i don't see them rushin around. >> that's right. i would not hld my breath. there is the perception. and i don't know why that is because presidents go through secretaries and it doesn't seem to affect them. you look at ronald reagan and a lot of the cabinet secretaries, bill clinton, the same thing. there's a perception that if you start firing people it will cause a feeding frenzy or something like that. and i think the will see secretary sebelius and there indefinitely. it's hard to imagine a bigger failure and this is a huge failure. as with all of president obama's greatest failure, exactly when he gets exactly what he wants when he wants it. so it's hard to see any reason not to fire kathleen sebelius. but i uld not hold my breath he won the argument, it would be like firing someone who is at the launch of a new product and has a bumpy start like the ipod did for apple. and it took a couple of years for that device to take hold and to prove steve jobs right. they are saying that this is the same thing when in fact it could be just fine. >> i don't know