i want to turn this to ruth c. jones -- >> mr. payne, if i could, please. >> go ahead. >> to dovetail off the previous speaker, the main reason why it's dropping, in october of 2008, the sba no longer certified businesses as small, disadvantaged businesses. it becomes self certification, which means elizabeth warren up in massachusetts can now be an sdb and is wrought with fraud right now. but the showtime comes when these fronts come up there and get their sba lending money. they're not black. they're not hispanic. you know, they're native americans from 132nd parts of their blood. so that's the big problem. they need to shut the program down and recertify everybody all over again. >> thank you. >> it's corrupt. >> well, i got to tell you, that sounds like -- an answer a lot of government policies and government function out there. we probably could scrape the whole thing at the same time. and this is -- but, again, ruth jones, in your town, from what i read, your per capita income is significantly below the rest of the state. po

ruth jones, i'm going to say my mother's name is ruth. the main reason i'm coming back to you is we talked about some of the more depressing statistics in your -- you're the city manager at rivera beach. 70% african-american, huge poverty, yet there are some thriving black business there's. how are they doing it? how are they surviving? what are the lessons to be learned? >> the black businesses in riviera beach that are thriving is first of all they have been able to get the community to back them. the residents buy from them. the businesses in riviera beach buy from each other. and once you begin to start that kind of synergy, then you can get support for the businesses that are in existence and help them establish spin-off businesses. we're developing our marina. and one of the things that we determined as a government is that when it comes to putting new businesses on the boardwalk and the promenade, we're not going to go out and look for businesses that are nationwide that you got to have a certain income in order for them to come. w

what our responsibility is if we call ourselves quote-unquote black leaders. >> absolutely. >> ruth jonesi was going to say my mother's name is ruth, but the main reason i'm coming back to you is because we talked about some of the more depressing statistics, and, you know, you're city manager at riviera beach, 70% african-american, huge poverty, yet there are some thriving black businesses there. how are they doing and how are they surviving, what are the lessons to be learned? >> the black businesses in riviera beach that are thriving is, first of all, because they have been able to get the community to back them. the residents buy from them. the businesses in riviera beach buy from each other. and once you begin to start that kind of synergy, then you can give support for the businesses that are in existence and help them establish spin off businesses. we're developing our marina, and one of the things that we determined as a government is that when it comes to putting new businesses on the boardwalk and the promenade, we're not going to go out and look for businesses that are nationwi

and ruth jones is a city manager in one of the cities that i represent. and district 84 is kind of like one of those sprawling districts. it includes, like, rivera beach, west palm beach. if you go out to the western part of the district, it includes belle glade, poe hokie and south glade. hearing some of the unemployment is 6%, if i had that in my district, i would be jumping for joy. in bellglade, pohoki and south dade, the unemployment is 14%. i get to see it from a different perspective. when i go to tallahassee, there is a lot of rhetoric about what is right, what is left and everything. but me, what are we doing to create jobs, and how can i bring back jobs to my constituents. and so that's the reason why sid on the investment and banking an economic development so we can change that whole area. one of the things we're working in the district is we're bringing something called an inland port to the glades community where with the ex- -- with the widening of the panama canal, we're going to create an inland port would create 10,000 jobs out there. im

and so then that was the reason for sitting down and writing "gavin and stacy" with ruth jones who is wonderful actress and writer. we sat down and wrote the show. and completely out of the blue it became like the biggest comedy show in the country. and with that came like a level of interest and kind of opportunity. if you're the guy -- if you're the lad who was supposed to be the guy who drops off the tv to hugh grant and suddenly far more attractive women than should ever, ever have any interest in you starts to want to hang out with you. you're that guy. every time you go out, it's really intoxicating. and incredibly easy to get swept up in that. and i really did -- i mean, went for it. just got a bit lost really. i was single for the first time in my life. i was suddenly single and a little bit famous. and that's a bad mix, you know. >> the reason i want to talk about this, it puts into context the emotions you must have been feeling when you won the tony for best actor. you're sitting there with some the greatest actors ever. philip seymour hoffman. >> who is my fave actor in th