ruth johnson, michigan. one of the problems that we have right now is that the federal government required us at our dmv, which we do through the secretary of state's office, that we would ask everyone if they'd like to register to vote when they came in to get a driver's license or personal id. they did that, and we have thousands of noncitizens now registered to vote. my question is, how do we get them off? we've had social security, homeland security, i.c.e. and all refuse to help us, and they're the only ones that have that information. on a quick note, a man from indonesia voted because that is in indonesia the law. he didn't try to commit any malice. he just didn't know better, and he faces possible deportation, large legal bills, his business is a wreck because of it and it's impacted him negatively. so it helps everyone if we're able to take non-citizens off the voter rolls. >> you're in a unique situation in michigan, because that advance lawsuit in 2008 that clamped down on what you could n on what

ruth johnson, michigan. one of the problems that we have right now is that the federal government required the dmv to ask if everyone wants to vote if they come to get a driver's license, and now we have nonresidents to get them off the roles. and a man from indonesia because in his country that is his law, did he not know better and he pa faces possible deportation and and it's impacted him negatively. it helps everyone if we are able to take noncitizens au s off th rolls. >> i mean look, the secretary of state of colorado has looked at this issue with monday citizens, utah found noncitizens voting it's happening. it's reality. i have texas voter registration forms, there's forms in harris county that for a client of mine that that says are you a u.s. citizen and they checked no and were registered to vote. i mean, this is how bad it is. how do you untangle this web is a difficult question, the only tools are section eight in your policy decisions, i am convinced that noncitizens are voting in our elections

um, ruth johnson, michigan. one of the problems that we have right now is that the federal government required us at our dmv which we do through the secretary of state's office that we would ask everyone if they'd like to register to vote when they came in to get a driver's license or personal id. they did that, and we have thousands of noncitizens now registered to vote. my question is, how do we get them off? we've asked social security, homeland security, i.c.e., and all of them have refused to help us, and they're the only ones that have the information. and on a quick note, a man from indonesia voted because that is the law, and he didn't try to commit any malice, he just didn't know better, and he faces possible depor take, large legal bills, his business is a wreck because of it, and it's impacted him negatively. so it doesn't -- it helps everyone if we're able to take noncitizens off our voter rolls. >> you're in a unique situation in michigan because that lawsuit in 2008 against terry lynn land that sor