. catherine willard is secretary general of european council on refugees and exiles in madrid. ruth guerrero is lecturer in political science and senior researcher at competence. the university of madrid in about less than had that is strategic affairs analysts and former moroccan minister, a warm welcome to you all, catherine. let me start with you today. so more than $8000.00 migrants arrived on the beaches. so you to, in just a couple of days, how does this sudden and very large rival compare to movements of migrants in the past few years. and has there ever in the past been an arrival at one time of this magnitude? with the same similar arrivals and in other parts of europe, and this is due to the record numbers of people who have possibly displaced. so globally, there are more refugees and the big before in the majority, both arriving in europe on refugees. there's also people who are close to me for other reasons. we were by the old countries in europe to respect to you and it's national law when faced with these, the rivals of people. and despite the dramatic things, the overall numbe