russia is dependent on china in ways that china is not dependent on russia. but who is standing up for this alternative vision and pushing back most vigorously against the west? it is russia, not china. in that respect, it is not clear to me that they see themselves as russian partners and at some point russian greatness will not allow us to sustain that posture. bay: we have a question in coming from in from a member online. >> we will take the next question from robert hormetz. >> i would like to follow-up up richard's point on the trade issue. because one of the most important elements in trying to contain this grouping particularly in china, and to get other countries who you mentioned might be more attracted to china because of trade relations, the united states needs to have a coherent trade policy with countries other than the g7 oecd countries , which means a number of the emerging markets, global south. the problem is, in this administration, which you would have thought would have been inclined in that direction, it has been the opposite. like the p

shannon: i will start a bit with russia and china in the region. they have been historically on more parallel tracks and tightly combined. russia came in predominately on the security side. richard brought up the cuban missile crisis. that is the big entry. still russia has had long-standing ties with cuba, with venezuela, nicaragua, many other authoritarian regimes, supplying arms, military training and the like. there is not a huge commercial relationship in the region. some have come into the energy sector because many of the companies were sanctioned, it is the one place they could go. probably the most significant trait is fertilizer with brazil. china, on the other hand, has come into latin america on a very commercial side. a lot of investment, finding resources they needed for their growth over the last 25 years. a lot of investment in infrastructure and the like. more recently moving into telecommunications, electricity grids, other things. but we are seeing china begin to come in on the security intelligence side. there is a big base in so

both russia and china work state to state channels. if ngos are involved, they are in the name only, they are the government organized government organizations, fewer of those that russia works with. mostly in serbia and a handful of other locations. still, all of that finding is strictly controlled by the state china also works through the government channels. yes. it will affect now that you brought it up. it will have a trickle-down effect on civil societies in those countries. not really competition but in effect will be felt on declaration of the society that traditionally received funding from u.s. embassies or field offices. i did not even think about it, but i think it is one of the effects that may potentially, we may potentially observe. >> if i can follow up on that question and in a sense ask a question that is the other side of the coin of henry's question. looking at opinions in countries which have been receiving covid-19 assistance. what do we know about how local public opinion has been deceiving the kind of vaccine dip

and so the remainder of my talk, i'm going to present geopolitical logic of china, russia, and the united states, but in a very simplified way, just kind of to give you the feel for how this argument looks in practice. so let me begin with china. i'm going to the wrong direction now. china. china is known as an emerging donors. why? because it was only in 2005 that china transformed itself from being a recipient of aid to being an international donor. but of course china's geopolitical rise, rise in terms of a shift in the distribution of power at the global level, emboldened beijing to sort of offer a new set of ideas, about different things, including international humanitarian assistance. in fact, china does not use the language of aid. it uses terminology to refer to those win-win collaborations. it doesn't refer to the resip yets of aid as resip yets and as a done or. you cannot find donor and recipient terms in chinese very cab rather. for china, it hearkens back to the colonial era. so it really wants to portray itself as someone who is on equal terms with the recipients of assista

there is a reluctance to side with the tray, china-russia. there's also, also plays out in a way where countries can leverage a manipulate the competition. one of the other negatives byproducts of geopolitical competition is that united unitd states, china and russia they themselves can be placed by the actors on the graphic we don't want to recognize it but this is what's happening against the government society. they have their own political agenda. they have own domestic agenda and to do what an interest of the government in power. and they can leverage this competition in the interest of those in power. you're right, that we comes to russia's or some of china funded vaccines, they will received much better in many local context and now it'd been presented in the west. but it was russia who promised more than it was able to deliver. a lot of the contracts were signed on significant volumes of covert sexy were not fulfilled overfilled only partly. that undermine russia's credibility because of russia's own ambiguity to fill the commitments h

the china support the, the russia to us. we approach mom and, and then we have the reports on the wall street journal that china offered to be a peace broker up between the 2 and, and possibly offer a venue in b gene for meeting between put and, and, and, and trump, i think this is very a, china is very, very walk can be for this development because china is always stated piece, negotiation should be the goal and, and also what once there's finally peasy duration. this also helped china to further advance it's to which is spelled enroll projects all the way to your all right, we're gonna leave it there are to contribute our carl john. carl, thank you to thank you. all right, before we go, we have some breaking news to tell you about m. 23. insurgents have reported, they captured another city in the democratic republic of congo, reports and say, the militants have taken because of the provincial capital bordering lawanda. and home to over a 1000000 people for their classes have reportedly flared up in the area. tensions have s

it's russia, it's china, it's our adversaries. well, democratic representatives clamor over and pending usa i, the budget cuts are to correspondence, ask you to tailor those into the murky history of the agencies cobra, to foreign meddling as an old hand. and the biggest play in the game, usa, i, they really should have seen it coming. how often movies, decades, could they not have smelt a president shutting down here? is that the, the, the reason is that as opposed to simply because you're trying to do and do some minor house cleaning is, is that again sir, usa usa id, it became apparent that when we have here is, is not an apple was a woman. but we have actually just a bowl of ones. and so it's as a point which you don't really like for you to go to an apple is go to it, it may, you can take them out. but if you could actually just a ball of ones, it's as hopeless and you're savvy as a bowl of words. mm hm. right? there is no apple. and we're still apple does this, you just gotta basically get rid of the whole thing. nothing but

russia is now on a rough -- war footing. china is helping russia but if you went back to the period in the 50's and 60's they were extremely antagonistic. they actually fought minor skirmishes along their common border. the antagonism was tense in the communist world in those days. most communist had to believe what it is that came out of moscow, it was russia was the first communist nation and leave that was therefore entitled to the respect of all other communists not just respect, obedience of all the other communists. china present -- was in dissent against the idea that it -- mausert did not believe he had to bow down in front of anybody and he regarded khrushchev as a peasant. that they were both peasants. but khrushchev was a peasant to became the soviet union. mao, a president to leader of china. china was in the 1960's was only 10 years or so removed from its own revolution becoming a communist country. he thought it deserved to be the leader. they were in constant ideological conflict, splitting the communist world apart

troops in ukraine not off the table, president trump calling for peace with russia and china at the white. >> i would love to have them back i think it was a mistake to throw them out it's not a question of liking russia or not liking russia. think putin would like to be back, obama and a couple of other people made a mistake and they got russia out. it's very possible if that was the g8 you would not have a problem with ukraine. >> don't you want have a conversation with global defense spending. >> i would like to have that as soon as things settle down i will have the conference primarily with china and russia because those are the two that are out there. we will have them spend a lot less money and we will spend a lot less money and i know they will do it, they agreed to it. we were talking about the nuclear rising and president putin and i agreed that we were going to do it in a very big w way. maria: joining the pennsylvania congressman house foreign affairs committee member scott perry, good to see you, thank you for being here, give us your take, what strikes you most about the pre

on military because, and i'm going to be meeting with china, you know, we were trying to de escalate nuclear. and i was in a position where russia had agreed in china category, and we were going to sudden, then we had a rig the election. so that never took place slowly. us, china and russia are the will as largest nuclear states and have been since the 1950s. let's take a closer look for us in washing collectively possess around 90 percent of our nuclear warheads. moscow has 4380 deployed or in storage. while washington has 37082023. the us spent at least $51000000000.00 on nuclear weapons, followed by china, which spent more than $11000000000.20 trump tried and failed to set out 3 way talks between the us, china and russia. he then refused to extend the 2010 new strategic arms reduction tracy with russia, which sets the limit for deployed strategic nuclear warheads. andre box and all of as the deputy chairman of the board of the association of russian diplomats. and he's joining us live from moscow. thank you very much for your time . so the nuclear reduction, tracy new stock between washington and moscow, which i believe is th

russia is now on a rough -- war footing. china is helping russia but if you went back to the period in the 50's and 60's they were extremely antagonistic. they actually fought minor skirmishes along their common border. the antagonism was tense in the communist world in those days. most communist had to believe what it is that came out of moscow, it was russia was the first communist nation and leave that was therefore entitled to the respect of all other communists not just respect, obedience of all the other communists. china present -- was in dissent against the idea that it -- mausert did not believe he had to bow down in front of anybody and he regarded khrushchev as a peasant. that they were both peasants. but khrushchev was a peasant to became the soviet union. mao, a president to leader of china. china was in the 1960's was only 10 years or so removed from its own revolution becoming a communist country. he thought it deserved to be the leader. they were in constant ideological conflict, splitting the communist world apart

we step back and we create a vacuum, you know who steps in it's russia, it's china. it's our adversaries. when we spoke to former lieutenant colonel in the american army, spell his laughter picnic. we say he's us. a id, programs have turned sovereign states into washington dependent corporations under the guise of promoting democracy. us id. oh, it was for the quote democracy by installing public dictators to do it, including the government's destroying their countries. murder and people are sponsored all day. they don't do themselves, but they do it for sponsoring others won't have what we do, but to have a taste of power. they left behind the destroy nations or the process of destroying nations and resources are going straight up to us corporations. this was nothing new. us aids job was one of their job is to promote that american dream. it has nothing to do with the reality of living in the us. it has everything to do with this little fantasy world and they sell the people. you're, as you can get here and you can move like this. there are, we'll make you to here a

of course that follows on some of the activities of the doge group that are celebrated by russia, china, iran, you start to see 70 years of american soft power. through usaid and other institutions that try to be a most erased or disappeared and the first three weeks of the administration that's great news for china or russia that can come in and very quickly supplement where america provided humanitarian or medical aid and countries that are terribly important there is not a single person current or particularly some of our retired military that don't strongly stand up for soft power that they represent. >> let's get into doge and elon musk because i think of it here has been reading some of the headlines coming out about. when it comes to security both national and global, how is elon smusk's work having an impact? >> first of all, we don't know yet. the democrats on the intelligence committee have written to try to say, who are these doge folks what level plants do they have? we've already seen release of classified information in terms of the national common sense organization the r

china. and russia is a very good partner and allied with china. and these, i would say pretty much, it's forget the g 7, right? okay, just forget the g 7 or the g 8. this is really down to these 3 nations. these are the nations that are going to be calling the shots for the next 10 years. we've got developed in road and we've got america wanting to be in part of that part of that party. and i think you're going to see exactly what you quoted earlier that this is pretty much these 3 deciding the future for the next decade. for sure. what do you think is going through the landscape mines at the moment? as you see small cobarrubias sitting opposite? so a lot for, of course he wasn't invited. we know your thoughts. do you think he's slightly on edge? that that'd be an understatement. it'd be like this exact side, going to the atm and the atm, taking your bank card from you and say, well now what? and then going to where you used to be popular and all the doors are closed. nobody wants this guy around you. nobody's invited them anywhere and he just kee

it is russia, china, our adversaries from around the world. from the standpoint of national security, the work that you all are doing out here at usaid, many of you, my constituents, we have over 55 thousand federal government employees in the seventh congressional district. i thank you. i thank you for your hard work. [applause] we have some tough times ahead but congress and the american people are behind you. let me put one concrete way that we are actually damaging our national security. right now, every single day, ukraine is taking the brunt of russian attacks on infrastructure. usaid programs are actually rebuilding the infrastructure, electricity infrastructure. if this administration wants to bring peace to ukraine, you don't do that by eliminating the support for the infrastructure in ukraine. you do that by applying pressure to russia, and not just to ukraine. my message is, we support you at usaid. this is a matter of u.s. national security. democrats, my colleagues, we are going to fight like hell to make sure we preserve our nati

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russia. it's been to come to life like china by russia. gas and china has been helping russia and i don't think was the person that would be able to get that you can so i think uh instead of this uh, based off that bill of getting benefits for us. yeah. i think for us. yeah, since we're giving you a good basically, we will not forget what time that has to be. we've been helping us for the last 23 years or be awesome. it's always been on the sides. i've always been think they were all for us. yeah. and everything us will be one time of the big bottles use issue because they don't want that. they sign up get the spotlights. so yeah, but i think brushing is very closely as long as, as long as there will be wonderful living dining room. thank these devices going to side by the while china has been very helpful to russia for so far. okay, we're gonna leave it there. head of brokerage, the universities government and international relations department, assman already on to as ease. thank you. thank you for having a 20 it pedestrians, including children, have reportedly been injured in a car ramming i

and if we know anything about russia in china's relations, they all jointly expanded the global if it was through, usually developed non waste and multilateral institutions, such as the breaks the group of nations, the shanghai corporation organizations. just to name a few. and this isn't the 1st time that russia and china exchange views on international and regional issues of mutual interest and concern. almost every gathering the meeting of states. the 2 countries always make it a point to leave, to have been polished, multilateral coordination, unilateral acts safeguarding regional pieces, the bulletin, even promoting the development of what happened as an to walk to days. conversation entailed to justice. the issue in your project with frequent meetings are necessary because the situation in the world requires constant attention and a constant exchange of information with trustworthy assessments. this traditionally characterizes our relations, which is becoming increasingly important factor in stabilizing the international situation and preventing it from sliding into total confro

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that follows on some of the activities of the doge group that have been celebrated by russia, china, iran as you start to see for example 70 years of american soft power through usaid and other institutions try to be almost erased or disappeared in the first three weeks of the administration. that is great news for china or russia that can come in and quickly supplement where america has provided humanitarian or medical aid. there's not a person particular will i some of our retired military that don't make the -- that don't strongly stand up for the soft power foreign aid represents. >> let's get into doge and elon musk because i think everyone has been reading headlines out of that group. when it comes to security both national appear global how is elon musk's work having an impact? >> we don't know yet. the democrats on the intelligence committee have written to say who are the doge folks, what level of clearance do they have. we have seen release of classified information in terms of the national reconnaissance organization and number of employees. that may have been ignorance. o

there's also about china ending gas purchases from russia, which i'd like to ask this home if china does not buy gas from russia, one country will be able to provide them with so much gas with u. s. to meet the needs of chinese people. it's not possible to do, and it's not safe because you know, some countries from 10 to politicize, economic and trade issues, and treat them as a tool to suppress china all along. we have advocated that all disputes and disagreements should be settled through dialogues. however, if the us is not willing, if it is bent on suppressing and containing china, then we have no choice but to play along to the end july. we will resolutely uphold china sovereignty national dignity and are legitimate development rights. and we will resolutely respond to the unilateral bullying practices of the us funds or after model r t contributor called job point saw in europe. also, benefits from russia's energy supplies to china, receiving it by a 3rd party is just stating the facts. china and brush. i had a strategic partnership law for a long time now. and when president she d

china sees that, russia sees that and they will take advantage. our job and your job together is to raise our voices, raise the alarm so that this crisis is embolden of our enmiss and doesn't last a second longer than it has to. thank you, everybody, for being here today. really, really important. i want to introduce my colleague from the house, representative omar. rep. omar: thank you, senator. it is really, really a sad day in america. we are witnessing a constitutional crisis. we talked about trump wanting to be a dictator on day one and here we are. this is what the beginning of dictatorship looks like, when you gut the constitution and you install yourself as the sole power, that is how dictators are made. what trump and elon and all of their genius are trying to do is take away the constitutional power of congress. we get to decide. we have the power of the%. we get to decide where money is allocated and it's the executive's power to make sure that money gets to where it needs to get. when we talk about civil servants being let go, what we

china. you know, we were trying to de-escalate nuclear, and i was in a position where russia had agreed and reed, we were going to start. then we had a rigged election, so that never took place, but this one was too big to reg. . we won by so much of it was too big to rig. >> will you meet in the united states or in china? pres. trump: i tell people all the time, who's going to have the first meeting? i said this to putin, to president xi, i say to everybody, it never bothered me, you know, i'm willing to say, i will go first. it does not matter. it is the end result that counts. so he does not make any difference. >> on global defense spending -- pres. trump: as soon and things settle down, i'm going to have a conference, primarily with china and russia, because those are the two that really are out there. we will have them spend a lot less money, we will spend a lot less money, and i know they are going to do it. they agreed to it. we were talking about de-nuking, de-denuclearize, de-nuking, and president putin and i agreed we were going to do it in a big way. there's no reason for us to b

russia. it's not china, it's not russia. it's not china, it's not any other external actor.hat i worry about is the threat from within. the retreat of europe threat from within. the retreat of euro farm, and now they have clark's farm, and now they have both been reserved for adoption. so that's a little bit of great news for us. there we go. so see the duchess. >> watching on television. we have duchess there reserves. >> she's been reserved. and we also have veera who's been reserved. >> oh there we go. >> oh there we go. >> yeah. and i just think that is such an important message that you can adopt beautiful dogs who also need a home. there's so many dogs out there. james, are you a are you a dog fan? >> yes. well, we've got a westie at home, so adopted. >> yeah. not to criticise too much. i mean obviously people. >> who are. jasper. yeah. seven numbers of of mothers, rising numbers of mums with no recourse for funds, refugee migrants they have no knowledge of what milk they are very stressed in terrible accommodations. i've seen mums living in temporary accommodation whe

. >> threat that i worry the most about vis a vis europe is not russia, it's not china, it's not any other external actor. and what i worry about is the threat from within. the retreat of europe from some of its most fundamental values, values shared with the united states of america. >> meanwhile, he also responded to volodymyr zelenskyy concerns over a lack of a ready plan to end the war in ukraine. it comes after donald trump spoke with vladimir putin and agreed to work very closely to end the conflict. ukraine's president says putin isn't preparing for peace, but to continue deceiving the world, and insists any peace deal must guarantee ukraine's independence. meanwhile, the foreign secretary, david lammy, has spoken with the us vice president, saying the uk us special relationship is as endunng special relationship is as enduring as ever and assuring they had agreed on ukraine. >> i was very encouraged in our conversations about ukraine. all of us have this desire to bring this horrendous war to an end. we share the view that there has to be an enduring peace. we recognise that

i would hope china, india and russia and the us can get along. very important. : what do you make of that? >> it is a key point. china is pulling the strings on the ukraine war because it is an asset to russia's banker, the russian economy would tank. xi is in control of this, put on notice to de-escalate and get to a resolution and one last thing about the india/china thing. india is dependent on russia for weapons supplies, partner of choice. the problems they face with of the skirmish on the border is in the event of war with china they will resupply china because of that relationship. that's a huge opportunity with prime minister modhi's plan, that we are going to be your nato compliant partner of choice going forward. ashley: things are moving quickly. as always, thank you for your expertise on this. we appreciate it. now this. the military just released a new recruitment ad. what is the strategy? lauren: non-nansen -- no-nonsense, that contrast with a woke ad during the biden presidency. first you are going to see the one under the biden administration foll

i mean, if, if china did not buy gas from russia, where is europe going to get rushing gas? you know, as we all know, lot of the rushing gas is being sold to china. india gets re package and re sell it to europe, malware. but in a very interesting time, because trump has specifically said, do you want to wrap up the war in ukraine? and this has throw a lot of european leaders into a tailspin because they, they don't know what to do. now for 4 years, they have followed the washington line on ukraine and in regards to their relationship to russia. and now trump is saying, you know what? it was a mistake, the green worries, the mistake we should make peace. and so i think it's still very hard for a lot of european leader to make that adjustment most school safety of is attempting to frame russia. fred roland strongly on the defense nuclear plant, inter noble, the concrete shelter that covers the pumps destroyed former 4th power unit was head, sparking a fire that was later extinguished. the incident occurred just the day after the russian and american presidents agreed to seek a

and the fact that you had sort of russia and china welcome, this move, tells you a lot about what it's doing to us all power and the perception of the united states, a trip march. i mean it's as though we have gone into hospitals, and for unplugged, the translators, people who were accounting on their h i v meds next day. shaw and the door's locked. the ripple effect to this truck is what you have. i mean, if i get women from afghanistan, you know, we're on the wrong natal. i'm on inside of the chemist on orient. practiced on who's safe houses. i've had to shutter their doors. so the level at which this is going to ripple out across communities and countries amongst the world for us that, that even people who are watching this are allies and partners, are we reliable as a country to show up both when they need it for humanitarian assistance or support them and depression for example, like the message is going to be clear that we are not reliable. and that actually, but on accountable billionaire and oligarch has the ability to unplug, what has been a global lifeline, an insurance polic

and also part of south africa's riveting towards russia, china and the brakes. and its response to the trump administration's moves, the south african government said it was concerned by what seems to be a campaign of misinformation and propaganda are for, for them probably play the part and n g o launched in 2006 to defend the interests of offer, connors, it is led by a former politician, cali creek, who admits apartheid was wrong, but still denies. it was a crime against humanity. air for, for them started making inroads overseas during donald trump's 1st term and often having used social media to spread its message, planting the notion of a white genocide in south africa. it found some willing listeners in washington and be off to a faster the insignificant story. the media have all but ignored among them. tucker carlson and fox news in 2018 after 4. and i think recognizes that it operates in a very small space in south africa. and it has taken advantage of the rise of right elements in europe. and in america, south africa does of baptism this lazy journalism

russia, our competitors russia and china would have to agree. >> look, we are talking about these cutst the same time you and your colleagues are coming up with a budget reconciliation bill. singular one gop bill now out of committee headed to the full house for a vote. this proposal would allow for these four and a half trillion dollars in tax cuts. cut spending by one and half trillion over 10 years. 300 billion a new border in defense spending and raising the debt limit by $4 trillion. are you expecting to vote for it in this passage the house and senate? >> we will certainly find out. harder for any bill to pass the house. maybe more challenging than it is in the senate. different dynamics in a lot of different personalities. in the house, we are like a family. sometimes a dysfunctional family but still a family. i know what is important to most of us. we need to curtail, we need to reduce the jet -- debt to gdp ratio. grow the economy and reduce spending. that is what we are on up at ford. this budget would be one step towards our goal but certainly we are still far away from it.