russell bankk. thhs is overheard. >> smith: russell anks, welcome. >> banks: thank you, evan. >> smith: very nice to have you here and congratulationss3 on the book. >> banks: thank you. >> smith: although this is old hat for you at this point to ttke around a new book. you are a.you've got a lot of experience of, of -- of, promoting. >> banks: yeah. >> smith: .and talking about it and all that and i wonder if you get tired of it. >> banks::no it doesn't happen but once every three or four years anyhow so it -- it doesn't get repetitious or annthiig for me. and of course with each book there's a whole differrnt way of talking about it, of thinking about it and -- and wwen a book is, you know, is published it's the first time that i as a writer have to kind of transfer myself out of my identity as the writer and my relation to the book. >> smith: right. >> banks: .entirely as, as someone inside it um and, and begin to see it for the first time as a reader because i don't really consider the readers, the audience, while i'm writing the book, i'm really writing it for myself. i mean, an audience of one