period of struggle, it left such a mark that all the memories are vivid, as if they happened yesterday. it was in those years that russian rectors, at the instigation of sadovnichy, united into a uniony defend the interests of science and education. viktor antonovich is the permanent president of this organization, and viktor egorovich romanov was vice-president. headed the st. petersburg state university of technology and design. we changed premieres quite often during this period. after gaidar, there started to be one or two, some better, some worse, some, so to speak, somehow attentive to the universities, to our requests, some not. rectors did not give up, knocked on all possible thresholds, asked, proved and solved complex problems related to equipping universities, financing, and forms of education. with every minister. met with everyone, there were more of them than prime ministers, about six or seven people, probably during this period, everyone was told that please do not make decisions without the consent of the union of rectors of russia, they are still the same now, decades later gather, hold advice, discuss, think about how it will be better, but not for them, higher ed