development interests as well as to oppose interference by external forces let's bring in that russ feingold is in asia a political risk on the list and joins us by skype from taipei. china has the most sophisticated online censorship system in the world the great fire will they call it google twitter a huge long ago how was this one has slipped through the net until now but i think the key thing is what you said that it slipped through the net on our clubhouse became popular very rapidly to the point where i had chinese friends sending me text messages asking me for help to get on to clubhouse within the past few weeks it was very sudden phenomenon but just as quickly. internet regulators obviously they've caught up with it and now are made efforts to block it look chinese internet users routinely jump over the firewall to access internet websites and social media around the world it's not unusual that they would have tried something new that became popular they heard about it a gauge them political conversation and at the same time it's not unusual that eventually the chinese regulators pu

we're joined by russ feingold, who has participated in exactly such senate trial. "washington post" reporter libby casey. senator feingold, your views of what the senate and by proxy america saw today in this trial. >> well, it's obviously a very sad and disturbing day, but, you know, you mentioned history in the previous segment. something very historical did get done today. this notion that somehow there couldn't be an impeachment trial after the president leaves office. it's over. people had to scramble, for examples in lesser cases, but now you have a trial commencing on the president of the united states who has left office. and that's very important to clarify. the second thing is the way i look at this is a little bit about history. and that is that 25, 50, 100 years from now when a kid gets asked who is the only president that got impeached twice, the answer is going to be donald trump. just like when i was a kid, who is the only president who was ever impeached, andrew johnson. and that gets a child to wonder, well, what was that all somebody what did they

sovereignty security and development interests as well as to oppose interference by external forces russ feingold's and asia political risk analyst who says it's no surprise chinese you news uses are again a step ahead of the internet regulates clubhouse became popular very rapidly to the point where i had chinese friends sending me text messages asking me for help to get on to clubhouse within the past few weeks it was very sudden phenomenon but just as quickly the chinese internet regulators obviously they've caught up with it and now made efforts to block it look chinese internet users routinely jump over the firewall to access internet websites and social media around the world it's not unusual that they would have tried something new that became popular there heard about it the technology and the capabilities and frankly the intelligence of internet users always going to be several steps ahead of regulators whether in the west or in china. when it gets onto the agenda of the chinese authorities and it always comes after it was popular with netizens and this is just another example of that but

sovereignty security and development interests as well as to oppose interference by external forces russ feingold is an asia political risk analysts he says it's no surprise chinese users are again once again a step ahead of internet regulations. clubhouse became popular very rapidly to the point where i had chinese friends sending me text messages asking me for help to get on to clubhouse within the past few weeks it was very sudden but naaman on but just as quickly the chinese internet regulators obviously they've caught up with it and now made efforts to block it look chinese internet users routinely jump over the firewall to access internet websites and social media around the world it's not unusual all that they would have tried something new that became popular they heard about it the technology and the capabilities and frankly the intelligence of internet users is always going to be several steps ahead of regulators whether in the west or in china. when it gets onto the agenda of the chinese authorities and it always comes after it was popular with net is in this is just another example of