bray of california with one of the dumbest things ever said in the increasingly desperate effort to diz guys arizona's official state racism as anything else. chris matthews asked him what, when they go looking for possible immigrants, they will look for besides the color of their skin. bilbray's answer? their shoes. >> they will look at the kind of dress they wear. there's different type of attire, there's different type of -- right down to the shoes. right down to the clothes.

we have seen this happen with rupert murdoch who in his publishing company refused to allow a book to be published with remarks critical of china. why? i hope i am not saying anything illegal, but the explanation given at the time was that murdoch wanted to extend his television empire into china and simply was not willing to offend the chinese authorities. the sensor the book. it was published by another publisher. okay. but if you have got a monopoly position and you have the right of that is dangerous. some monopolies could be good in the sense of providing its services. monopolies tend to charge monopoly prices and to abuse their power. we need a public authority that will prevent those abuses. >> one or two more. >> two questions correctly. one is i don't really know what conditions were like. i was interested to hear that they had access to paper and pens and were able to right despite the fact they were in prison. my second question is in terms of harvard funding if there will continue to be an emphasis on collecting rare books, books that would not be available elsewhere, part

. >> rupert murdoch's new york post editorial board took this line one step further, not just criticizingresident clinton for cautioning against inciting language, but blaming the clinton administration for the oklahoma city bombing. saying, quote, mcveigh never cited talk show hosts as inspiration. rather he pointed a finger at clinton's own administration. oklahoma city was a retaliatory strike, a counterattack from the cumulative raids and subsequent damage and violence federal agents participated in the preceding years including but not limited to waco. the "new york post" explaining how, if you think about it, the oklahoma city bombing was the federal government's fault. they weren't the only voice on the right to go there and lash out at president clinton. >> let me ask president clinton what words caused timothy mcveigh to act? name one. i want to know what words and who spoke them? all i've ever heard is timothy mcveigh was outraged over the government invasion led by janet reno of the branch davidian compound in waco, texas, and the murrah building was blown up later. he was not

. >> rupert murdoch is operating against the law? >> fox news is i believe.who are paid, fox contributors raising money for candidates you can't do that. >> let's look at the numbers. newt gingrich out there on just about every night on fox. he's raised $14 million. you've got sarah palin's sarah pac, $2.5 million. huckabee has his own show, raised $1 million. santor santorum's america foundation pac, $1.2 million. isn't the mission of fox news and these people to give a strong townatifoundation to the republican party? do you see it digitally? >> if we had to look and say does fox news lean toward the right? of course it does. does msnbc lean toward the left? of course it does. look at how many shows msnbc has on every night that does nothing but hammer the republican party, the tea party and everybody else you mentioned there. they also employ a significant amount of people who work for democrats who now are -- >> i don't disagree with you on that. i can't speak for the other hosts. i'm a progressive. i'm a lefty. there are some republicans i like. you're o

owner rupert murdoch means for it to challenge "the new york times" for readership and city reportingsay more national media devoted to covering local issues the better. let's get the trend going in cities other than new york and let's hope, this is big-time, the editorial pages of "the wall street journal" stay exactly where they are, apart from the news. i'm getting to like this saturday "journal" not because of peggy noonan. let's keep that part of the paper clear of the poor attitudes that run on editorial pages. >>> next, decider on the record. we got our first look at president bush's memoirs. a book his publisher says centers around 14 key decisions bush made over his lifetime. his publisher says that since leaving office, the former president has spent "almost every day" writing the book. writing? putting words down? writing paragraphs? organizing chapters? okay. i know he's the decider but let's not overdo this claim. let's just say he approved the book. comes out this november 9th. we invite the president to come on "hardball" and flog the hell out of it. >>> finally, what n

. >> rose: rupert murdoch. >> doing great. >> rose: he deserves enormous credit for standing up and sayingcannot and will not provide free content at the "wall street journal." >> he was the first in america, we were the first in europe. we are totefully the same camp on that front. we have slightly different ways to get to that point, but in principle with regard to strategy, we absolutely are on the same page. >> rose: the idea of free content essentially will no longer be the dominant idea in terms of communicating magazines and newspapers. >> let me slightly rephrase it. i would say the idea that free democratic information... >> rose: online. >> is only achieveable in the digital world if everything is for free is for me web communism is a totally absurd idea because that would mean a supermarket is only a democratic supermarket if you can get your milk and your bread for free. so i think parts of the content will be free because they are commodities, parts of the exclusive content will be paid for and advertising financed and parts of it will be subscription models only. and that wil

. >>> and rupert murdoch humiliated by his own employees. >> i didn't think we should be supporting thebefore i condemn anyone. >>> sarah palin and sean hannity covering the speech. today --

rupert murdoch supported the neocons in america and add tony blair, a neocon lackey in britain. now they are pushing us to attack iran. there was a documentary that talked about the protest israel lobby influence in england. -- pro-israel lobby influence in england. host: we will leave it there. our guest address to the first time. next call. caller: i have a question about the terminology in glen or britain or scotland -- terminology in england or britain or scotland -- i was wondering what will english nationalism really kick in, if the english people will vote on english matters only. guest: we may have tried to keep adam on the line lager for that as much as i try to have as much a british politics ruboff on me and policy, i am not the authority on that. the proper term for england, scotland, wales, and northern ireland is the united kingdom. that is the word i stick with. host: "the washington post" writes about the debate, saying that opened what it appears to shape the outcome of the vote more than a -- anyone here that "it appears to shape the outcome of the vote more th

. >> rose: rupert murdoch is winning the admiration of some people in its business that might have viewed him a different way because he's had the spirit to move forward and say content's important and you are going to have to pay for it on-line. >> yeah. >> well, good luck to him. seriously. >> rose: you think it is a fool's errand. >> well, two different questions. one is nobody has yet done it in terms of general-- doesn't mean it can't be done. but i think it's a difficult proposition but seriously, as you can make it work, then that is interesting. i think journalistically we just need to stop and think because i think journalistically, i'm not a pessimist. i think what the weather has done is miraculous in terms of information. and that newspapers should want to be open and collaborative in what they do. because that's the way the internetworks. and so i think at he a very profound statement journalistically to want to put a universal barrier between you and the way the rest of the world is going to work. so it's a kind of sort of journalistic question which i think is fighting to b

rupert murdoch supported the neocons in america and add tony blair, a neocon lackey in britain. now they are pushing us to attack iran. there was a documentary that talked about the protest israel lobby influence in england. -- pro-israel lobby influence in england. host: we will leave it there. our guest address to the first time. next call. caller: i have a question about the terminology in glen or britain or scotland -- terminology in england or britain or scotland -- i was wondering what will english nationalism really kick in, if the english people will vote on english matters only. guest: we may have tried to keep adam on the line lager for that as much as i try to have as much a british politics ruboff on me and policy, i am not the authority on that. the proper term for england, scotland, wales, and northern ireland is the united kingdom. that is the word i stick with. host: "the washington post" writes about the debate, saying that opened what it appears to shape the outcome of the vote more than a -- anyone here that "it appears to shape the outcome of the vote more th

that is the rupert murdoch paper. he is the main one pushing hatred and vitriol. when people say both parties do the same thing. all you have to do is go to senate.gov, you will find of the vote on repealing glass- steagall, republicans owned the house of the senate and clinton was president and you had 45 democrats in the senate and 44 of them voted no, the one that voted yes was hollings, a conservative from south carolina. all republicans voted to repeal the last-steagall. -- glass-steagall. host: the front page from "the philadelphia inquirer." they write that republicans did in 9 did the democrats say time and the public are on their side. and if you go and "the washington post" today, here is their lead. votes lacking to start debate. one democrat defected -- talk about ben nelson. negotiations continue. one of the takes from "the washington post" is one of their own polls and they write that about two-thirds of americans support stricter regulations on the way banks and other financial institutions conduct their businesses. this is from a post/abc poll. cit