my name is ruth kennedy and i'm calling from nashville, tennessee. i was on the phone with my daughter and she screamed and said, "oh no" and the phone's gone dead. and is there anything you can do? can you go check? >> reporter: "oh no." those two words played back, again and again, in ruth's worried brain. and so began a mystery. and a story too unbelievable even for some of its most intimate participants. what happened to carol kennedy? >> the answer to that question would take years to answer. not just what happened to carol, but who was behind it? >> we were just stunned. "flight of the bumblebee?" ♪ no, you goof. i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with geico. nice. i know, right? ♪ [nose plays a jazzy saxophone tune] believe it. geico could save you 15% or more on car insurance. have a skincare routine. but what about a lip care routine? pay your lips some attention. the chapstick total hydration collection. exfoliate nourish naturally enhance your lips. chapstick. put your lips first. i am a techie

. >> host: a quote from kennedy who became ruth jefferson's lawyer. i had wanted to live like ruth did just for an afternoon. >> guest: i get asked a lot, that rocked my world. i live my life differently. and this is not predominant color in a room and most people haven't had that experience, a little on edge, that is okay. that means you are learning something if you feel that uneasy to be antiracist. another good thing is to learn the difference between equal and equitable. equal means the same, equitable means fair. if you had a student, you would give her a braille test, the same information on it and figure out in life it was systemic and institutional racism people are starting at different points. we have to make sure in whatever line of work we are in that everyone has a fair chance to get to the finish line. that is what equitable means. things like that, talking to people around you. the role of the white ally is to talk to people who look like us and be aware of the fact that you have privileges that families of color are not going to have.

kennedy. i wanted to live like ruth did just for intern on this afternoon not to be in danger. >> what i get asked a lot. >> this really rocked my world and we needed to do that in one of the things i talked about to put yourself in a situation it is not the predominant color in the room to putt' them on edge that means you are learning something. if you want to be actively antiracist another thing is to learn the difference of equal and equitable equal means the same and equitable means fair. if you have a student in your class as a teacher if you wind where do give the same test if she was blind? of course, not so that's what i mean so they are starting at different points we have to make sure everyone has a fair chance to get to the finish line. talking to people around you for people who look like us to be aware you have privileges that families of color will not have. how do you take advantage of that privilege? if you are a mom with a second grader go to your child's school and say what you teachingng about african-american history? slavery? inventors? role models? even better if you are a w

filibuster corsets or anthony kennedy wait until there was a republican president, white tried to destroy brett cavanagh to keep him from taking the court? why doesn't ruthsburg resignedly trump replacer? a preposterous idea there's no difference between obama judges and trump judges? most voters a lot of voters voted in this election specifically because they wanted to make sure there were trump judges and not obama judges. the chief justice should stick to running the supreme court and not get in fights with the president. >> justice roberts was appointed by president bush in 2005. rob: a massive anti-terror operation underway in london after two suspected bombs are found hidden in an apartment, people living in surrounding homes forced to evacuate as investigators search the building that is under renovation. police say the bombs appeared to be improvised explosive devices, no arrests have been made. rob: a new report showing iran plans to build 5 nuclear weapons according to the nuclear watchdog group the institute for science and international society. it was much farther along in building an arsenal in 2003 than previously thought. critics of the w

kennedy wait until there was a republican president to resign? why did they try to destroy brett kavanaugh to keep them from taking the court, and why doesn't ruthgned and left trump to replace her? it's a preposterous idea that there is no difference between obama judges and trump judges. most voters voted in the selection specifically because they wanted to make sure there were trump judges and not obama judges. the chief justice should stick to running the supreme court and not get into fights with the president. >> bret: chuck, what about that? is this a fight he should not have gotten into? >> i think it was a fight he felt he had to get into and he has been trying to stay out of for several years, ever since president trump, going back to the time he was a candidate, has been vilifying chief justice roberts, first for obamacare, than for other things. look, of course it's true that there are ideological and partisan differences among the judges. that is been true since thomas jefferson and john marshall. but it is important for political leaders to respect the good faith of judges and not reduce what they say to partisanship over the presi

presley, babe ruth, antonin scalia, roger staubach whampt do you make of this list, some of whom are still actually with us? >> well, i mean, look, let's be honest. when president kennedyidential medal of freedom in 1963, i mean, it was sort of this neat thing that he did to basically hang out, if you will, with the movie stars and famous people and famous musicians and that's fine. i get it. every president since then has awarded this medal to famous people, some not so famous people, some hidden figures as we know, and in the end it's used as a political tool, if you will, to say thank you for your service to your country. now the question then is is this miriam adelson other than giving hundreds of millions of dollars and being a good emergency room doctor, i'm not sure what else she's done? but you know what, it's his right just like it was barack obama's right to give it to billy jean king and others. are we at a point where we're crossing over into rewarding our financial donors strerss rewarding people from doing something that they're good at. >> it's also probably harder for donald trump to get really big celebrities to come to the white house. i think we've s