a lot of critics of us here you know a lot of critics say that china russia is getting involved in a relationship with you know we can find alliance we're in our partner whatever ok but the kind of working with china the way they are that russia will inevitably be the junior partner how do we have to the world there was such a danger of the west is liquidity in this danger by its own actions and was originally this so-called new silk route was very much supported by his beginning of brzezinski because what later became belton rolled initiative was opposed to war through the central asian republics former central asian republics of the soviet union to the caspian found then why are the. europe. look what happened suddenly china saw that the united states and the west in general ease of a sort of a. stability they started the trade war the technology war with wade was not china who started this confrontation china try to make peace and few observers noted this by xi jinping after his meeting with putin he goes to be here goes to do sean bear their capitals all the central asian republic

russia and china. together all my goodness you know threatening western institutions and their way of life i mean just a very rhetorical pitch tells you a whole lot about the policy perceptions will we have the united states changing its foreign policy and defense postures assuming that the the adversaries that they will fight is not the war on terrorism because it was never a war on terrorism but now of great appear power confrontations which of course keeps our defense industries well well paid ok and if you invested in those companies you're going to make a lot of money go ahead marcus. well i think that american politicians know if little one is really our wretched creatures because undoubtedly there are some who do believe that sasha and china are going to seem up its hate on america and what is their fear because of that that the russians and the chinese will impair america's ability to wage war around the world what's wrong with that. what you're on with that had china the north at back i seen i

gas coal and also water to china which is crucial for the chinese economy also china and russia on alarms at american aggression in the well as in china's alarmed at the increasing american naval presence in the south china sea china is alarmed at the american defense system in south korea and of russia is alarmed by nature in eastern europe but i'm not i know this is going to disappoint some people. they get the idea that russia and china are going to cons to take on american bankrupt america is of course following the chinese over the last 6 years have achieved nothing short of an economic miracle and that they were will be based on its relationship with china so the chinese will not do anything that could jeopardize their economic sense and so i would describe the relationship between the us and china as something like $36.00 i think it's good for global peace i think it's good for global stability russia and china are more allies than they are i think that that's a very good point and i actually that is my position as well you know kamal we've heard a lot about this relationship and s

china to russia. the united states has started a direct confrontation with its longtime challenger china exchanging tariffs on goods and using diplomacy to keep its competitors economy and trading ambitions in check but with the 2 largest economies entering into a standoff how will the rest of the world cope with the ripple effect the crumbling relations of the 2 superpowers lead to something a lot worse than just taxes. good afternoon your excellent seaward really happy to have your program today yes there are lots to discuss so let's get started. that the belgian wrote form in china the presidency said that russia and china face similar challenges and you know that they should develop in coordination to recommit this challenge and that side is developing at a far greater pace compared to russia that is there was so in your view how could russia and china coordinate or synchronize their of development. yes this is an interesting question. i am ready to answer as you know in may 2015. been our presiden

and we're back with china's ambassador to russia. press your excellency let me ask you about the trade war between china and the united states today if 2 countries try to agree on a set of conditions would benefit both of them it seemed as if they were close to signing an agreement but as of now not only is there no agreement but the u.s. has imposed was even heavier tariffs on china and that's 2 way it is today so hard it is new terrace of acting china's economy. as you know in recent years the chinese economy has being moving in its own. development. and i probably have vast markets our own internal markets as well. mystic consumer demand for chinese made products which is huge. and of course china has been developing close cooperation with the outer world you would do as well as you why ever since the policy of reform and opening up. has been started. it's not just the outer world to. rely on we have our own internal strength as well higher tariffs and you to affect china in a negative way surely at the good news but they are damag

china and russia on alarmed at american aggression in the world's china's alarmed at the increase in the american naval presence in the south china sea china is alarmed at the american defense system in south korea and russia is alarmed i know it's very nice you know but i'm not i know this is going to disappoint some people. the idea that russia and china are going to come to take on america and bankrupting america is of course folly the chinese over the last 6 years achieved nothing short of an economic miracle and that it was being based on its relationship with china so the chinese will not do anything that could jeopardize their economic sense and so i would describe the relationship between the 2 and china as something like it's $36.00 i think it's good for global peace i think it's good for global stability and china and more allies they are i think that that's a very good point and i actually that is my position as well you know kamal we've heard a lot about this relationship and some people called strategic partnership there's been a lot of words ok trade is up ticking but i

it's the mindset of russia and china have embraced, the mindset that's guiding their approach to nuclear modernization and weapons. and nuclear weapons remain central to russia and china's plans and intentions and therefore for the defense intelligence agency we look to provide our leadership with advantage. rebecca. >> thank you very much for those remarks. i think the one thing that caught my ear there, when you were talking about testing. the russians have been conducting tests that are inconsistent with cbc. it can you talk about that and the implications of that and how that would benefit their program. >> i can't really get into the details of that, but just the protocols and our understanding and belief they're set up in such a way that they are able to operate beyond what would be necessary for a zero yield. and so the facilities that they're operating have that capacity to operate in something other than zero yield and a further concern, as kind of my closing statement with the p-5 language not willing to affirm that they're adhering to that is where the u.s. is and how we've op

russia. as you know but our leaders agreed that china and russia will develop their cooperation in various areas including economy and trade. and it is very important to push forward your economic cooperation and investments . but i can say that in recent years. china has been investing in the world actually more and more. have the exact right now but i can tell you that it's quite a significant increase. sometimes the economy follows its own legs you know just said that in the 1st half of 2018. down much a little bit and most likely there is another explanation for that for you this. for example a very important political event. took place in china last year. china's national people's congress if you put it in the 2nd half of the here investments went up and so are enthusiastic about our relations with russia continues to grow and grow significantly and i think that there are objective reasons for the slight drop in investments that we have. because in the 1st half of 2018. our agenda the ministers have their own very tight and busy schedule the there are however making plans for further develo

being said that russia and china are countering threats of unilateralism of protectionism promoting multilateral trade or do you think of that well obviously russia is very strongly against sanctions which are major violation of international trade and kind of protectionism but based on politics and economics and china doesn't want to use u.s. terrorists and trade rules they're having with the u.s. so both countries have an obvious. common interest in protecting against sanctions and protectionism and having open trade and on unilateralism that's a standard phrase it's been years more in the political context feeling that the u.s. is undermining international law breaking international treaties walking away from the a.b.m. treaty from the i.m.f. into now into major new consoles treaty breaking away from here on nuclear deal and an action you know her almost disregarding international community and united initiatives do you think this meeting sends out any particular message signals to the west. well i think it's a kind of warning to the west mild sort of right to say look russia. wrong with your

on the point about china and russia, that's something i worried about it. operation picked up earnest in the early days after the end of the cold war. we're talking of the yugoslav interventions. you saw china, russia put together and put out a statement. together jointly calling for a multipolar order. in 1999, chinese meet with general putin. there are accountings -- you can read the transcripts from the memoirs of these generals saying we need to stop the united states and central china. we see the steadily increasing degree of intimacy over time, going back to the mid-1990's. now i think there is more military dimensions. what i am most concerned about is coordinated strategic action. if we see china do something in the east china sea and russia do something simultaneously in he baltics, then we face a two-prong problem. caitlin: a lot of the themes that have been raised her back to what we mean by strategic competition. an aspect would be that competition is different from outright conflict. if you're already in full-blown conflict or war, that may be i

on the other point about china and russia, it's something i worry i lot about. china-russia cooperation really picked up in ernest in the early days after the end of the cold war, so we're talking really about the yugoslav invasions. you see china and russia together jointly calling for an order. they meet with putin. you can kraread the transcripts saying we need to stop the americans in central asia. so we see as a increasing intimacy of the two for a time, and now i think there's more military dimensions in e.w., right? and in addition, of course, you know, the unusual arms sales. what i'm most concerned about is coordinated strategic action. if we see china do something in the east china sea and russia do something simultaneously in the baltics, we fay a two-front problem. >> i think a lot of the themes go back to harlan's question about what do we meanly strategic competition, an aspect i would throw in, i think competent addition is different from outright conflict it's also a kay where you may have very few mutual interests. competition can be a situation

on the other point about china and russia, it is something i worry about. china and russia cooperation picked up in the early days after the end of the cold war, with the yugoslavian interventions and the bombings. you saw china and russia get together and put out a statement calling for a multicolor order and in 1999, a chinese general with vladimir putin segued to stop the americans in central asia we see the steadily increasing degree of intimacy over time, going back to the mid-1990's. now i think there is more military dimensions. what i am most concerned about is coordinated strategic action. if we see china do something in the china sea and russia simultaneously, then we face a two from problem. caitlin: a lot of the themes that have been raised her back to what we mean by strategic competition. an aspect would be that competition is different from outright conflict. if you're in a war, you're very few mutual interests. competition may you have a tense relationship, but you also have areas of overlapping interest. we do have those with china. we have

like russia, china is working to fill nuclear precision-range strike systems. while china's overall arsenal is much smaller in russia's, that does not make this trend any less concerning. based on the united states's experience with developing nuclear weapons, the efforts required for china's substantive and rapid expansion of their nuclear weapon program and capabilities. the u.s. government information indicates that china is possibly preparing to operate its test site year-round, a development that speaks directly to china's growing goals as a nuclear force. further, china continues to use explosive containment chambers at its new clear test site. china leaders previously joined brescia in watering down the language of the p-5 statement that would have affirmed the uniform understanding of zero yield testing. the combination of these facts and china's lack of transparency on their nuclear testing activities raise questions as to whether china could achieve such progress without activities inconsistent with the nuclear test ban treaty. it is important to note

the bill to mood in the stiff with with more than a little degree of suspicion do you think china and russia can enjoy very very close relations well there are definitely challenges but there are also great opportunities to expand those relations between moscow and beijing we have seen a growing trade relationship between china and russia in the best few years we have seen a much more much closer political dialogue between the 2 nations we have seen an expansion of russian energy exports into china and we have also issues with the recession spent expanding cultural dialogue so also they are one of the enders i couldn't try so i'm sorry to cut you off with these energy contracts a lot of them were signed in 2014 before the before the current tensions between the us and with china. but. when we talk about the business relations you know rushing chana just a few hours ago at the st petersburg economic forum there is a new id and there was a new agreement signed between why way and its russian counterparts on the chain use development of 5 g. networks in russia and that's a very good point let m

friendships must be cultivated to that end china bestowed an honorary doctorate on russia's president last month at a press conference for the event vladimir putin praised the 2 countries relationship given a strategic. china is by any measure a strategic partner so we biggest trade turnover is with china skipped it last year trade between the 2 countries rose 27 percent to $107000000000.00 russia sells china raw materials while china sends back machinery transport and consumer goods to increase trade the 2 are investing in new transport links like this cross border bridge over the abu or river it's set to open for traffic next year but. in france we've long said that we need to build more infrastructure. right now 2 friendly countries with a long shared border can't trade normally because they lack the proper infrastructure. both presidents have promised to remedy that they've met dozens of times in recent years and the kremlin says they have good personal chemistry as well. as presidential visit to st petersburg has been in the works for a long time. china and russia support each ot

china are serious problems india russia not so bad but you know china doesn't want the india russia axis to get too strong so you know they're there and they're at. their at sixes and sevens inside their organization alexiev iran has observer status at this meeting it wants in though will it ever be invited to join the grouping do you think and what would that mean for the dynamics of the group that david was just talking about that. well from the beginning veer c.e.o. wasn't that extensive and as we know that india and pakistan just recently joined they're going ization as a full members and now we have 4 observer members including iran so i think ultimately iran will become the part of the organization and that is inevitable for for any kind of the. organization coming back to the larger picture of a c.e.o. role and 3 powers which were mentioned but my colleagues would also not forget that it as c.e.o. is not the only platform where this parties can talk and negotiate they also have breaks platform they also have g 20 platform and all bunch of other platforms so it's the importance of

russia got two. >> trevor: that's right. china gave not one but two pandas to russia. which is huge. yeah. because one panda can't make babies. two babies also can't, but there's hope. ( laughter ) and, remember, china only gives pandas to country when they wish to be close allies. they call it panda diplomacy. this is a real thing, panda diplomacy. not to be confused with panda express diplomacy, where i convinced them to let me use the battle room, even though i didn't buy anything. technically, china didn't give russia the pandas. the russians get to keep the pandas for a few years. which applies takeover panda in the world. china owns every single panda so at some point they have to go home and i guess it's because china doesn't want pandas to forget their rootsz. you don't want them staying in new jersey for too long. you don't want them saying, "what is this bamboo? how about how about some gabagool and fettucheen. >> russia and china continue to strengthen their economic ties, they're also expanding their military cooperation. chinese troops taking part in massiv

china serious problems india russia not so bad but you know china doesn't want the india russia axis to get too strong so you know they're there and they're at. their at sixes and sevens inside their organization alexiev iran has observer status at this meeting it wants in though will it ever be invited to join the grouping do you think and what would that mean for the dynamics of the group that david was just talking about that. well from the beginning veer c.e.o. wasn't that extensive and as we know that indian pakistan just recently joined they're going ization as a full members and now we have 4 observer members including iran so i think ultimately iran will become the part of the organisation and that is inevitable for for any kind of been his. organisation coming back to the larger picture of a c.e.o. role and 3 powers which were mentioned but my colleagues would also not forget that it s e o is not the only platform where this parties can talk and negotiate they also have brakes platform they also have g 20 platform and bunch of other platforms so it's the importance of such f

china is russia's eggers trading partner. amentally different for the ship then china and the us. but it's clear that they're trying to do something together, the challenge for investors, how we interpret that and whether that makes a difference to the business climate and the investment climate. and the geopolitics of very important. the timing is everything. moscow is rolling out the red carpet today, for a three—day visit. right in the thick of the trade. it looks like it is at quite a critical time because the busy is not very positive between the two. that's right, if we've learned anything over the last few years it is that it is very difficult to predict the outcome of political events. whether it is a meeting between two leaders of the brexit vote of the trump election, and so we think about what that might mean for investors, what it might mean for investors, what it might mean for business, it's important to look at the economic fundamentals, what is happening in the global economy rather than trying to move for pred

when russia or china or the u.s. get those capabilities they develop in such a way that they can use them irrespective of who the enemy may be. to bring that out of the context that that is a possibility as well. let's switch over to china and i will take your questions. you said that they have tested more missiles than the rest of the world i think in one year? i would have to look, but in recent time. and my understanding is that has been their approach to the military trading strategy. can you talk a little bit about the missiles that the chinese have that have they been party to the treaty they would be in violation because they have inf 80 to 90% would be in violation of the treaty. >> and back to the commander-i have not gone out and made a 90% determination but i would imagine it is a significant part of the inventory which is the intermediate range ballistic missile excuse me the 26th or the 21 which is a medium-range missile all could be used in that regional context and were they signatories of the inf type

and russia and china are strained let's us in the both of them not between russia and china so when you look at this situation china and russia are now reacting for china of course we know about this trade war that's going on and it just seems to be getting worse china has actually gone so far as to call the u.s. an economic terrorist so yeah that those are pretty hard words and of course for good reason we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars in terror of spitting in the 2 nations instigated by the u.s. with russia there is those controversial tariffs i should say sanctions as well that are ongoing from the united states so now these 2 countries are saying hey let's strengthen our relationship we're huge we're massive we're in the top 3 arguably i'd say that they are and that they should basically become what they can become economically together now these 2 organizations since 2000 i should say countries since 2013 have met nearly 30 times and when i say they have met i mean president g. and. president putin the 2 of them that's pretty high especially when you see internat

no one has done more it's a bring china and russia together than president donald trump a move perhaps that we've heard there from mine a tank and that's at china's seen this mantle as somewhat reluctantly and it's all tied to the efforts of your presidents say to that. well i would not characterize this as a new cold war president trump has been very consistent in making clear that the decisions he makes are decisions that are in the best interest of the american people he has also said quite often that he understands that there are leaders throughout the world who will take positions that will be in the best interest of their people now i notice some of the wording used in the press reports over the putin sheet summit that they were speaking in a businesslike manner so these are business decisions indeed there is politics involved i believe they're going to be using their summit as leverage with regard to the actions that the united states has taken but i don't believe anyone's pushing panic buttons yet these are decisions or at least meetings and and decisions that are being made in

friendships must be cultivated to that end china bestowed an honorary doctorate on russia's president last month at a press conference for the event vladimir putin praised the 2 countries relationship good enough for the skipper china is by any measure a strategic partner so we biggest trade turn of is with china. last year trade between the 2 countries rose 27 percent to $107000000000.00 russia sells china raw materials while china sends back machinery transport and consumer goods to increase trade the 2 are investing in new transport links like this cross border bridge over the am or river it's set to open for traffic next year but. in for us we've long said that we need to build more infrastructure. right now 2 friendly countries with a long shared border can't trade normally because they lack the proper infrastructure to go it is michigan about offering it's up this machine for us was very weak and both presidents have promised to remedy that they've met dozens of times in recent years and the kremlin says they have good personal chemistry as well. as presidential visit to st pete

again i think nothing fundamental has changed these 2 countries still i each other warily russia looks to china as a threat and over the long term not only among russia's underpopulated east in siberia but also because china has made inroads on traditional russian sphere as of influence in central asia and that competition between russia and china is going to continue to subsist despite their interest in countering the united states and meeting together how long a new mind until this relationship starts to tilt done with the china morning post 24 hours ago talking about beijing's difficulty in getting its hands on currency getting its hands on dollars but presumably one can't extract to say oh well they might flip so they might start working in rubles i mean that's never going to happen. no i think the russia and china will always be there will be an interest in them working together but they'll be limits to that cooperation so 100000000000 in trade that was hit last year about a 24 percent increase between the 2 countries again that pales in comparison to the trade between the united states an

this is a trade between russia and china can that be substitution a replacement for. relations between russia and the west well listen. we are not creating a military alliances with china we are still allies but we are not working against anyone we are working for the benefit of our countries and our partners and we are not substituting our supplanting anything our relations with the european union have always been multifaceted. we have been treated to the tune of 400000000000 annually. which was have to but not because of us it was not our initiative. and now it is getting closer to 300000000000 a year common sense is beginning to prevail the trade is beginning to grow again one doesn't impede the other but we are ready to work with everyone including the united states and the volume of trade their. course is a minimum of barmah trade that was a $20000000000.00 trump it's now $5000000000.00 more even though trump has implemented many restrictions as regards russia with the greatest number of restrictions against russia but the trail there is growing a bit we are not s

so to my colleagues across the aisle who in 2016 realized that these bad actors, russia, china, iran, north korea, people that i call the new axis of evil did not wish us well, i am so pleased to know that they have come to this realization that they indeed do not wish us well. and my hope is that in a bipartisan way we can move forward and make certain that we do not allow these bad actors to in any way impede our freedoms or infringe on our government. now, specific to the u.c. that was presented to us, this would require presidential campaign and all employees to report their contacts with foreign nationals in which they discuss a contribution, donation, or expenditure such as an ad or coordination, collaboration, providing information, providing services, or persistent and repeated contact with the government or a foreign country or an agent thereof. now, this is what it all means. these reporting requirements are overbroad. presidential campaigns would have to worry about disclosure at a variety of levels. so many different levels. consider this. vendors that work for a campaign,

actually agree with my colleague that what we have here is perhaps a marriage of convenience china and russia obviously have a lot of geopolitical issues that they share their outlook is much closer than the one that donald trump is pushing but you know this this trade away from multilateralism is something that china opposes russia somewhere in between and donald trump is clearly intent on destroying the order that was created by the united states after the world war or 2 so in terms of what this means for china i think they feel that they're pushed into this situation china has resisted in the past any hind of call for any kind of formal either military or earlier political alliance they simply want to do trade but with the hostile acts going on they see you know this that for instance this attack on our way in these terrorists as the beginning as said a cold war that does not appear to have an end and will in fact separates the united states from china abstain from rogers says no one has done more sobrang china and russia together than president donald trump a move perhaps we've heard ther

china serious problems india russia not so bad but you know china doesn't want the india russia axis to get too strong so you know they're there they're out. there at sixes and sevens inside their organization alexiev iran has observer status at this meeting it wants in though will it ever be invited to join the grouping do you think and what would that mean for the dynamics of the group that david was just talking about that. well from the beginning the air as c.e.o. wasn't that extensive and as we know that india and pakistan just recently joined they're going ization as a full members and now we have 4 observer members including iran so i think ultimately iran will become the part of the organization and that is inevitable for for any kind of been. organization coming back to the larger picture of a c.e.o. role and 3 powers which were mentioned but my colleagues would also not forget that it s c o is not the only platform where this parties can talk and negotiate they also have brakes platform they also have g 20 platform and a bunch of other platforms so it's the importance of su

no one has done more sobrang china and russia together than president donald trump a move perhaps we've heard there from minor tighen that said china's seen this mantle as somewhat reluctantly and it's all tied to the efforts of your presidents say to that. well i would not characterize this as a new cold war president trump has been very consistent in making clear that the decisions he makes are decisions that are in the best interest of the american people he has also said quite often that he understands that there are leaders throughout the world who will take positions that will be in the best interest of their people now i notice some of the wording used in the press reports over the putin sheet summit that they were speaking in a businesslike manner so these are business decisions indeed there is politics involved i believe they're going to be using their summit as leverage with regard to the actions that the united states has taken but i don't believe anyone's pushing panic buttons yet these are decisions or at least meetings and and decisions that are being made in a businesslik

this is an opportunity for russia to demonstrate an interest in a bilateral relationship, and for china which is concerned about avoiding an arms race as our we, here's an opportunity to match words with actions were country that purports to have minimum deterrence policy. second, the next arms control agreement must constrain potential adversaries military capabilities and prevent unnecessary military competition. with russia causing the demise of the inf treaty, it has graded created a situation where the bulk of its nuclear weapons and modernization program are exempt from arms control. we know russia will seek related concessions like missile defense. the president has been clear we will not negotiate away missile defenses ever. as you know, it is ironic that russia, a country with 68 nuclear capable interceptors, spends so much time worried about our missile defenses, which are tailored to rogue states. based on the national security strategy and national defense strategy, the united states has moved to address a new phase of competition with countries like china, which means it no

and to what extent do they receive from russia and china? and cooperating with iran on nuclear development quick. >> thank you one of the biggest challenges from what you can say and what you cannot but that is not what i cannot say an open forum but i appreciate the interest i can only assure you that we watch that but you are asking me things i cannot disclose an open forum but i appreciate your question. . >> one last question over here. . >> good morning general thank you for being here. my name is julian kyle lewis the american university in washington. during the cuban missile crisi crisis, president kennedy and the attorney general at the time really had to sit down and strategize how they would incrementally reassure the american public of our ability to protect the homeland. i was hoping you could illustrate for us our strategy as leaders in the united states to reassure citizens still go to football or baseball games and live the lives that we can enjo enjoy. >> i will punch that question to the next panel because that is what they

russia direct investment. and china investment corporation and we made the best one for all of them to earn the right to. good attractive returns and yesterday we announced the formation of a new investment fund with china in technology we also made our 1st deal in venture capital with tools holding which is a major techno park in china and also we close ali baba our investment in russia jointly with us mega form and mail are you will build the largest you commerce platform in russia so lots of great important cooperation with china it's really important because it's not a last minute thing over the last 10 years president putin and president of china including president xi have been working to improve russia china relations there definitely its support right now and we need to do more projects more investment together but it's very important it's not a friendship a game stumm by the it's a strategic alliance that really makes sense. while looking ahead to today these live pictures now it is a lot of people gathered in