minimalist russia, reagan off russia, and beseized russia. i will ask one brief question. if you had to rate the odds of each of those being the most influential paradime based on what putin is doing and the united states is doing and what you see going on within russia itself. do you have a likelihood or is it too soon? >> implicit in what i was saying is the story is the interaction of the three you could say because and we talked about having another russia that would spend $150-$150 billion a year putting it into a second tier. we ahead of the european powers. that is a muscular russia. the min -- minimalist russia is smaller. as little as $50 billion a year. arguing a kind of defense and special forces are the new game in russia that i don't think they will back off from. ... the entourage around, they are very much concerned about russia's economic strength and role in the global economy. they don't have the illusion that russia can cut itself off from the world economy. economy. they cannot possibly go for these more hardline variance in life. so i would suggest loo

i will focus on the minimalist russia, the reaganoff russia and the besieged russia. if you had to rate the odds of each of those being the most influential paradigm in a decade -- notia based on what only on what you are seeing putin do, but what you see within the relationship between ,he united states and russia which of those you see? it is hard to say. it is the story of the interaction of these three you could say. -- weminimalist russia also put this in budgetary terms. a muscular russia, a big spending muscular russia who would spend between $100 billion --to $150 billion a year nobody spends more than the u.s. but it puts them ahead of all of the other european powers. minimalist russia asng much smaller, maybe little as $50 billion a year, arguing that a minimalist russia, the kind of defense that would be needed to focus on the nuclear, russia would maintain its parity with the u.s. in nuclear, and it russian forces. -- it's special forces. this is the new game in russia that i do not think they are going to focus on. take -- i don't know that anybody knows

russia is back in the middle east after saddam through the soviet union out. russia is back. it's an extremely important domestic political imperative for him to show that whatever economic difficulties they have, russia is a great power again, whether it's in ukraine, the middle east, and god knows what is going to be next. me, is how putin calculates it. so long that the regime he supports is in power, that is putin's strategic goal. who he has to bomb along the way is a secondary matter. he leaves it to the people on the ground. >> what do you think? i haven't seen reports that russian warplanes have bombed. my understanding is that russia's interests in syria require that russia has a say in the future of this country, but the notion that russia would 's opponents isad mistaken. russia has hosted negotiations between some members of the syrian opposition. russia has discussed, according ,o those opposition members potential participation of these opponents in the future government. therefore, i think as long as russia's interests in syria are honored, which is the presenc

russia. >> they would take into account russia's interests, which would include insurance stability in syria so it doesn't become a sit -- a failed say -- a failed state and so it will not become a place for groups to attack russia and its allies. touring the russia continues trade with syria in goods that russia -- its economy, which .s mostly oil and gas russia is a major buyer of machinery. russia will remain open to the dialogue and the notion that it could borrow many of its opponents is mistaken. spokesperson for the foreign ministry said openly what has privately by russian officials for a long time, the russia is not married to the idea keeping assad necessarily in power. talk a little bit about the challenges that the russians military presence in syria poses in terms of the conflict in syria. what challenge do you see for us there? infant -- if in fact has its bombing campaign, too, i think the main question is making sure the to where forces do not run into each other. this is a se

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why don't you come to russia"? so 1927 my grandfather goes to russia. he ends up meeting-- a russian girl who becomes my grandmother. my father is born there. and then five years later, in 1932, the communist party sends him back to america to become the general secretary of the america communist party. he runs for president in 1936 and '40 against roosevelt. he's imprisoned by roosevelt in '41, pardoned the next year. and then ultimately kicked out of the communist party in 1945 for being too capitalist. and one would've thought that would be the end of the story. but then in the 1950s he was persecuted for being a communist. they did-- they didn't deter-- they didn't distinguish between good communists and-- >> right. >> bad communists. >> what was your upbringing like? you have-- a highly educated family. everybody in your family-- has really excelled in their fields. >> well, so-- so-- so we-- yeah. i mean, if you come from a family of communists-- it just perm-- permeates everything. at the dinner table, you know, the discussion was how all busines

if russia wanted the elections, russia has the influence, the power to make it happen. and so, we're still seeing a russian goal, which is destabilization of ukraine. maybe at this point they do not need it. because of what is happened over the course of the last year and a half, and the hardening of public opinion in ukraine, they may create a difficulty for the president in terms of accepting terms that would allow the russians -- probably less today then was extinct or 17 months ago. sofford: that question is hypothetical. the idea there would be massive amounts of economic assistance from the eu and the united states to ukraine is remote. they are going to do that. i do not think that putin would see economic assistance of ukraine as any particular threat. the eastern ukraine situation is with the heart of it. they have plenty of levers that they have not used. that is not really in their interest. but they will be employed if they think it is necessary to prevent a literal threat about ukraine joining nato. i would like to hope that we could increase the odd withre

ensuring that russia's presence syria has it has been and ensuring that russia continues to trade with syria in goods that let syria has rus diversify its economy which is mostly about oil and gas. syria is a major buyer of russian machinery including arms. so as long as there is interest, russia will remain open to dialogue. and the notion that it would bomb any of assad's opponents i think are mistaken. if you read what the spokesperson for the foreign ministry said openly what had been said privately by russian officials for a long time that russia is not married to the dea of keeping assad necessarily in power. >> somebody talk about the challenges that the russians military presence in syria poses to the united states in terms of its conflict in syria. what challenges do you see for us there? >> well, clearly if in fact the u.s. has its own bombing campaign against isis and that's certainly russia has its bombing campaign, too, that is the main question is deconflicks. we want the make sure that the two air forces don't run into each other. and so this i think is -- this is a seri

russia is doing?>> obviously we would prefer russia to make a contribute tiff contribution to our ongoing anti-isil effort and it certainly is not in the interest of the united states for russia to exacerbate this sectarian conflict, but ultimately it is russians that will pay the highest price for that. gardner? >> josh, the russians seem to be particularly targeting groups funded and armed by cia how will president respond? is this renewal of the cold war-like war proxy? >> not at all and here's what is important to understand. i was making reference to indiscriminate -- >> it not indiscriminate. >> well i, i think it is indiscriminate and let me explain why because russia in justifying these actions suggest that they are carrying out operations against opponents to the assad regime. >> right. >> fact is there are extremists idealogically-driven, essentially terrorists who are opponents of the assad regime. these are groups like isil and nusra, have been the focus of our operations. there are also e

let russia risk their lives and treasure. >> that's a great thought if we knew that russia was going to go after isis. as michelle said, they targeted american-backed rebels thus far. no action in terms of combatting isis and russia likes it best when the world is upside down, when they're creating the chaos and the u.s. on the back foot. i think really that we could have known that we were going to be moving towards this state of complete disarray when putin illegally annexed crimea last year and we all but ignored it. they have troops in the ukraine. we ignore it. they say they're not there and the facts are there. russians are dying every day across the border in eastern ukraine and we do nothing about it. >> stay here, john. not suggesting vladimir putin is our friend or trust him. i'm simply saying if he wants to do it, knock yourself out. >> well, i mean, eric, i can understand why there's confusion. this policy i think both frankly for potentially donald trump and obama is incoherent. there's no wars declared. there's no moral judgment passed on anyone. iran is kind of our ene

both russia and the united states need to address them. if they think how to defeat terrorists, not only in the middle east, but within their own countries, i would point out social economic deprivation, historical grievances, poor governance, and political instability. i would point to the spread of violent ideologists, particularly militants. finally, in the motivational causes, i would point to an abuse of population. if there is anything that creates grievances, it's the abuse of populations in the hands of authorities. cooperation between the united states and russia against terrorism in general, isis and al qaeda in particular, can not only significantly advance international efforts to contain the organization's expansion within iraq and adjacent countries, but can also help stop a new cold war between western roche -- russia in the wake of the ukraine crisis, although there is no bargain. the ukraine crisis will have to be resolved regardless, but that cooperation, let me repeat, will help stop the slide toward a new cold war. than

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of course russia has come out and denied that.ussian president vladimir putin said there were reports of civilian casualties before our planes even got off of the ground. but this is par for the course, if you will. as long as you cannot independently verify what is going on. it always leaves a big question mark. >> but is it all spin, and courtney, i want to bring you in on this conversation, because you have seen these videos, saying they are striking isil targets. is there evidence that they are not striking isil targets; that they may be striking at cia-trained rebels, and pentagon-trained rebels. >> the u.s. doesn't have a lot of rebels there. we don't have an ally or group in this state. if they were bombing baghdad, it could have been along with the iraqi government that could be a problem. >> but if they are bombing free syrian army guys -- >> technically. but we're five years into a conflict, they haven't received that much support. you have much more support going on in northern iraq and iraq. you also have a lot of thes

russia has real concerns about terrorism and ice is coming back to russia. a number of terrorists from the north caucasus have joined the syrian civil war since it started in 2011. some of these groups have declared that they are loyal to the caucasus emirate's establishes in the north caucasus under the leadership of of -- however some of these factions have joined isis and pledged allegiance to isis and are fighting in the name of isis. moreover some of those mujahideen fight against syria have declared that they will be coming back to russia, that they will be striking against russia and some of them have started coming back to russia and this is a growing concern for the russian government and for the russian security services. .. >> >> also eliminated april and august 2015. o last insurgent leader who had some level of control the organization since then is undergoing a lot of transitions. currently we're not speaking of a unified body but instead of lots of different factions and fighting among them. even in 2010 to be in different groups when the lead

not al qaeda you said russia. that for their foreign policy banks. >> larry: the 1980s called a bit of nearsighted snobbery there mr. president, mr. president the 2030s called and everybody is speaking russian. just sayin. all right, let's try and fix this. you know i got to give mitt romney credit. he called it right on russia but of course this week's polygamist sect leader warren jeff was accused of abusing two of his kid, all in all kind of an up and down week for the mormons. so what do we do about russia. the white house has reacted by wishfully thinking maybe putin really was aiming at isis. >> too early for me to say exactly what targets they were aiming at and what targets were he ven allly hit-- eventually hit. >> larry: i haven't seen a statement this lame since whatever matt damon said five minutes ago. (applause) >> larry: just saying. just saying. i'm just keeping a hundred right now. look the bottom line is putin is looking for trouble. and he doesn't give a [bleep] what anybody is saying. look at t

russia is back in the middle east russia's back. it is an extremely important political imperative for him to show whatever economic difficulties i have, russia is a great power again, whether it is in ukraine, whether it is in the middle east , and god knows what is going to be next. so these to me is i think how putin calculates it. frankly, so long as the regime he supports is in power, i think that is putin's strategic goal. is ay has to bomb secondary -- who he has to bomb is a secondary matter to him. >> what do you think? >> i haven't seen reports of haverussian warplanes done. my understanding is that russia's interests in syria require that russia has a say the future of this country. notion that russia would , ib any of assad's opponents think, is mistaken. russia has hosted negotiations between some members of the syrian opposition and syrian officials. russia has discussed, according to those

believe russia has the wrong strategy.y continue to hit targets that are not isil. we believe this is a fundamental mistake. despite what the russians say, we have got agreed to cooperate with russia so long as they continue to pursue a mistaken strategy and hit these targets. >> let's go live now to moscow to peter sharp. it looks like another escalation in the russian operations in syria. >> reporter: that's right. they have opened a second front with the launch this morning of these 26 cruise missiles that as you say hit 26 missiles hit 11 targets. interesting to see that these pictures were put on domestic television almost immediately. russia wants to let the people see that. it's once again an indication of russia's resurgence and trying to convince the people that it is now becoming a world player. what we got earlier was russia had to basically talk to iraq and iran to get permission to overfly their areas. they plotted the routes of the missiles carefully to avoid any nato country members air space. that meant ski

my understanding is that russia's interests in syria require that russia has a say in future of this country, but the notion that russia would bomb any of assad's opponents i think is mistaken. is mistaken. russia has posted negotiations -- posted -- between some of the syrian opposition and syrian officials. russia has discussed according to those opposition members as cited in press potential participation of these opponents in the future government. so, therefore, i think as long as russia's interest in syria, which is the presence of the russian navy in the tatars, avatars facility, continue military and national cooperation with the syria, and ensuring that there is no failed state in syria which is the largest concern of russia, it would be open to accommodating potential transition to a coalition government in the long run. again, i haven't seen -- >> the government of though would be in favor of russia. >> it's all black and white. that would take into account russia's interest which includes ensuring stability of the syria so it doesn't become a failed state and, therefore,

russia can't effect bashar al-assad going, russia is not in power to make him leave. with a direct military intervention, russia is in a better position to determine the fate of syria, and it changes things a bit. russia is not all personally attached. that's clear. russia believes that the syrian army and the syrian - whoever leaves it, is the way forward. that is the core of their position. but in the long term, yes, russia is now in a place where it could affect regime changes. it could agree to a transition away from bashar al-assad, and force them to do it. before, frankly, it couldn't. >> various syrian rebel groups are forming an alliance after six days of strikes. various groups labelled russian actions in syria as an act of occupation. they are calling on regional states to support a united front against russian and iranian forces fighting on behalf of the bashar al-assad regime >>> the syrian opposition is concerned that russia's military intervention, the objective is not just to target i.s.i.l., but weaken the opponents of the syrian government. now 41 reb

, soviet russia.this was greater russia. ,then all of a sudden, the ussr collapsed, overnight, in fact, right? it has turned out that in former soviet republics, there were russian people numbering 25 million. they had been living in a single country, and all of a sudden, they turned out to be abroad. you can imagine how many problems arose. first of all, there were everyday problems, economic problems, social problems, the separation of families. you cannot list them all. do you think it is normal that 25 million russian people were abroad all of a sudden? russians turned out to be the largest divided nation in the world today. is that not a problem? well, not for you, but it is for me. charlie: what do you intend to do about it? pres. putin: we want to preserve at least at a minimum the common humanitarian space. to make it so that these borders do not get in the way, so that people can communicate freely among themselves, so we can develop our economies jointly. we want to take advantage of those b

syria, russia and syria, russia and syria. nobody speaks about ukraine. i think it's quite a clever step from russia's side, but i hope that all nato and also e.u. countries, u.s., will not forget about ukraine and we will keep ukraine issues still as a hot topic on our agenda despite russian activities in syria. but anyway, our russia involvement in syria conflict, it's of course, is additional forces for fighting with sisal is good, but in the same time, any involvement must be really coordinated with already existing coalition against isil. and here i see a problem that this coordination doesn't happen. it means it will probably cause a lot of problems in the near future on communication, on planning military activities, bombings and so on and can arise, really, very un -- difficult situation in syria and, of course, a question about the role of assad and all countries said that we will not work together with assad's regime, and they must go away from his position. and here we see, again, this conflict between opinion of russia and coalition. >> a ques

we are here to do talk about russia.as we're beginning of thebout discussion to t think about what is more inherent with the of russian national security character we're trying not to immediately not tn put the attention on president putin i am sure foc many of your questions ints. the second half of the event will focus on currentff and events. but the project that we undertook stars to get the some russtion well with those choices be and how does that influence the way russia would make its choice? to divide that away from putin it is hard at this juncture given and the degree the kgb operative has come to dominate russian national security on political space and you know, he is the author -- the co-author of the subject many of you have already seen this with a new and expanded edition that came out after to the of ukraine crisis this is one of manyundere books also a paramountudgment is economist and one of the best books he ever wrote in my judgment was the price of a pass to and understand the andacy of the militar

what is russia's objective? if they're fighting isil, then why are they targeting places where isil is not present? why are they targeting places where syrian opposition groups fighting the syrian government are located? for them russia has joined the fight on the side of assad. they believe that russia's goal is to eliminate whatever is left of the so-called moderate opposition to tell the international community that they only have two choices, the syrian government or isil. but what is also important is we need to look at the map. we need to see where exactly those russian airstrikes have been taking place. it kind of surrounds the regime strong hold in the coastal area, almost trying to help the government protect those areas, because they have to remember the rebels were on the advance -- were on the offensive over recent months. they've taken the whole province of idlib, pushing south. the government has had a hard time keeping them back. all these airstrikes will help the government survive, protect the g

they are very important to russia.hey don't have the same level of importance for the united states because we have many other global issues with which we have to deal. it is a fact of life that we have to accept that we are not going to take action that would risk direct confrontation with russia. now when we look at syria and the middle east this is not georgia, this is not ukraine. issues.different set of what are our interests and how can we best defend them? ,ost: the book by angela stent she is a senior fellow at the transatlantic academy. the headline this past tuesday from "the washington times," that photograph of president obama and president who didn't as they met, a clash of words. and earlier in the day vladimir putin had this to say about russia's interest in syria. [video clip] >> russia has always been dedicated to fighting terrorism. we think it is an enormous mistake to refuse to help the syrian government while they are fighting terrorism face-to-face. we should acknowledge that no but the forces are

russia didn't wait for that. without any such talks, the today. >> mike viqueira for us at the white house. america against i.s.i.l., and against bashar al-assad. so far backing rebels. i'll look at the solution for >> gang life... this was our foundation. it's what we all knew. when i met daisy, it was the best day of my life. i told my co-workers, i'm gonna marry her... when my past caught up with me and made us all pay the price. >> it was very confusing... they were just, "where is it? where did he put it"? the social worker said, "i'm gonna have to take the baby". you're gonna have to kill me to take my child. they took my family. he's like, "they're using your child as leverage". the day i think i'm getting sarah back, my public defender tells me they're gonna take me to trial. i don't know how i'm gonna do it but... i need another lawyer. >> that judge is not known for his compassion. >> if at any point i'm not fighting for my family, i don't know what that would do to me. >> families don't survive this. >

with russia targetting u.s.-supported groups, the pentagon will not make the same pledge. >> if there are unique circumstances, when that was discussed previously, and i'm not going to get into a situation of talking about hypotheticals in terms of what might happen in the future. >> as for the future, russia is leaving open the door to expanding air strikes into neighbouring iran, buts only if asked. >> we were not invited, arrived, and we are polite people, as you know, we don't come if not invited. >> that on a day when iraq's leader expressed dissatisfaction with u.s. air support and seemed to be issuing an invitation. >> if we get the offer, we continue it. in actual fact, i'd welcome it. >> after days of denying the programme to train and equip syrian fighters have been suspended, the pentagon now admits that the programme has been paused. some syrians are trained outside the country. none are sent back into battle, until the pentagon can figure out how the spectacularly unsuccessful programme can be fixed

urgent meeting after russia's air saassault on syria.ays after president obama and p putin had the meeting. >> hurricane joaquin gets stronger with muany under water. >> hurting our heros. the medical program for all of the 9-11 first responders. what happens when they need the healthcare to survive. >> good morning to you. welcome to "fox and friend first. i am heather childers. >> i am ainsley earhardt. russia launching air strikes in syria in support of president bashar al-assad. >> they are scheduling urgent talks concerned to the conflict could escalate. we have the developments that have broken overnight. >> russia said it was going to join the fight against isis. it has been building up the military presence in syria supposedly to do this. yesterday secretary of defense ash carter said they weren't anywhere near isis instead they bombed roots opposing syrian president bashar al-assad. >> it is like pouring gasoline on the fire. >> our position is clear that is lasting defeat of isil and syria can only be achieved in parallel with

and russia to the west. and the u.s. says despite conducting only a handful of strikes in syria in the recent days, the russian campaign is having no effect on coalition efforts. >> it's only because these are dynamic targeting processes. so we are continuing, and we have not atured operations in syria to accommodate new players on the battlefield. >> reporter: senate armed services committee chairman, john mccain said that the decommission talks are offering nothing, but bashar al-assad's brutalization of his people. in a statement, mccain says, are we trying to conflict with russian operations that tart rebels and kill innocent civilians or to keep bashar al-assad in power? he made clear that the u.s. has a responsibility to protect rebel fighters it has trained and sent into wait a minute. >> we definitely acknowledged that we have unnobles to their safety. >> u.s. did bomb the el nusra front to protect the first group of fighters, but now with russia allegedly targeting u.s.-supported groups, the pentagon won't make

listed his objections to russia's moves. russian background defensive by assad regime forces. russian aircraft coming within a few miles of u.s. drones. and cruz missiles lost without warning. thursday reports emerged that four of those missiles badly missed their mark crashing near iran. russia had received permission for iran for missiles launched to fly over its territory on its way to targets in syria. russia denies the report and said that all the missiles reached their target. they vowed to act when it comes to fight with russia. >> nato is ready to protect all allies against any threat. that, of course, also goes for turkey. >> critics say president obama should have anticipated russia's aggressive actions, and that he has been outmaneuvered by his russian counterpart vladimir putin. >> i think a lot of it is simple misunderstanding of russia's intentions. you know, we always think that if we could just get together at the table, if we could just have a conversation we could find a win-win scenario. we're all about wi

russia blocked and dropped a resolution condemning the annexation in march 2014. me, personally, as the ukrainian member of parliament, was -- [indiscernible] no member of parliament. it was just a russian shoulder -- soldier surrounding the parliament of crimea. the second time, russia was -- [indiscernible] -- to investigate and bring to justice all responsible for the malaysian mh17 plane crash. by imposing its disgraceful veto on this resolution, russia clearly demonstrated that the defined in is establishing the truth. not just the truth about the oppressors of these terroristic attacks and arms used to shut down that plane. what is most important is the truth about those who organized these crimes and from which countries the arms have -- had been transported. i think everyone in this room clearly understands real motives of russia's veto on the mh17 tribunal. establishment of the international peacekeeping operation, which could lead to the establishment -- the situationof in ukraine has also been blocked because of a russian veto. as ae of the veto rights

the west is colluding with russia.t is happening now is efforts to end our revolution. >> reporter: opponents of assad say russia's intervention could give the government an advantage, and they believe that is the objective. to use military force for diplomatic gains. where president assad could negotiate a settlement from a position of strength. >>> as questions mount over who moscow is targeting, president putin has always been discussing the crisis in ukraine. he and president hollande were joined in paris by the leaders russia and ukraine. neave barker has been following this talks in paris for us, and has the latest. >> reporter: this was the first contact between putin and western powers since russia began aerial targets in syria, but they were focusing on the ukraine situation. an accord largely fell to the wayside. now as the french and german leaders have suggested all sides are willing to put some of these 13 points listed in the minks agreement into practice, including the withdraw of heavy weaponry, focusin

unless we have some type of diplomatic relations with russia, an agreement with russia. see russia as being in a situation -- they have involved them services to where they're going to be a major broker in that region, because iran seems to be, if you will, more influential as far as in iraq and in syria now with assad being helped and propped up by russia. we're out there fighting isil. we don't -- we're not protecting the people that can basically put an ease to any security back into syria. i just -- it's a very confusing situation. it's hard for us to say at the end of the day, here is our end game. if somebody has any explanation for that and tells me what we're trying to accomplish, i would be happy to hear it. >> i will take that, senator. for us, the paramount objective is the defeat of isil. that will require -- >> that's our number one priority right now in syria? >> because they're trying to attack america. we have to take that seriously. they must be defeated. >> i'm sorry, mr. secretary. you do agree that russia's primary is to protect assad? >> they said th

russia is targeting rebels, fighting regime forces, not isis. >>> russia is ramping up its campaign inn cruise missiles launched from ships in the sea. >> and moscow is hinting it could begin operations in iraq as well. here's senior international correspondent ben wedeman. >> reporter: the latest dramatic escalation in this conflict. russia's military says it's now using some of the most advanced warships and precise weapons to strike groups in syria. the russian defense minister proudly informed the russian president of the details in this highly stage meeting broadcast on state television. four missile ships launched missiles on 11 targets. all the targets have been destroyed and no civilian facilities have been hit. the strike results have confirmed the high long range efficiency at distances of 1,500 kilometers. >> reporter: they've released this map of the missiles to the targets in syria. it's emerging as russia's back door into the middle east. >> there are no american spy ships around or drones or submarines, so they can't monitor our launches, which is important. this is a ki

russia says it's attacking i.s.i.l. and now is launching a coordinated ground and air offensive against non-i.s.i.l. opponents. >> it is clearly going to extend the war. this is for the people that would like to see the end of it. bombing, killing, barrel bombing, forcing them to leave, to become refugees headed for europe and other places. this intrusion by the russians extends that suffering. >> there's an argument that the global response is weak and took too long, is russia stepping up. >> it's stepping up, but in the wrong direction. if the intent is to stop it happening. and to stop the civil war, they prolong if for the reasons, that is, he is drawing opposition from all over the world to bashar al-assad. did russia stop everyone, including n.a.t.o. by surprise, as in ukraine when they entered syria, is there an example of the west underestimating the kremlin. >> i think people assume that the head - the decision-making powers in large nations, large responsible nations act rationally. >> yes, we did not expect m

>> next a look at russia and u.s. military operations in syria. "new york times" reporter stephen the iris talks about vladimir putin's leadership style and philosophy driving russia as part of the assault regime and how the obama administration's approach to combating isis has dealt with the added presence of russian forces. the women's foreign-policy guru posted to the discussion. >>> good evening everyone. thank you all for joining us for a special beyond the headlines event obama and putin battlefield syria. karen deyoung national security correspondent and associate editor for the "washington post." steven lee myers, who is washington correspondent for "the new york times" covering national security issues and spent a lot of time in russia and also baghdad bureau chief and most significantly for tonight the new book the news are the riots and drain of vladimir putin. i am patricia ellis president of president of the women's foreign-policy group and we promote women's leadership and voices on pressing international issues of the day. and this

war planes will not comply with the russia request. u.s. war planes continued carrying out missions today. >> what we should say to vladimir putin, you fly, but we fly anywhere we want to, when and who we want to and you better stay out of the way. >> the russian general, brett, was from that military cell that we first reported russia established with syria and iran last week in baghdad. another surprise for the u.s. embassy and the pentagon. >> we'll head back for any breaking details. jennifer griffin at the pentagon, thank you. >>> now to the politics and the policy of the russian moves. the things was caught by surprise, despite the fact that president obama's -- presidents obama and putin spoke face to face at the united nations just monday. correspondent kevin cork has that from the white house. >> i believe there's an opportunity to be able to do, to go down that political track. because president putin accepted the idea of a dual track effort. >> it may be a novel idea, but in practice, the russians appear to have a one-track mind

with isil, assad and with russia? >> well, he wants the russians to stop attacking what is described as the syrian moderate opposition. what the united states describes as a syrian opposition. the fighters that they're supporting and training, and he wants the russians to focus mainly on what he calls daesh, a derogatory term for isil in arabic, striking isil, so a settlement could be knocked out between the various parties, including the russians. he considers the russians important partners thi in trying to find a peaceful solution. we all know that they're saying what is good for the goose is good for the gander. if they can support those against isis. >> let's listen to what secretary kerry had to say. >> well, the president is considering all the options available right now, and we've made it clear to the russians do not attack the legitimate opposition. they have said that they understand that. what we're looking for is not a military victory. we're looking for the political resolution that we always look for in

with russia. >> russia has the wrong strategy. they hit targets that are not i.s.i.l. we believe this is a fundamental mistake. despite what the russians say, we have not great to cooperate. so long as they pursue mistaken strategy. a disappointment for vladimir putin, who hoped to persuade the u.s. against i.s.i.l. >> peter sharp, al jazeera. >> europe's staggering refugee crisis is due to be discussed. they'll consider plans to deport hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers from europe. more than 600,000 refugees arrived in europe, as people flee the conflict in syria. the journey may become harder. it imposed a fan to enforce the quotas. >> investing more than 100,000 euros on razor wire to keep people out >>> arriving in the croatian town, heading north, no one takes the route for granted, having sealed its boarder with serbia and a fence across the boarder with croatia complete, only the smallest window into hungary remains. >> a gap in the fence, 3 meters wide, croatia on one side, hungary ahead. through the gap, 4,000 a day

he says the country welcomes russia's intervention. >>> meanwhile russia continues its bombing campaigns it has hit isil targets inside syria. >>> investigators search for answers in the oregon shooting as we learn more details about what happened from survivors. >>> joaquin hits the bahamas. why the u.s. east coast isn't out of t

what is the threat for russia and why is russia getting involved in syria? some are concerned, well, is russia supporting assad in syria? is russia trying prove to the rest of the world that it is a big power that the foreign countries still have to consider while implementing a different decisions. well, russia has real concerns about terrorism and isis coming back to russia. a number of terrorists from the north caucuses have joined the syrian civil war since its start in 2011. some of these groups have declared that they are loyal to the caucuses emirate that was established in 2007 and the leadership of doku omar. however, some of these factions have joined isis and pledged ed allegiance to isis and are fight ng the name of isis. some of those mujahadin have declared they will be coming back to russia, striking against russia and some have already started coming back to russia and this is a growing concern for the russian government and security services. so, on the one hand, you see that there are realistic threats for russia in terms of isis and in ter

has refused to send military delegation to russia to discuss coordination on syria. we are live from moscow. did he say why? >> well, what the united states wants is to try and attract the -- what russia wants is try an attract the united states into its coalition in syria, its action, air campaign in syria. what we were told is that in september, russia made an offer to the united states and the offer was maybe the united states should send a delegation of military experts to moscow to talk about cooperation in syria and also that maybe russia should send the prime minister to washington, d.c. to talk about the same sort of things. now sergey lavrov announced earlier today when he was speaking that the americans have been thinking about this for a while and today they have rejected the proposal, rejected the offer. he had some other words, too. he said that essentially, this kind of behavior from the united states is part of its efforts to undermine what he and what the russian government believe are russia's efforts to provide a sort of anchor of global stability.

well not cooperate with russia. peter sharp reports. >> from the caspian sea, 1200 kilometers from the fighting, russia opened a second front. the caliber missiles, bearing the nato code name sizzler were launched without warning from russia's caspian sea flotilla. with a range of 2500 kilometers the missiles were within reach, russia said it received permission from iran and iraq to overfly its territory, avoiding southeastern turkey. sergei shoygu briefed of the campaign. >> 26 cruise missiles on 11 targets. all targets were destroyed and no civilians were harmed. >>> why russia would target missiles 12 loo miles away, when it's carrying out daily strikes on i.s.i.l. from the ground. it would go well to remind the west of its military reach. secretary of defense ash carter formally ruled out any strategy with russia. >> they continue to hit targets that are not i.s.i.l. we believe this is a fundamental mistake. despite what the russians say we have not agreed to cooperate with russia so long as they continue to pu