york times was going to publish the story that yes they were and if you don't know that i would rush holt who's very very upset about that because that's a felony that's a felony he's the guy that's not only running the national security agency he's going to do cyber security offensive capability so what i'm saying here is integrity counts if you get this kind of people running our cyber security well these toys are going to be used in a way that americans probably don't wish them to be used now the first time that we saw something really dramatic out on the in the cyber world was really was the stuxnet and iran in that we weren't supposed to find out about it now do you want to see it has to in order for a president to go to war they have to get the approval of congress normally but when it comes to cyber aggressions they don't need better probles so much the way that they don't need approval with drone strikes is this a way for the president to get around or for not just president obama but for future presidents they're going to around the idea of war without actually going to congress.

rush holt, congress' only physicist, perhaps, probably, at least on the iq basis, the smartest guy ins. >> well, thanks, chuck. >> some people might say that's a low bar these day, but, anyway, rush holt, thank you very much. >>> developing now, this picture just into msnbc. this is him, the new secretary of defense, chuck hagel, being sworn in just moments ago. >>> the gaggle will be here next. but first, the white house soup of the day. hey, this one sounds really good. black-eyed pea soup with smoked turkey. that's a good one. i would like a little bit of that. we'll be right back. [ washer and dryer sounds ] for the things you can't wash, freshen them with febreze. ♪ because febreze doesn't just cover up odors... it penetrates deep into fabrics to eliminate odors and leaves a light, fresh scent. just another way febreze helps you breathe happy. i have to know the weather patterns. i upgraded to the new sprint direct connect. so i can get three times the coverage. [ manager 2 ] it's like working in a giant sandbox. with all these huge toys. and with the fastest push-to-talk... i ca

also joining us democratic congressman rush holt who just so happens to be a rocket scientist. literally, a physicist and rocket scientist and also part of your government. jim, i want to start with you. we are getting conflicting numbers of the injured and they keep going up. what are you hearing now? >> yeah, they keep going up. the russian news agency saying more than 1,000 people injured in some way after this. to set the scene, just after breakfast time, people may have been taking their kids to school and you get that bright flash in the sky. and the shock wave. the explosion seems to have caused the explosion. the shock wave goes off shattering glass. breaking windows and some buildings collapse as well. the government says, schools, hospitals, offices all affected. it came from nowhere. people may have looked at the streak in the sky. might have looked what you see trailing from an airplane. airplane vapor. then the explosion. one woman thought it was a plane crash because of the noise and because of what they saw in the sky. so you have more and more people injured. sl

keith alexander who lied to his congressional supervisors in the house intelligence committee when rush holt asked him are you spying on americans poor keith alexander no one told him that the new york times was going to publish the story that yes they were is no no no no question that i would never shop was very very upset about that because that's a felony that's a felony he's the guy that's not only running the national security agency he's running the new cybersecurity profits of capability so what i'm saying here is integrity counts and if you get this kind of people running our cyber security well these toys are going to be used in a way that americans probably don't wish them to be used now the first time that we saw something really dramatic happen and that cyber world was really way. that's stuxnet and iran and we were supposed to find out about that but we did now do you want if you have to in order for a president to go to war they have to get the approval of congress normally but when it comes to cyber aggressions they don't need that approval similar to the way that they don't n

within our plans to do so, if he has the power to do so now is the time to do it. >> congressman rush holtnd sarah cadogan, thanks so much for being with us this morning. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> sewage running down the walls, carpets soaked in urine. it's been four days since the cruise liner "triumph" lost power and conditions are beyond disgusting. >> he said that the conditions have gotten so bad that they're asking them to use the restroom in bags and they were eating onion sand wichwiches and that monday. >> a live report from mobile, alabama, where the disabled cruise liner is expected to finally arrive tomorrow. [ engin] [ male announcer ] we created the luxury crossover and kept turning the page, writing the next chapter for the rx and lexus. this is the pursuit of perfection. three words dad, e-trade financial consultants. they'll hook you up with a solid plan. wa-- wa-- wait a minute; bobby? bobby! what are you doing man? i'm speed dating! [ male announcer ] get investing advice for your family at e-trade. executor of efficiency. you can spot an amateur

>> reporter: a democratic congressman from new jersey, rush holt, who is also a physicist, he testifiedterday scientists like him need conferences. >> first-hand how important scientific conferences and meetings are. the informal conferences and formal presentations that go into a conference lead to real collaboration. these are not fancy junkets. >> reporter: congressman holt thinks the federal government should spend more money on conferences. martha: maybe they do them in the conference room down the hall in with a the brown-bag bag as darrell issa report. thanks, peter. unbelievable. we didn't get to go to a conference last year. what are we doing wrong? bill: we did not. we're stuck in our pod. he is being held in one much iran's most notorious prisons even today. the american pastor is speaking about torture. his wife and the american lawyer trying to get him home free will join us live. martha: what a story that is. plus a hero to the rescue. man's best friend, look, is trapped. get that little guy out. so cute. we'll be right back. more than two years ago, the people of bp made