they call michael because michael works for russell simmons and because he works for russell simmonse's got to know about black people. hello? and i have nothing against mike. i like mike would have some point we got to get out of this tokenism on both sides when it comes to conversations about race. he is a push to see their more legitimate sophisticated conversations that aren't the same old back up or talking points. need to challenge the traditional cetaceans that actually position themselves as the authorities on black thought that in many cases the diversity of black thought were latino father asian thought or people of color to his more sophisticated than we give credit for and last but not least support whether their blogs or papers or whether their networks are individuals that are pushing to have these conversations supporting them so we can begin to see the conversations i don't think we often have at some of the major outlets. >> interesting that jeff brought up that point that i remember when i was filling in for campbell brown at "cnn" in the supreme court made a decisi

. >> i also like russell simmons. >> the other day i saw as i came across it. >> i didn't actually seerices. charles: the big argument is that greece has a collection, they don't want austerity anymore, we have our own form of austerity that is nowhere where it should be, but it is a start and i hope we don't oversight. i don't think that we will, although we worry about this and the establishment gop. >> it's kind of like education for the democrats, they are afraid to vote. are they going to sit there and had budgets of their friends and cronies that donated to them. charles: okay, guys, hope you had a chance to check out the fox business news show. they premiered this week. we also have jamie colby with strange inheritance. and then we have our grow kennedy and her self-titled show. you don't want to change the channel. and i have a question for you. what does superman and spiderman have in common with ikea and mcdonald's? we will tell you about it next if you stick around they challenge us. they take us to worlds full of heroes and titans. for respawn, building the best teractive e

russell simmons told me right here on the factor that he believes selling heroin meth and crack and other drugs is not a violent crime. mr. simmons thinks incarcerating people for dealing drugs is oppression. is selling heroin and crack on the street a violent crime? >> i am saying whites and blacks -- >> that is an easy question. can you answer that? >> people who are incarcerated. >> am i invisible? are you not hearing me? >> i don't think selling drugs is a violent crime. >> you and i have a disagreement. i think selling hard drugs is a violent crime. now back to mayor de blasio. before he was laelkted mayor the new york city police department drove down murders. that is a tremendous success. but de blasio's view point elsewhere. he sees the protesting cops as the problem. >> those individuals who took certain actions the last week or last two weeks really. they were disrespectful to the families involved. that is the bottom line. they were disrespectful to the families that lost their loved ones. and i can't understand why anyone would do such a thing in a context like that. >> i disa

russell simmons and bette midler this comes 13 years after the last album and for the two surviving membersis was a chance to try something different. joining me of course is chilli, good to see you. good morning. >> hi good morning. >> congratulations, one of my corny yy floor directors says we have chilli on a cold day. don't give him that charity laugh. he better go on and donate to this album. >> yes, pledge please. >> with your jokes. congratulations. tell me back story, why did it get to the point where you felt and t-boz felt it was time to go on this social media and raise this money? >> first of all, our manager told us about kick starter a while ago and we were always then wanting to come back with a new album but didn't -- the timing had to be right. after our movie, our biopic came out last year we were kind of overflooded with requests new tlc music from our fans. we've always involved them throughout everything we've done, like from fan mail our album, we put the names, fan's names inside the cd jackets, the album cover for tlc 20. calling it tlc 20 came from fans as well. we