and is this near ro, an indication that there is a reset in nato russia relation to the point where russia will still top the priority as the biggest geopolitical threat or challenge for nato? well, well, it depends because nato consists of many states and i agree with my colleague then brussels referred earlier that he said that these countries have different interests. so, and the baltic states, poland, they will remain very anti russian. and they will want to make sure that the nato keeps this mission. and meanwhile, the united states would like to focus more on china. and so, so it, it really, it depends. but i also think that there might be some shift in thinking because yes, it said that you that's are yeah, that you, well sorry, the europeans are not becoming more aware that russia and china are kind of in the same basket. other corporate in closer and closer, not just military by the way, but you know, technology is trade core, those financial mechanisms. so i think, but at the same time, i think there's also many recognizing specially france and germany, that it's made those own a

a to detach themselves from russia. we've ahead of the united states when france, italy, germany, them much. they like to have it better or cooperation reef, or russia, but not at the detriment to u. s. or, oh, e u relations. why? because or for example, of france as he's no own or m i t m bomb other own nuclear weapons, but germany does not have nuclear weapons where it behaves, but it cannot produce them each se, the share originally the u. s. and they depend on the american gra, umbrella, a. so they, they added a double truck position. they are a steel stick to nate, off of our security, and or to keep leadership. we've sat on undisturbed european countries war a suspicious of russia. at the same time, germany as an economic power. no perfectly that if you you were on germany wants to be strong economic, you know, the need russian on a cas a. so there is a defacto audience between germany and russia dumps of energy. so there's a very complicated world where you can have different audience. he's on a jo, strategic, or

let me remind you that russia was against nato expansion in 1999, and this is actually how nato-russiancil came about. when mr. yeltsin visited paris in 1997 & the nato-russia relations funding act, basically this idea of the nato-russia council was a compensation for russia. the idea was that nato takes poland, the czech republic and hungary, former members of the soviet bloc, but in return , russia gets enhanced opportunities for dialogue. unfortunately, it proved to be not an equivalent exchange. i would correct a little bit my colleague, glenn. unfortunately it was not only the west that suspended the work of native-russia council. in 11999, when the western countries attacked yugoslavia, russia suspended all the work with nato for a few months. unfortunately it is a very bad situation when nato-russian relations are the first to suffer whenever there is tension. instead of being the last thing to be removed diplomatically, it is usually the first. hashem: teresa, whenever there is a tension between nato and russia you just need to look a little bit further west to the united state

maybe this is part of the great ah, russia 9 says and to suspend their work. gov. it's permanent mission to nato in brussels from november. first. the measure is a response to nato's decision earlier this month to expel 8 russian definitely. also coming up on the program this our ready for action. russia fills one section of the nord stream to pipeline with natural gas on awaits that final green light from regulators to start supplying europe and says that you, commissioner warns energy poverty on the continent is set to rise, tortured on jail for 17 years without trial. we explored the case of a pakistani national, who still in guantanamo despite being cleared for release after it's emerged he being mistaken for a terrorist under former researcher at google accuses that tech giant of using racist algorithms. tim, that gab bruce spoke to ortiz going underground. there's lots of it and i think all right, a lot of add a p i that automatic automated page on that is tools. ah, just after mindy and brazilian 10 pm in bangkok on 6 in the evening, here in moscow this mond

i'm, that's are the kind of actions that are taking place. nato would argue from russia, russia would argue from nato mean that it's pretty pointless, continued with what appears to be a sham relationship. let's not forget though, the context of this as opposed to, for example, the, a, you old, for example, a countries on an individual basis nitrogen organization whose very existence depends upon the notion of russia, modern days, russia not rochelle or soviet union for many years ago. but mountain de russia as being an existent shore threat to the member countries of nato, with st. very recently that nato's sake seeking to expand it so old bit to actually now be cancer in china, which of course the you don't need any of these. a globes in your office to know that that's a very long way from the north atlantic, which of course was the original thesis will reason rational behind i to itself. and so you've got a situation where it's almost inevitable. i thing an organization such as knights. i am in terms of its becoming not just a defense patch, but also a political force in its own ri

if they were not to be a confrontation, any more between nato and russia, russia will be in 90. ye gods, china, or nay, to have no job, any mo, and they will be, or a better cooperation, or between germany and do russia for us. right. me, jack, the franco, german russian axis. and of course, that's not in the interest of united states. right? because are they want to maintain, ne, to as a way to, to, to control europe on to devalue you rule a. let's go back to charles here. i mean, i, i find it really whimsical to think that, you know, china is going to play a major role way in cain containing china. i think that's very rhetorical. i don't think the european polities want to spend enormous amounts of money. do you know the contain russia? oh, i mean, no one's proven. it's actually a threat. but china, i mean, i think it's almost to the point of laughable. ok. the u. s. wants that the, the nato to be about as part of its flank, but it doesn't really expect nato, the do. very much. your thoughts, charles, i think sunny 1st us china is a major threat. not necessarily a military thr

to russia. but dos dependencies bring us independence on the other side from united states of america. so you create independence by having alternatives. and europe usually had a turn of my guess from russia, by liquid guess on the u. s. by all it could it had his own own oil. i co, a power plant. no. all of this thing. we just have shut down. cool, and totally plants. so guess is the only reliable energy source which remains. that means 1st of all, those who are the most critical to both russia have increase our dependency from get back. on the other hand, if we look now to rest job 1st, this dependency is not crucial or it should not be crucial. and 2nd, even the soviet union was a stable liver row of western european energy. so we have experiences with being dependent from rational energy exports and boost experience that are completely very good. but so how was it different now? how is it different now mr. crime? as you say, the soviet union was a reliable partner in sending gas into your fo

is russia going to play ball?ment you are one of the dirtiest, polluting countries on earth. are you going to change? this is not true. dirtiest, and dirtiest once say that the russian natural gas is one of the dirtiest products. well, you are number 52 out of the 57 high—emitting carbon emission countries in the world, so i wouldn't say your performance is great right now. you may say out of 67 or 87, whatever. i mean, we know what we are doing. we have developed the most clean — the cleanest possible technology, both of production and transportation of natural gas and other resources, and we intend to limit and diminish, to cut down our carbon impact according to the state policy that was agreed in interagency format and presented formally to counterparts. we gave engaged in a meaningful dialogue with both the us, uk, european union, european commission, and we focused the work towards full implementation of this global agenda. you should also understand and recognise the role which russia plays in the area of c

and the finger is wagging towards russia with many saying that russia is responsible for this crisis that been countless. i'd magazine articles, debates on tv and radio, and even front covers all suggesting this just like this recent front cover in germany on the focus magazine are which says that putin, his cast off energy to germany, that a, he's waging a war and he's raising the prices using gas as a weapon? well, that has baffled some in germany, including the countries outgoing chancellor anglo merkel. who is not somebody known to min, so words? says the script kiner to my knowledge, there are noses where russia has said we will deliver it to you, especially not with regard to the pipeline in ukraine. russia can only deliver gas on the basis of contractual obligations. and not just only like, at the moment russia supplies around 50 percent of the used gas in doing the pandemic that did taper off a little bit. but when it said that the supplies are back to normal at the moment, and there was some, unless you say, you know, this is nothing to do with russia. this is all a problem

in russia. at this point, russia is only taking measures in response. so like i said, this was the number one method from the muslim call to prayer will be heard across cologne. in germany, after local authorities gave their approval for it to be broadcast over lloyd, speakers, officials say the move as a gesture of respect, but many, so this and stress such a move is that all with european culture and norms. cologne central moscow. it's been a flash point for anti muslim sentiment before with the murder, strongly defending this week's decision. cologne is the city of religious freedom and diversity. those who arrive at the main train station are greeted by the cathedral and accompanied by church bells, many clone residents amused lamps allowing them whereas, and call is for me a sign of respect. the 35 mosques in the city will be able to play the call. busy from to 5 minutes, the initiative comes as part of an agreement between cologne officials on the muslim community mosques seeking to broadcast. it will have to comply with volume limits and notify n

either nato or russia need. well, that is the thing. russia saith expansion of nato infrastructure into neighboring ukraine. would be a red line on a threat to its national security forcing it to take action. i serious scanty think this could get look. busy there has been talks, you know, with ukraine about creating the conditions in which exceptions can be made to normal nato. a processes are normally a nation that is undergoing the kind of internal strife that ukraine is, is not, does not qualify for natal membership. all borders have to be secure, there can be no internal conflict. and of course ukraine is a nation beset by internal cause a conflict. so there's talk right now vogue. busy maybe letting ukraine in recognizing only the borders of the areas that are outside of conflict as having an article 5 of protection. but this is, this is again, going in the wrong direction. russia won't allow it. and nato needs to understand that if they make an effort to bring ukraine in, russia will take action. and you k

so russia never said no. and when mister proven was asked a direct question whether moscow was ever using energy as a political weapon, the answer was straight forward. the answer was no. i want to ask you about it directly. has russia been using energy as a weapon? russia's not using any weapon, if you've been paying attention, as for the economy where we're using weapons in what conflicts are we taking part and for the economy? this is not something we tend to use. this is what i call a politically motivated talk. if the, if there's nothing to support it when it comes to saying that we use energy as some kind of webinar at the end of the day, i guess the question is, how can you expect europe to believe you're a reliable energy partner when you're not supplying that energy via the pipeline or she was if you're a beautiful woman, like what i'm saying, one thing to you and you're saying a different thing to me as if you haven't heard what i said, mr. president with what was the same point was and you said tha

but he said, that's going to be at russia's expense. let's have a quick listening to what that in the putin had to say. but also as a loony trellis. how can you fight for carbon neutrality if the energy balance in europe, in this case in germany, in terms of coal generation, is twice as large as in russia? turns out you can at someone else's expense, in this case, they tried to do it at our expense at the expense of russia, but i hope we will build a dialogue taken into account the interests of old parties. when did what you make it, al, it almost sounds like his occasion and the hypocrisy of it. what did you think? i mean, i mean his is right in the number and are you are you? i'm french and i know that the germans, i missing a lot of c o 2. and so yes, as the thing that we need to do is close those called higher power in germany. and either go into gas or going to nuclear, which determined do not want. so i mean, the energy transition is a step by step protests. and if we do not do a step by step process, if we go back to dogma, then

now, at the core of russia, nature, attentions, lies. most concerned about nato's expansion towards his borders. not only through formal acceptance of new members, but also through some sort of informal corporation, most notably with ukraine in georgia. and i would suppose that now when native feels certain weakness with the american, leaving them in such your disregarding fashion, there will be some need for postering. would you expect that to come come up again with that you know, more courting of georgia and ukraine and perhaps even more pride practical steps in trying to draw them closer in people. i think we've seen that with general lloyd austin statements, you know, those are just statements at this point and wish before but will yes, but i mean, you know, they restate the commitment i don't think that the biden administration wants at the moment to, to actually increase those commitments in practice because after all, it means this is absolutely basic geo politics, if you're facing at least as uses the need for vastly increased c

allow is tribes were repeated last month when russia rebel bruce held a joint military exercise. russia in turn insisted there was no hidden agenda behind those drills. and indeed, some of nato's concerns materialized a mandate that russia announced that it suspending the nato military liaison mission in moscow. after the alliance recalled the accreditation of 8 russian diplomats in brussels, we're commenting on nato's newly unveiled strategy. the credit spokesman said the blocks confrontational tone, proves that moscow was right to sabbath. there was no need for dialogue under these conditions and nato's new concept just goes to prove it. russia hasn't been under any illusions regarding nato. we know what to raise on to hatcher of this alliances . this alliance was not created for peace. who was created for confrontation, kayla suffering, a former austrian foreign minister. karen, can he still welcome back to our, to eager to happy with this? i'll these calls for a nuclear deployment, a sign of escalating tensions between nato and russia. how bad do you think it is at the moment behind

russia apart from each other. it's something we should perhaps touch on is the green transition in europe. there's been this seemingly relentless pushed towards that net 0 emissions, etc. might what we're seeing here on how, how many people are being affected by bills and basically not being able to hit their homes, might not slow down the transition. well, it should, you are absolutely right, but i doubt that politics has any mercy with the ordinary person. on the ground, we see we can see it for quite a while. that politics is adult ideology driven and they don't care on the, on the men on the street. so that's why i think that these people won't have any mercy with us, but you are right. first, this electricity prices climbing up and up and up the gas prices. now climbing up and up the enter, turn around to the green economy. it's just, it's just hope it's not true. it's driven by emotions instead of information or facts. so this is a totally mess. but especially now the, the greens who come into the government

follows you and what has it meant for both of you to write about russia both from inside russia and from the west? >> yeah, so quickly, i left russia in the summer of 2014. i left to finish my book and it was the case that many of my sources in moscow were more and more uncomfortable with speaking with me there because the ukraine crisis was at its height. the west had just imposed sanctions on russia so i flew back to london thinking i would finish the book quickly but turned out the story had really followed me into the west. this was a stage where the putin regime had already accumulated so much power within its own country and it was now seeking to acquire influence in the west and begin its influence campaigns to try and undermine democracies in the west and the rise of far left and the far right and it became almost for me an ever-ending story and i could not leave and write the notes that i had from my time reporting in russia but it became a much bigger story about how russia was -- was seeking to expand its influence beyond its borders and, indeed, many of my sources also f

you know, europe has a supply crunch. russia has the gas to supply it. russia doesn't necessarily benefit from chaos in the market. they want higher stable prices, and they want to be feel of the reliable partner, some words soothing words i guess, which we rarely get from mr. potent. actually helped reverse that. 3540 percent job overnight in natural gas over in europe. an element of, of russia playing politics. but there's also an element of a mommy having been invested in noise. they do not just on the russian side from the european side as well. and outgoing german turns the angle of marco has been vocal in support of russia as a supplier. wagner speaking at an e. u bull can summit in slovenia, she tries, that mosque is always stuck to his contractual obligations. the father is a gift goose. if you ask me whether there have been orders that russia has taken and then fail to fulfill as it stands. now, that is not the case. that is, there are no orders that russia has said no, we will not deliver those to you and we are not pumping gas through their crenan pipeline. rather, russia can o

and from russia's perspective, that looks like a threat to russia's national interest and russia security. those are genuine conflicts of interest, and i think in unless those are talked about, honestly, it's very difficult to get to get a new understanding. while that's so interesting that you bring up nato into this. because i also wanted to ask you about the relations between russia and nato. i mean, it's recently taken a turn for the worse with russian diplomats having been expelled from moscow and moscow's diplomatic mission to the alliance suspended. so how strong do you think the ripple effect of the latest escalation would be? well, i think that, i mean, it's a rift, that goes back a very long way. i mean, you could argue that the, the whole establishment of the nato, russia council, at the end of the cold war as a mechanism for talking between, between nato and russia, that, that never really worked very well. i mean, russia has always complained about not being treated as an equal partner at the table. and i would say that although the, the formal rift that we've seen in recent

and that's not enough for russia as well. because in russia, temperatures rising even greater even higher and faster than you know, generally across the rest of the world. and for us, it will have some serious consequences, considering that vast parts of russia lie in digitally, can you see, and it is far north because it, of course we're thinking about that. you know, we're thinking about the quality of life of people. ah, we are looking, we are removing all kinds of landfills that surround pollutant poison people's lives. we are able to move. we're working to address that. you can share your thoughts if coconut no more look at our until a program he largest industrial centers, we have an entire program which you know, and i plan to address concerns. then overall we are doing well and we have, we have achieved even more if not for the i'm a crisis of 2008 sir. and michelle's biggest, our industry. oh, was complaining that if they started to introduce all those new technologies. although green technology is in many of the com

now russia is pulling the plug on its permanent mission to nato. the complete suspension of its operations is in response to the alliance, kicking out a number of russian diplomats for a legit spike ortiz. fremont cost rift has more russian foreign minister made the announcement on monday saying that says, starting on november 1st, moscow will completely suspend the operations of its mission to nathan, and from now on any emergency communications between the u. s. lead block and russia will be done through the russian embassy in belgium, while an ambassador, alpha, nate member states in moscow chosen by the alliance can perform similar functions here in russia. so this guns, just 2 weeks after nato announced that it would expel a russian diplomats for a legit undisclosed espionage at its brussels headquarters. and that should be in effect on the 1st of november as well. well, according to the russian foreign ministry, it became yet another move on. nato's behalf to use the so called russian threats as a unifying factor for the alliance. and another

he says that russia's somehow weapon ising. it president biden and chancellor merkel committed to taking action. should russia attempt to use energy as a weapon? yet both of tend to blind eye to the puts in regimes deliberate efforts to pressure europe into accelerating the russian node stream to pipelines, certification process by manipulating europe's gas markets and leveraging a severe energy crisis on the continent. and the call says angle of merkel is turning a blind eye to some apparent malign, influenced by russia, but angle of merkel herself has said that russia fulfills all of its obligations in these contracts that are voluntarily made between russia and the european union. the fog, it is a gift. this, if you ask me whether there have been orders that russia has taken and then fail to fulfill as it stands now, that is not the case. that is, there are no orders that frush has said, no, we will not deliver those to you and we're not pumping gas through the ukrainian pipeline. rather russia can only fulfill orders that h

but they have accused russia - difficult. but they have accused russia of- difficult. accused russia of reducing supply. russia says the new underwater pipeline would save your�*s sticky situation, but only if germany and brussels quickly approved the project to get it flowing. not everyone thinks russia is acting reasonably.— thinks russia is acting reasonabl . ~ ., ., , reasonably. we have long been concerned _ reasonably. we have long been concerned about _ reasonably. we have long been concerned about russia - reasonably. we have long been concerned about russia using l concerned about russia using energy as a tool of coercion and a political weapon, we have seen it happen before and we could see it happen again. i think it would be a mistake for russia to try to exploit this. i think that would ultimately backfire and on them and they think they should respond to the market demands for increased energy supplies to europe. increased energy supplies to euro e. ., increased energy supplies to euroe. ., , ., ., europe. that comes from more demand as _ europe. that com

the russia as well. for instance, at combat carbone, the issue of carbon carbon neutrality is something that the country really wants to get to grips with and are taking practices to do just that on greenhouse gases in not affect will be less than because of the actions being taken. big plans for nuclear energy as well. that was one of the issues being spoken about. an interesting part on that. we'll talk to our correspondent and maybe some gas strike the day as well. liquefied natural gas call the cleanest fossil fuel, as well as something that russia will actively target to promote. that's indeed cross to our corresponding then elia a tranquil who for the past number of hours and was listening to the russian president and guess, well, what did you tickle? what's the key highlights from day one. busy then out the russian energy we can plug putin's talk about stopping, coordinate updates in the ok, but of assigned issue there with l. e. as we just try and get a reconnection with him. at that stage, i sai

step forward gas rich russia. ideally placed to exert growing influence in your apartment energy market. my your apartment energy market. my guess is sergei ryabkov, russia's deputy minister of foreign affairs. given moscow scope of an increasingly tense relations with the west, will energy deepen the mistrust? minister sergei ryabkov in moscow, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. minister, we must start with the soaring cost of fossil fuel energy, particularly natural gas. russia possesses vast quantities of natural gas. plus 40% of the natural gas going into europe. there is the concern in europe about the leverage that gives moscow. are you prepared right now to alleviate those concerns? very much s0- _ alleviate those concerns? very much s0- in — alleviate those concerns? very much so. in fact, _ alleviate those concerns? very much so. in fact, this - alleviate those concerns? very much so. in fact, this is - much so. in fact, this is exactly what we have done in recent days and weeks, including with

has russia been using energy as a weapon? russia is not using any weapon. if you've been paying attention, as for the economy, where are we using weapons and what conflicts are we taking part and for the economy? this is not something we tend to use. this is what i call a politically motivated talk. at the end of the day, i guess the question is, how can you expect europe to believe your reliable energy partner when you're not supplying that energy via the pipeline? you said that you're not supplying gas through pipelines to europe, but actually you're mistaken. you are mistaken. and all of those who feed on the information they receive, we are actually increasing our supply to europe. for the reality is there's a whole multitude of reasons for why demand for gas in europe is currently so high . and why supply use of gas and reserves of gas also low. so when you've got that high demand and you've got best, well, low availability, you get high prices, and that's what we're seeing at the moment we have heard from vladimir putin in the recent past. bo, saying

now they are throwing the lane game at russia, and they're really being offended white doesn't russia? doesn't gas from supply us with more gas. so that's why i say it's, it's sort of absurd here. instead of asking, why doesn't the us suppliers with more el and gee, we heard as well, tell us the e u. labor commissioner warning of energy, poverty align that we're hearing quite a bit recently. and because of an already difficult situation for millions of people at high prices is the worst yet to come. in your opinion, it is still going to get worse. because the situation as such is absolutely serious for 2 reasons. um, the word economy did not expect the it to pick up speed as soon as it, as it does after the corona crisis, plus european guests suppliers or bias of russian and other guests of volumes did not expect. i did not feel up after the cold winter did not fill up their reserves . probably they expected a 2nd after a rather luggage corona year. where doesn't what stream to come into that. here we have the observed situation that people are that the european con guest consumers su

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always. russia is wrong. it's the message. this is fake news, giving only one part of the story and there are so good at that in new york in press. does it for me this hour? i will be back to another look at your weekly and about $32.00 and a half minutes. stay with us. ah, ah ah ah, oh also for eric room, identify 2 types of freedom, freedom from and freedom too. while we all idealize the letter achieving the former, the freedom from use and abuse is no small feat in this day and age. this is especially true for africa, which, for centuries has been exploited under all sorts of pretext. what needs to happen with the continent a truly take its deserve place in the world. are beautiful, chilled ocean with on what is his mid august or story. it'll cover the initial yoko noise in the middle. so with a 6 but something you would prevent them with the cool got that's message form. then there was your properties was for what fin the but on with a few years. right. what the, what thank you with some of them with he's got though. why?

well, you know, russia is very aggressive. want to watch on russia on, with talk to russia. but the problem is that nature is creating the very problems and then turns around and says, well, we are the solution to the problem because it, let's just say what happened in the last 2 weeks. they expelled these a mess and from nato and said, well, we're coming back on your, of your russian presence. nature. well, the russians just don't around the same way with either all this time being these accusations a song and we're closing down your office. and most of that nature uses that is your, are look at how aggressive russia is the same thing. when lloyd austin, the us defense secretary, last week he went to visit the georgia, you brain romania, and the last to george and you gray. the daughter nato membership is over for you. well, how does nato, the united states explained russia to respond to this very, obviously they go to respond with a considerable trepidation which so the guns are, are you see? we're right. aggressive look at how there, mouthing of the grading in nature. the

i guess that could work for russia as well. so while dr. leven, thank you very much for your time, has been great pleasure talking to you. thank you so much and thank you for watching hope to see you again next week on well to part. ah mm hm. mm hm. all those driven by dreamers shaped by center some of those with ah, who dares sinks? we dare to ask a protest as poor onto the streets of rome, demanding world leaders to take action to stop climate change. as the italian capital hosts the g. 20 summit doctors in france worn, that budget cuts are leading to staff shortages that comes as top scientists claim . the national health care system is on the brink of collapse with the pandemic taking hold. once again, i see that cause it's the government is to blame for the shortage of medical personnel. fronts is the only country in the world that's been cutting funding during the pandemic, medical staff, the outraged pipes and ready to quit over and with and trash piles up in new york as sanitation workers. protests against the covey dot

the russia might attack. and russia will never attack any word that nato might defend. because you know, on the other hand, i regard unit a stuffy region in the west about a russian threat to invade the baltic states or, or pose does absolutely nonsense in crenan, georgia, that's a different matter. very close. there are ongoing frozen conflict. but now, this notion of red lines is key for both russia and neighbor. and i think, especially the russian level, prison pitching has committed the country to both flexibility and firmness in defining in defending those lines. which i think is a very, you know, significant ambition. and if i were one of the nader commanders, i would want to challenge that. do you think this sam? high stakes game will play out somehow in the near future d thing? nader will try to sort of test. those are read lines as the kremlin draws them well symbolically, you know, like the visits of that british warship or the destroyer to the black sea when they sample. that is not the real danger. know, but that's what i mean symbolically, they will go on t

so russia same will hurry up and go ahead and certify. and once you view, we'll send more natural gas your way and, and what this leader of the, the green party is essentially saying is that blackmail you're trying to force our hand and we shouldn't certify it. here's what so crazy about this idea, guys is that if you think russia's terrible, you don't want to buy their natural gas and don't buy their natural gas and watch the price go up even higher. but it's so crazy to have european leaders who are completely dependent on russian natural gas angry that you're not sending us enough . and then when russia says well, then certify the pipeline that will send it directly to your shores. it doesn't have to cross land, it doesn't have to go to these existing pipelines. there's a new outlet of it they say, and we'll see if we get around to it, it's crazy. that makes no sense at all. and it's all about negotiating for power here. it's, it's just nuts and bend. i have about 30 seconds left here, but in terms of public relations does, does this h

i mean, russia has no intention of leaving cri max may suppression. i mean, most people also know it here, this side. so. so again, it's a diplomatic ballet and i think that will continue talking. does it escalate though? what, what do you think the response from nato will be? is it more talking or will it be action? i don't think there will be more action. that's simple. they, they expelled a diplomat. no rush or response. that's it. and so they will continue. maybe that will be more decorations, but i don't expect name to a to me to mean big decorations about that. perhaps just a line up by the logistics of what happens now. nato a should use the russian ambassador to belgium for any context that's been said by moscow. will this system be as effective as having a mission teenager willoughby or issues or another? oh, probably not. it won't be as effective to begin with, but of course the russian embassy in brussels is very big. there is an ambassador to belgium, animal basset, to european union. so it's so staffed on all heavily staff. it's a big emb

so russia sleeved itself as being ganged together against all the other nations. russia always preferred bilateral ties because with each individual western country, russia is militarily stronger. it's a big nation, and russia preferred that. so what look like, i know, you know, trying to sell them. oh wow, it's a signal, it's not so much a signal, it's a cons, did it. this is that this kind of consolidates. * the fact of the relationship with nate, you as an organization is on the kind of freeze is 0. but that doesn't mean that russian, the west will not have dealings. they will, but not through nato. and the mission was already very much dysfunctional. and russia wants to have this native mission and moscow closed, but nigel embassies are going to work here. so it's not as bad as it sounds you. but russia, as it has read repeatedly, accused nato of provocatively expanding military infrastructure closer. theresa, it's borders. you don't think there's a risk that the tension is good, good escalate further? well, there's always a risk of escalation. there's a possibility of a clash happen