>> russell wetanson. okay. >> here's the other thing, jane.ven if we think that -- even if you put aside and take them at fai face value, they're saying they were trying to put together a roswell like event. even doing that was irresponsible in a post-9/11 world. you're just going to launch something up into the sky and not tell people what it is? that would -- >> is the question -- >> woe need to make an example of this family. >> one at a time. >> the question is -- >> my last question to russell wetanson, this guy paves tile. he can't pay any of these fines back if he's fined half a million dollars or whatever. he lays tile for a living. is he going to get a reality show after all this is done? yes or no, russell? >> my answer is no. because once you involve these kids and you're accused of contributing to the delinquency of minors, that's where viewers, production companies and even networks i think will draw the line in the sand. >> have you watched a reality show lately? these reality shows all seem to be contributing to the delinquency

joining me to talk about it welcome back russell wetanson. we also welcome back lisa bloom, legal analyst for our sister network cnn and attorney, as well. lisa, starting with you, what are you seeing motive-wise from jon gosselin. >> there is a money dispute between him and tlc. tlc is not paying him the amount of money he thinks he is entitled to. he is taking a bold stand. i agree with you the show should be off the air. i don't agree with reality shows that exploit children having cameras in their home 24/7. he's now issued a statement thinking it's damaging for the kids and taking that position. hey, welcome to our camp, jon. we've been wanting you on this side a long time. belatedly but at least on our side now. >> let's hit on that real quick before we get your take on his motives. this is the first time we herred this and it just happens to come the day his name is lopped off the show, right? >> timing is everything, mike. >> yeah. >> this is definitely certainly suspect times because, right, they name the show "kate plus eight" but t