i was struck by one of the slides that you showed that said rutgers white oasis. and it made me think of public space. and i wonder what role did the community play? i know it's a similar question to the last one -- but what role did the community play, and what were their intentions because of the amount of public space that the university held in the neighborhood? in the newark neighborhood? >> absolutely. that's a great question and i think we see these things with columbia university and pretty much anytime an urban campus is built, because in order to create that space, they're essentially knocking down a lot of public housing, and homes of people that have been in the community for a long time, because, otherwise, you can't really create these sprawling grounds of buildings and residence halls. this is kind of something that's remarkable that i'm sorry i didn't have a chance to talk about in my short presentation. the students were really being mentored by the community activists in newark at the time and these were the same activists that were boycotting um

i was struck by one of the slides that you showed that -- that said rutgers white oasis, and it made me