and that explains a lot like the rise of russell pearce, but also we also know that russell pearce recall that happened at the primary level. the primary elections, grassroots activist, in russell pearce's backyard. and recruitment by those latino activists of a more moderate republican, and jerry lewis, to knock off russell pearce. and it also, unicom it was an interesting race because it also shows about the divide within the mormon community. russell pearce, a mormon. jerry lewis, a moment. but a mormon who was adopting, in salt lake city as a much moderate position on immigration and as, say, russell pearce. the mormon church was instrument in passing what was called, then called the utah compact. basically a degree by the mormon church and certain organizations in utah think we're going to treat all individuals with dignity and respect. and not demonize them essentially. and that influence has been coming down to arizona specifically within the mormon community, because the mormon church is very concerned about its outreach to latino voters. one of the biggest growth rates for the mo

of a more moderate republican injury was to knock off russell pearce. those are interesting races, because it shows about the divide in the mormon community. jerry lewis, a mormon. a mormon who was adopting -- salt lake city has a much more moderate position on immigration ban does russell pearce. the mormon church was instrumental in passing what was called the utah compact. basically a decree by the mormon church in certain organizations aimed we will treat all individuals with dignity and respect and not demonize them essentially. that influence has been coming down to arizona specifically within the mormon community, because the mormon church is very concerned about that are reached to latino voters. . . the role of the mormon church in the church is something that i expect we might see happening more and more. >> i guess you go to the audience. >> excellent. i do have a couple more that i was like to get to. this gets into the national discussion as well. the big debate is are latino voters and conservative powerhouse or if you look beyond the demo

that tells republicans in arizona that, rather than pursuing a strategy that perhaps arpaio and russell pearce chose to do in the pass anyway want to rethink their strategy in arizona. >> which leads abuse the issue of the -- over the last generation has steadily moved from a democratic voting bloc to the republican stronghold. we he seen the emergence of something similar, latino voters, in colorado, nevada, and new mexico. how did arizona fit into that? arizona it not yet there talk about why arizona is not at the level of those, i would put nevada and colorado as swing states and new mexico might be more solidly democratic at this point. where is arizona along that trajectory and is it -- will we eventually see the emergence of the solid latino swing bloc, a solid 'latino democratic bloc or main arizona on one side and others on the other. >> i'm always hesitant to look into a crystal ball and make predicts about politics. there's so many what-ifs. assuming nothing changes in arkansas arizona -- in arizona, arizona will become a swing state or blue state like new mexico. colorado and never