>> her first husband was russell brantt. >> exactly. >> i have three friends who made this choice, onewo in vitro. they don't have millions in the bank but they have means in order to take care of themselves and a child financially and they have one in particular has family that lives nearby and they're making it work. i love the father figure idea, but maybe there's not enough research to show that women like katy perry can make it work. >> if you continuously tell a certain demographic that you don't need them, jennifer anist aniston, we don't need you, eventually men believe it and say, okay, since you don't need me, i'll sit on my couch and play video games, go at it alone. maybe that contributes to the lack of good men that katy perry can find. >> maybe that's a theory pip think this is all the aftermath of russell brantt. he's a slow lawrence with an accent. it will take ten years for her to like men again. kimberly said it provides a safety net for risky behavior that everybody else doesn't have. this is new to women but not so new to men. in the '70s, '80s, '90s, a rock star co